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Cummings
Corhen
Kante

That’s all I got. Family loyalty for Cummings regardless of coach.

Twins should transfer. JDG may not be ACC defense but he deserves more than a bench when shooting 60 percent from 3.

Lowe to NBA
Austin/ish/dunn out of eligibility
Amsal/barnes, other big transfer
 
Lowe won't be NBA next year. Possibly portal to get some money.

We'll be extremely thin next year with little experience, players transferring, and few quality incoming freshmen who can start. We'll have to rely on the portal again to get some experienced talent.
 
Lowe won't be NBA next year. Possibly portal to get some money.

We'll be extremely thin next year with little experience, players transferring, and few quality incoming freshmen who can start. We'll have to rely on the portal again to get some experienced talent.
Lowe and Corhen will either both stay or both leave, probably for the same place since they are close
 
Lowe won't be NBA next year. Possibly portal to get some money.

We'll be extremely thin next year with little experience, players transferring, and few quality incoming freshmen who can start. We'll have to rely on the portal again to get some experienced talent.

Lowe isnt going to declare. Too much money to leave on the table when he could wind up in the G-league. He can get 7 figures in the SEC and that's where I think he goes.
 
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Too early to know, of course, but next year could be a considerable step back for us given the graduating players and possible loss of Lowe.
 
Cummings
Corhen
Kante

That’s all I got. Family loyalty for Cummings regardless of coach.

Twins should transfer. JDG may not be ACC defense but he deserves more than a bench when shooting 60 percent from 3.

Lowe to NBA
Austin/ish/dunn out of eligibility
Amsal/barnes, other big transfer
No way Lowe is going to the NBA. I think the twins will be back as well
 
Step back? We’ve made 1 tourney is 7 years

So we’re going to go from bubble to non competitive? Whatever… the frustrating part is being so close…. But so far away.

And feeling robbed last year. Tough to say, but could a NCAAT and say sweet 16 given us a bump with portal guys and donors this season? You bet. And that opportunity was taken from us by Lunardi and ESPN
 
Right, no way is Lowe nba material,
Its blue and gold glasses thst cause. They said the same thing about x (given lowe is a bit better). Lowe is no 1st rounder. Maybe a 2 way guy. There are guards just like him all over country.
 
Its blue and gold glasses thst cause. They said the same thing about x (given lowe is a bit better). Lowe is no 1st rounder. Maybe a 2 way guy. There are guards just like him all over country.
Did any mocks have XJ getting drafted? The difference is there are legit mocks for Lowe:



And there are some without him. It’s more Pitt fans think less highly of him and dont watch the NBA. I think he at least declares. He would be smart to do so and get his evaluation. Then it’s up to him to portal, have Pitt pony up to match, or stay in draft.
 
Did any mocks have XJ getting drafted? The difference is there are legit mocks for Lowe:



And there are some without him. It’s more Pitt fans think less highly of him and dont watch the NBA. I think he at least declares. He would be smart to do so and get his evaluation. Then it’s up to him to portal, have Pitt pony up to match, or stay in draft.

Lowe would get drafted. But I dont think 1st Round is guaranteed like it was for Bub. His true shooting percentage will scare teams. You really shouldnt declare unless you are a sure 1st Rounder because the money you cam make in college basketball is FAR FAR more than G-league money.
 
Cummings
Corhen
Kante

That’s all I got. Family loyalty for Cummings regardless of coach.

Twins should transfer. JDG may not be ACC defense but he deserves more than a bench when shooting 60 percent from 3.

Lowe to NBA
Austin/ish/dunn out of eligibility
Amsal/barnes, other big transfer
I posted on the pay board I think only Kante and Cummings are back next season. We're basically gonna have to rebuild and start over in year 8 of Jeff Capel smh. It's pathetic. I don't think Corhen comes back either.

I see this season ending up a failure and a massive disappointment, the twins both want out along with Lowe and Corhen and Delalic. So it's Papa and Cummings and lots of portal kids. Utterly depressing.
 
Did any mocks have XJ getting drafted? The difference is there are legit mocks for Lowe:



And there are some without him. It’s more Pitt fans think less highly of him and dont watch the NBA. I think he at least declares. He would be smart to do so and get his evaluation. Then it’s up to him to portal, have Pitt pony up to match, or stay in draft.
.... dont.be naive i was refferring to when x was here. It was a HUGE fear he would declare and leave all over this board, not now of course. If you were around then you will remember that.
Lowe will be a nice 2 way contract guy not a first rounder. Bub has the build lowe does not.
 
.... dont.be naive i was refferring to when x was here. It was a HUGE fear he would declare and leave all over this board, not now of course. If you were around then you will remember that.
Lowe will be a nice 2 way contract guy not a first rounder. Bub has the build lowe does not.
He was never mocked consistently as high as Lowe. Not the same.
 
Cummings
Corhen
Kante

That’s all I got. Family loyalty for Cummings regardless of coach.

Twins should transfer. JDG may not be ACC defense but he deserves more than a bench when shooting 60 percent from 3.

Lowe to NBA
Austin/ish/dunn out of eligibility
Amsal/barnes, other big transfer
At this point, Lowe is the worst guard on a middle of the pack team in a piss poor conference. Please change NBA to YMCA.
 
It’s more Pitt fans think less highly of him and dont watch the NBA.


There are Pitt fans that just last year said that Bub Carrington would be an idiot to declare for the draft, because he would never get picked in the first round and he might not get drafted at all.

Some of those same people thought that the idea of Stephen Adams being a lottery pick was completely absurd and thought that he should come back to Pitt to try to improve his draft stock.

Part of it is because lots of Pitt fans don't really pay any attention to the NBA. And part of it is because fans tend to get too high on their players when things are going well, and too low on them when things aren't. It's too hard for them to maintain objectivity.
 
There are Pitt fans that just last year said that Bub Carrington would be an idiot to declare for the draft, because he would never get picked in the first round and he might not get drafted at all.

Some of those same people thought that the idea of Stephen Adams being a lottery pick was completely absurd and thought that he should come back to Pitt to try to improve his draft stock.

Part of it is because lots of Pitt fans don't really pay any attention to the NBA. And part of it is because fans tend to get too high on their players when things are going well, and too low on them when things aren't. It's too hard for them to maintain objectivity.

Its a different world now. College money is exponentially more than G-league money. Bub was a guaranteed 1st Rounder. Adams was a 7'0 freshman who probably didnt like playing basketball for $0. Lowe is guaranteed 7 figures next year to play college basketball somewhere. That's too much to leave on the table for the chance of making an NBA team. He isnt having a good statistical season so going in the 1st Round seems far-fetched right now though he can turn things around. A lot of guys in his position take the guaranteed college money. In a worst-case scenario, some of these guys end up making $40,500 in the G-league instead of 500K, $1 million, $2 million in college basketball. You better be ABSOLUTELY sure you are going in the 1st Round. The college money is too good.
 
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There are Pitt fans that just last year said that Bub Carrington would be an idiot to declare for the draft, because he would never get picked in the first round and he might not get drafted at all.

Some of those same people thought that the idea of Stephen Adams being a lottery pick was completely absurd and thought that he should come back to Pitt to try to improve his draft stock.

Part of it is because lots of Pitt fans don't really pay any attention to the NBA. And part of it is because fans tend to get too high on their players when things are going well, and too low on them when things aren't. It's too hard for them to maintain objectivity.
Lowe would probably fit right in an be a key component to a 15 win type of organization like the Wizards.
 
I posted on the pay board I think only Kante and Cummings are back next season. We're basically gonna have to rebuild and start over in year 8 of Jeff Capel smh. It's pathetic. I don't think Corhen comes back either.

I see this season ending up a failure and a massive disappointment, the twins both want out along with Lowe and Corhen and Delalic. So it's Papa and Cummings and lots of portal kids. Utterly depressing.
Hey, don't forget Omari Witherspoon! But yeah, that would be a disaster. Isn't the NIL/portal era awesome?
 
I posted on the pay board I think only Kante and Cummings are back next season. We're basically gonna have to rebuild and start over in year 8 of Jeff Capel smh. It's pathetic. I don't think Corhen comes back either.

I see this season ending up a failure and a massive disappointment, the twins both want out along with Lowe and Corhen and Delalic. So it's Papa and Cummings and lots of portal kids. Utterly depressing.

This is almost every team. I dont disagree with what you are saying. I do think we only return a few guys even if we end up having a good season but that's every team. WVU and Lou combined to return 0 players and both are NCAAT locks. And in WVU's case, they have maybe the lowest player payrolls in the P4.

Sometimes its a good thing to have a complete roster turnover.
 
Its a different world now. College money is exponentially more than G-league money. Bub was a guaranteed 1st Rounder. Adams was a 7'0 freshman who probably didnt like playing basketball for $0. Lowe is guaranteed 7 figures next year to play college basketball somewhere. That's too much to leave on the table for the chance of making an NBA team. He isnt having a good statistical season so going in the 1st Round seems far-fetched right now though he can turn things around. A lot of guys in his position take the guaranteed college money. In a worst-case scenario, some of these guys end up making $40,500 in the G-league instead of 500K, $1 million, $2 million in college basketball. You better be ABSOLUTELY sure you are going in the 1st Round. The college money is too good.
If Lowe could figure out that the NBA is going to grade Jaland based on his overall efficiency numbers, not how many points he averages, he would really have a chance to make things better. Hero ball has hurt this team badly. He just needs to get himself under control, get all the guys involved, and let the game come to him instead of forcing it. The talent is there to be a 1st rounder, but the body and the head are just not there yet. Capel needs to get through to him fast or wherever he plays next year will surely not be here.
 
I think Lowe will be back based on his relationship with Capel. The twins will be back as well as Kante and Cummings. I’m guessing everyone but the guys who no longer have eligibility (zach and ish) will be back.

I think the twins will continue to develop and be significant contributors next year
 
I think Lowe will be back based on his relationship with Capel. The twins will be back as well as Kante and Cummings. I’m guessing everyone but the guys who no longer have eligibility (zach and ish) will be back.

I think the twins will continue to develop and be significant contributors next year
Lowe is gone. Twins are gone. Delalic is gone.
 
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Lowe is gone. Twins are gone. Delalic is gone.
Why you laughing? I also said they were gonna get blown out at Duke, lose to Louisville, FSU and Clemson and even bet someone on the pay board that would happen. Unfortunately it did.

I'm sure if I posted that here you would have laughed at that too.
 
This is almost every team. I dont disagree with what you are saying. I do think we only return a few guys even if we end up having a good season but that's every team. WVU and Lou combined to return 0 players and both are NCAAT locks. And in WVU's case, they have maybe the lowest player payrolls in the P4.

Sometimes its a good thing to have a complete roster turnover.
Except it will take capel 3/4's of a season to figure out how to use a new roster. Wvu and lou have coaches that can figure it out right away.
Capel is an average coach. Decent recruiter but an average coach.
 
Except it will take capel 3/4's of a season to figure out how to use a new roster. Wvu and lou have coaches that can figure it out right away.
Capel is an average coach. Decent recruiter but an average coach.

In 7 seasons, he has yet to get us past what amounts to the first weekend of the NCAAT. He's had 4 total NCAAT appearances as a head coach, one with Pitt. In 7 seasons. That's not good.
 
In 7 seasons, he has yet to get us past what amounts to the first weekend of the NCAAT. He's had 4 total NCAAT appearances as a head coach, one with Pitt. In 7 seasons. That's not good.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion on whether he is a good coach or not but using "7 seasons" as part of your evidence is not fair. He took over 0-19 before free agency. Even the most optimistic expectations would have had him in the NCAAT by Year 3. So, the first 2 years, you can't really count. It's really 1 NCAAT in 5 years after a 2 year rebuilding period. And the 1 in 5 is also misleading because we absolutely should have made it last year but didn't due to what was probably the strongest bubble ever and the misfortune of WVU and Mizzou being historically bad.
 
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I posted on the pay board I think only Kante and Cummings are back next season. We're basically gonna have to rebuild and start over in year 8 of Jeff Capel smh. It's pathetic. I don't think Corhen comes back either.

I see this season ending up a failure and a massive disappointment, the twins both want out along with Lowe and Corhen and Delalic. So it's Papa and Cummings and lots of portal kids. Utterly depressing.
Mr. Doom speaketh. Value ZERO.
 
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Everyone is entitled to their opinion on whether he is a good coach or not but using "7 seasons" as part of your evidence is not fair. He took over 0-19 before free agency. Even the most optimistic expectations would have had him in the NCAAT by Year 3. So, the first 2 years, you can't really count. It's really 1 NCAAT in 5 years after a 2 year rebuilding period. And the 1 in 5 is also misleading because we absolutely should have made it last year but didn't due to what was probably the strongest bubble ever and the misfortune of WVU and Mizzou being historically bad.

I stand by my opinion and what I said. Capel is paid millions every year to get results. Results means top 25 rankings and NCAAT appearances. He hasn't met expectations with those results. Facts are facts, no excuses.
 
Everyone is entitled to their opinion on whether he is a good coach or not but using "7 seasons" as part of your evidence is not fair. He took over 0-19 before free agency. Even the most optimistic expectations would have had him in the NCAAT by Year 3. So, the first 2 years, you can't really count. It's really 1 NCAAT in 5 years after a 2 year rebuilding period. And the 1 in 5 is also misleading because we absolutely should have made it last year but didn't due to what was probably the strongest bubble ever and the misfortune of WVU and Mizzou being historically bad.
Spin it any way you like. Surprised you didn’t include Covid as another excuse. He’s 1 for 7.

And not for nothing, even if we go with 1 for 5 it still sucks.
 
Spin it any way you like. Surprised you didn’t include Covid as another excuse. He’s 1 for 7.

And not for nothing, even if we go with 1 for 5 it still sucks.


He is 1 for 7. Just saying it completely unfair to count the 1st 2 as we were coming off the Death Penalty without the luxury of free agency. So is 1 for 5, robbed from being 2 for 5 good enough?
 
He is 1 for 7. Just saying it completely unfair to count the 1st 2 as we were coming off the Death Penalty without the luxury of free agency. So is 1 for 5, robbed from being 2 for 5 good enough?
Well we’ll have to agree to disagree that they were robbed.

I think his overall body of work is sub par no matter how it’s looked at. He truly seems like a good dude. The kind of guy I’d want my kids around. But as the leader of a hoops program, he isn’t cutting it. And maybe nobody will given the new landscape, who knows.
 
Well we’ll have to agree to disagree that they were robbed.

I think his overall body of work is sub par no matter how it’s looked at. He truly seems like a good dude. The kind of guy I’d want my kids around. But as the leader of a hoops program, he isn’t cutting it. And maybe nobody will given the new landscape, who knows.

If you give him a 2 year grace period coming off the Death Penalty and he makes the NCAAT this season, that would be 2 for 6 and should have been 3 for 6. Dixon was 3 for 5 in his last 5. Capel 2 = Dixon 2. Dixon 2 was good enough.
 
If you give him a 2 year grace period coming off the Death Penalty and he makes the NCAAT this season, that would be 2 for 6 and should have been 3 for 6. Dixon was 3 for 5 in his last 5. Capel 2 = Dixon 2. Dixon 2 was good enough.
It wasnt that is why jamie was released to go to tcu
 
If you give him a 2 year grace period coming off the Death Penalty and he makes the NCAAT this season, that would be 2 for 6 and should have been 3 for 6. Dixon was 3 for 5 in his last 5. Capel 2 = Dixon 2. Dixon 2 was good enough.
If you’re gonna use Dixon….

For who? Some maybe. But plenty were still calling for his head. Dixon’s tourney body of work wasn’t anything special (stating the obvious) so you’re also lowering the bar to just getting in.
 
We really don't need to rehash the Dixon tenure, but, clearly he was lost at the end. That last recruiting class of Kithcart, Manigualt, and Clark was as bad as any class from 1970 on. The program was sinking fast. Capel has gotten better talent but, but he fails to get the best out of his guys. It would be nice to get the best of both worlds but that doesn't happen here at Pitt. If we could couple Capel's recruiting with Dixon's coaching ability we might have something. I would have loved to see what Dixon could do with last year's or even this year's team.

Anyway, I haven't thrown in the towel on this year's team yet. Clearly, if we hope to finish strong, Capel is going to have to show he can get these guys to defend hard and get them to run an offense where there is motion and not strictly dribble drive. Show me there is more to your coaching abilities than just rolling out the ball. Draw up some plays to free shooters.
 
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