No more "1 win rule" for ACC bowl games

[Sean Miller Fan]

It had been rumored that the ACC got rid of this rule, especially since the Belk Bowl badly wanted 6-6 VT in Beamer's last game last year and was furious they couldn't take them because Pitt was still on the table at 8-4 since the Pinstripe took 7-5 Duke over them.

The ACC Championship game fact sheet which you can google is very clear that the league o longer adheres to the "rigidity" of the one win rule. It now only applies to ND.

This is bad news for northern teams with smaller alumni bases like Pitt, Syr, and BC. These teams have fewer fans and require longer travel for those fans to get to bowl games, which are predominantly in the south.

What this means is you better hope UNC comes back and beats NC State today because I'm telling you that at 6-6, they are going to be more attractive to most ACC bowls than 8-4 Pitt. They are going to sell more tickets than Pitt would in places like Charlotte, Jacksonville, Nashville, and El Paso (where neither school would sell many but NCSU probably sells 300-500 more).

 

[CaptainMurphy]

I would have agreed that theory before this year but we travelled well for last years bowl game and we tout one of the more exciting offenses in the country. NC St has proximity to most of the bowls but does their fanbase get excited after a 6-6 season, if they end up winning today?

 

[PittMan 72]

I would have agreed that theory before this year but we travelled well for last years bowl game and we tout one of the more exciting offenses in the country. NC St has proximity to most of the bowls but does their fanbase get excited after a 6-6 season, if they end up winning today?

Well, regardless, instead of SWAG's like the OP's opinion, there's this from a MUCH more credible source:

 

[Las Panteras]

I'm curious what criterion you used in your conclusion that NC State will sell 300 to500 more tickets to a crap bowl game in el paso?

 

[9nationalchampionships]

I am an alum and believe we have over 300,000 alums. Not small comparatively speaking.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

I'm curious what criterion you used in your conclusion that NC State will sell 300 to500 more tickets to a crap bowl game in el paso?

He made it up.

 

[PittMan 72]

I'm curious what criterion you used in your conclusion that NC State will sell 300 to500 more tickets to a crap bowl game in el paso?

LOL!!!

He made it up.

Exactly.

 

[ThePanthers]

Rumored if NC state wins they are going to independence bowl. Smf worrying about little shit again.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Well, regardless, instead of SWAG's like the OP's opinion, there's this from a MUCH more credible source:

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Great news if true.

I will never believe Pitt would be selected over any bowl eligible team besides Wake and BC after the Pinstripe passed over us for freaking Duke.

I do think that if a bowl game wanted 6-6 NCSU over 8-4 Pitt, they would have to run it through the ACC and the ACC would probably try to talk them out of it but at the end of the day, if a bowl wants a team, they will get their team.

If this rule was in place last year, VT at 6-6 absolutely would have went to the Belk instead of an 8-4 Pitt team that beat them.

 

[PittMan 72]

Rumored if NC state wins they are going to independence bowl. Smf worrying about little shit again.

There is an "everything is gloom and doom for Pitt" schtick that permeates virtually all of the OP's content. Many (if not most) are aware of that. But just mentioning it again in case there are still some that heven't been paying attention for the last 20,000+ posts the OP has made.

 

[CaptainMurphy]

I'm curious what criterion you used in your conclusion that NC State will sell 300 to500 more tickets to a crap bowl game in el paso?

Lol, that is one hell of a precise estimate.

From all of the predictions I've heard, I'm hoping for Russell Athletic vs WVU or Gator vs Georgia. Gator seems like a bit of a reach but it seems to be what Georgia fans are predicting.

 

[ThePanthers]

Just win tomorrow and we'll be going to a good bowl game. I'm not sweating it

 

[TIGER-PAUL]

6-6 can't go to a tier one if an 8-4 still avail. That's the current rule the bowls/ACC agreed to.

 

[Gary77]

There is an "everything is gloom and doom for Pitt" schtick that permeates virtually all of the OP's content. Many (if not most) are aware of that. But just mentioning it again in case there are still some that heven't been paying attention for the last 20,000+ posts the OP has made.

I believe SMF is a closet Hoopie, or maybe a nitter. Regardless, he's clearly not a Pitt fan. 99% of his posts are intended to throw cold water on anything positive concerning Pitt.

 

[HunkyPanther]

I believe SMF is a closet Hoopie, or maybe a nitter. Regardless, he's clearly not a Pitt fan. 99% of his posts are intended to throw cold water on anything positive concerning Pitt.

Agreed...Pitt has the 3rd or 4th largest enrollment in the ACC, but why let fact get in the way of your narrative. SMF is not a Pitt fan, don't understand why he is even been allowed on this board as long as he is.

Alumni base of "southern schools" is laughable at best. You mean UNC, Duke,WF, Miami and Clemson?

 

[ENG80]

Agreed...Pitt has the 3rd or 4th largest enrollment in the ACC, but why let fact get in the way of your narrative. SMF is not a Pitt fan, don't understand why he is even been allowed on this board as long as he is.

Alumni base of "southern schools" is laughable at best. You mean UNC, Duke,WF, Miami and Clemson?

Barnes has been quoted as stating that Pitt has the largest living alumni base in the ACC.

 

[HunkyPanther]

Barnes has been quoted as stating that Pitt has the largest living alumni base in the ACC.

Sean Miller Fannis a fraud! Just checked the ACC website, Pitt has the second largest enrollment behind Florida State so easily can have the largest alumni base as schools like Florida State didn't start growing til the 80s. He is too lazy to even look up facts and just wants to spew garbage and hopefully it will stick.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Sean Miller Fannis a fraud! Just checked the ACC website, Pitt has the second largest enrollment behind Florida State so easily can have the largest alumni base as schools like Florida State didn't start growing til the 80s. He is too lazy to even look up facts and just wants to spew garbage and hopefully it will stick.

I said "fans" not alumni. Pitt is a school in a pro sports city whose alums are Steelers and Penguins fans before more so than Pitt fans. You know this.

And to Tiger Paul:

Read the 2016 ACC Football Championship game fact sheet. It explicitly states that the 1 win rule no longer applies. Here's what it says:

"The ACC's bowl selection will no longer be bound by the rigidity of a "one win rule" but will have a general list of criteria to emphasize regionality and quality matchups on the field."

NC State getting bowl eligible is not good for Pitt. A northeast bowl game took 7-5 Duke with no fans over an 8-4 team that beat them at their place. It is very very possible that these bowl games select 6-6 NC State, a school with a decent traveling fanbase over an 8-4 Pitt team. I won't believe NC State is going to a Tier 2 bowl until its official. Number of tickets sold is the PRIMARY concern for these games and if they feel NC State will sell more tickets, they will be the pick. TV ratings is a much lower concern mostly because its very hard to predict which teams are going to cause a few hundred thousand more people to tune in.

 

[HunkyPanther]

I said "fans" not alumni. Pitt is a school in a pro sports city whose alums are Steelers and Penguins fans before more so than Pitt fans. You know this.

And to Tiger Paul:

Read the 2016 ACC Football Championship game fact sheet. It explicitly states that the 1 win rule no longer applies. Here's what it says:

"The ACC's bowl selection will no longer be bound by the rigidity of a "one win rule" but will have a general list of criteria to emphasize regionality and quality matchups on the field."

NC State getting bowl eligible is not good for Pitt. A northeast bowl game took 7-5 Duke with no fans over an 8-4 team that beat them at their place. It is very very possible that these bowl games select 6-6 NC State, a school with a decent traveling fanbase over an 8-4 Pitt team. I won't believe NC State is going to a Tier 2 bowl until its official. Number of tickets sold is the PRIMARY concern for these games and if they feel NC State will sell more tickets, they will be the pick. TV ratings is a much lower concern mostly because its very hard to predict which teams are going to cause a few hundred thousand more people to tune in.

Read your post AGAIN, you said "alumni base"!

 

[ThePanthers]

Oh no. pitt to toilet bowl because of NC state!

 

[TIGER-PAUL]

I think the only way it happens smf is if there are not enough 8-4 and then 7-5 teams left to fill the 4 tier one bowls. It would then open the tier up to 6-6 teams. Otherwise 6-6 not eligible for tier one. I think Teal or someone said that last year regarding va tech. But, agree, anything possible I guess.

 

[Jpripper88]

I believe SMF is a closet Hoopie, or maybe a nitter. Regardless, he's clearly not a Pitt fan. 99% of his posts are intended to throw cold water on anything positive concerning Pitt.

No.

 

[York Panthers]

It seems to me people who think Pitt fans don't travel never go to road games. I go to numerous road games and usually see a good number of Pitt fans there.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

It seems to me people who think Pitt fans don't travel never go to road games. I go to numerous road games and usually see a good number of Pitt fans there.

Pitt has had absolutely hideous bowl traveling opportunities.

Tons of December 26 games, 3 mid-January Birmingham games. And the only really good seasons we had:

- we get a bid to the Fiesta Bowl and fire our coach

- we go 9-3 and get shipped to El Paso, an impossible place to get to

- we lose 2 Big East Championship games at home and the fanbase is too demoralized to travel to our consolation bowl game in Charlotte, one of them an afternoon game on Dec. 26.

I don't think Pitt is a good traveling fanbase but I don't think we are as bad as we've shown and I think that's mostly due to Dec. 26 games, Birmingham and some other bad circumstances.