Remember this class act. Remember this "Soldier"
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/kellen-winslow-jr-convicted-rape-homeless-woman-life-prison
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Remember this class act. Remember this "Soldier"
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/kellen-winslow-jr-convicted-rape-homeless-woman-life-prison
To be fair to the U, this ***hole would have been a POS no matter where he went to school.Remember this class act. Remember this "Soldier"
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/kellen-winslow-jr-convicted-rape-homeless-woman-life-prison
Yeah, not fair to put in on the university for a criminals actions. Not to mention he went there over a decade ago.To be fair to the U, this ***hole would have been a POS no matter where he went to school.
And none of them went there. True U alums are great people, its a very good schoolFrom my experience, Miami fans are the worst in the ACC. Completely disrespectful, and incredibly arrogant.
Ordinarily I'd agree with you, there's way too much of that kind of nonsense on this board--"this scumbag went to school X, so school X is a scumbag school"--but The U was a scumbag, renegade program that actively sought scumbag players throughout its glory years. That is a proven fact and the stain from those days is still on the institution.Yeah, not fair to put in on the university for a criminals actions. Not to mention he went there over a decade ago.
And none of them went there. True U alums are great people, its a very good school
Probably because ESPN itself rode the coattails of Miami during the 80s and wholly encouraged all the deviant behavior because it got attention and ratings.I hate those ESPN "30 for 30" pieces that were done on those Miami teams. Instead of taking an objective, unbiased look at what was happening in Miami in those days, those were nothing but "fan boy" adulation - very unlike other "30 for 30"'s that ESPN did before or after.
It was like the Fab Five 30/30. Focused on the quaint narrative of a group of supremely talented freshmen introducing the fashion trend of baggy shorts and bringing urban hip hop culture to a historically stodgy institution. Conveniently ignored the hundreds of thousands of dollars in soft money payments that went to the players, their families and handlers to get them all there in the first place, the way they alienated and mistreated the older players on the team that were there before them, the way they were coddled and allowed to run their own show by their sanctimonious a$$hole coach, Steve Fisher, the way Fisher had to hire Jalen Rose's high school coach as part of the package, the way the cops had to pull Rose out of drug houses in Detroit while he was at Michigan, the way Webber was crying about how college athletes should be paid because the schools make so much money off of them, while at the same time taking hundreds of thousands in handouts from Ed Martin, etc. etc. etc.I hate those ESPN "30 for 30" pieces that were done on those Miami teams. Instead of taking an objective, unbiased look at what was happening in Miami in those days, those were nothing but "fan boy" adulation - very unlike other "30 for 30"'s that ESPN did before or after.
You're a liar if you're saying you wouldnt trade those Miami dynasty years along with those players rather than what we did during the 80's and 90's.Ordinarily I'd agree with you, there's way too much of that kind of nonsense on this board--"this scumbag went to school X, so school X is a scumbag school"--but The U was a scumbag, renegade program that actively sought scumbag players throughout its glory years. That is a proven fact and the stain from those days is still on the institution.
Because rape isn’t about sexThis kind of stuff is just baffling. As a pro athlete, these guys can get all the consensual sex they want. But to resort to raping elderly and homeless women, this guy is just sick.
i never said that........You're a liar if you're saying you wouldnt trade those Miami dynasty years along with those players rather than what we did during the 80's and 90's.
He grew up privileged and coddled by his famous daddy who wouldn't let Junior sign with Washington (where he really wanted to go) out of H.S. because there weren't enough African-American coaches on Neuheisel's staff. He has a long history of trouble and erratic, sometimes violent behavior. Pretty obvious combination of being an entitled, arrogant, immature, stupid a$$hole with a daddy who enabled him, and good old fashioned mental illness.
Ordinarily I'd agree with you, there's way too much of that kind of nonsense on this board--"this scumbag went to school X, so school X is a scumbag school"--but The U was a scumbag, renegade program that actively sought scumbag players throughout its glory years. That is a proven fact and the stain from those days is still on the institution.
From my experience, Miami fans are the worst in the ACC. Completely disrespectful, and incredibly arrogant.
http://assets.espn.go.com/ncf/s/2001/0501/1189879.htmlI think it was because Neuheisel was a scab during the strike.
Senior wanted his son to play for a black coach, but that wasn't the reason why he didn't let his son go to UW. He didn't want his son playing for a replacement player during the strike.
all these 30 30 shows have turned into fanboy documentaries. the first few started out good then went downhill.I hate those ESPN "30 for 30" pieces that were done on those Miami teams. Instead of taking an objective, unbiased look at what was happening in Miami in those days, those were nothing but "fan boy" adulation - very unlike other "30 for 30"'s that ESPN did before or after.
had pitt stuck with sherrill or even Jimmy Johnson in '78, we could have been that renegade but successful program in the 80's. we had the foundation laid, coaching staff with zero morals, rich alumni willing to cheat but dagnabit if we don't let little things like education get in the way of a potentially good thing..You're a liar if you're saying you wouldnt trade those Miami dynasty years along with those players rather than what we did during the 80's and 90's.
had pitt stuck with sherrill or even Jimmy Johnson in '78, we could have been that renegade but successful program in the 80's. we had the foundation laid, coaching staff with zero morals, rich alumni willing to cheat but dagnabit if we don't let little things like education get in the way of a potentially good thing..
its really a hypothetical more than anythinghad pitt stuck with sherrill or even Jimmy Johnson in '78, we could have been that renegade but successful program in the 80's. we had the foundation laid, coaching staff with zero morals, rich alumni willing to cheat but dagnabit if we don't let little things like education get in the way of a potentially good thing..