notre dame cheating
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The reversal was probably the correct call. Not calling PI on the ND defender was the officiating sin on that one.
Seriously did fords ball ever hit the ground??? They have showed it frame by frame on the scoreboard and the ball moved slightly in his arms but didn't seem to ever hit the ground. And he had control of the ball
Fantastic throw!! Peterman is playing well
Fantastic throw!! Peterman is playing well
ND runs college football, if you watch their games then you'll see how they dictate officiating. They should be forced to join a conference or not allowed to make a playoff game.
You have proven time and time again that you have no idea what you're watching in these games. The ball rolled when Ford hit the ground. That was pretty clear from every angle. That's an incompletion. Now If you wanted to bitch about the no-call on the mugging Ford took on that play before the ball hit his hands, you'd be on to something.
All that aside, we are getting our asses handed to us by ND in every way possible, the officiating is the absolute least of our problems.
Well, all-in-all, it was a bad call no matter what. But, we threw the pick in the end zone that series, so all it may have done was deflate the momentum.
It would be nice to have a game where we get some calls, or I should say more calls than the opposition. I know it will never happen against ND, but we were home. We should eventually just be shear luck, have a game where the bounces and calls go our way.
It would be nice to have a game where we get some calls, or I should say more calls than the opposition. I know it will never happen against ND, but we were home. We should eventually just be shear luck, have a game where the bounces and calls go our way.
Agreed wholeheartedly. If there was conclusive evidence of an incompletion, I did not see it on the Jumbotron. Conversely, if the pass was ruled incomplete, I saw no evidence to overturn that call. Simply another example of an; "I wish it were so moment" by incompetent officials. Too many of these in college football today.
I thought the overturning of Ford's catch was wrong because there was no way to tell whether his fingers were under the ball when the ball touched the ground - he still could have had control of it. You can't (or shouldn't) assume anything, so whatever was called on the field should have stood.
Go Pitt.
Go Pitt.
ABC had their officiating expert on during the play and he called it immediately on first replay. All of the replay angles showed the ball roll under Ford when he/it hit the ground. Easy call on replay. The replay also showed the ND defender mugging Ford including a face mask before the ball arrived. That was the part the officials blew.
Maybe instead of wishing we would get some calls we should be wishing some of our guys would make some big plays when they're there to be made. You have to play through the officiating. Every team has to deal with it.
And just in case anyone is under the delusion the officials cost us this game, they didn't. We got rolled by a much better team.
They had to show that play at least what, six or seven times on the scoreboard at the stadium. And when my friend said that he couldn't understand why replay was taking so long I said it was obviously at least in part because they needed to get the spot and chains and game clock figured out because the pass was obviously incomplete. I don't know how anyone could watch all those replays on the scoreboard without knowing, not thinking, knowing, that the pass was obviously incomplete.
People ought to at least try to watch the games a little bit with their heads rather than just their hearts.
People ought to at least try to watch the games a little bit with their heads rather than just their hearts.
Notre Dame is much, much better than us. But that doesn't mean the refs should get a free pass. Maybe we still don't win, but the refs played a huge role. Not arguing the fact about them costing or not costing us the game, but if the officials were suspended from the Miami/Duke game, this crew should be in jail.
Yes they did and watching at home I still think it's a catch and should not be overturned
I'd say after calling it a catch you can't really say that it was clearly not caught and overturn it. Regardless, at least we can debate that. The fact that there was a blatant PI on that play is nowhere near debatable. It happened and Notre Dame got that and every other call to go their way.
Well then you clearly don't understand what the definition of a catch is, so maybe you ought to stop talking about it.
Are you for real?? Why is it that you are the only one that doesn't see what everyone else does? Spielman and the replay expert on the telecast immediately said that it was obvious that the ball rolled onto the ground in front of him. You are really fooling yourself and being a HUGE homer if you somehow saw something else. Wow.
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If it was so obviously not a catch, why did it take them so long to come to that conclusion. And how do you know that his fingers were not under the ball when it "rolled on the ground," since the camera obviously can't tell you that...
Go Pitt.
Dude!!! The other announcer said it was a catch!!
You are the homer look at your name of course you will think it's not a catch ... I high it surely was. He had control of the ball the entire time from the catch to turning over. Absolutely no reason to overturn.
How about the pass interference not called on that play and about 7 others??? Or the push off on fullers td
You are the homer look at your name of course you will think it's not a catch ... I high it surely was. He had control of the ball the entire time from the catch to turning over. Absolutely no reason to overturn.
How about the pass interference not called on that play and about 7 others??? Or the push off on fullers td
Of course you do. Because you understand the rules better than the unbiased ABC officiating replay expert who explained right away why it was an incomplete pass and would have to be overturned. But he's probably just another ND ass kisser, like Chris Spielman, right?
There wasn't one ounce of clear evidence that the ball hit the ground without ford's hand under it. And you are correct on the interference.
Yeah and McDonough was just a putt ass kisser because he thought the play was a catch???
Get real... Your argument makes no sense
Get real... Your argument makes no sense
If you are telling me you clearly saw the ball on the ground without Ford's hand under it then I am calling you a liar.
The ball rolled under Ford. Obvious on replay from every angle. That's a no catch. The reversal was the correct call. Don't take it from me, call the NCAA director of officiating.
But there was no way of knowing Ford's arm wasn't under the ball. So just seeing the ball without s
Yes because they get it right all the time LOL. I give up on this one.My point is the ball rolled under Ford but it looked like Ford's arm was under the ball and the ball was in his control. I guess the point is there was no evidence his arm wasn't under the ball so why overturn it.
There is no way to say whatever was called on the field was wrong. Period. Considering the refs could not see a simple interference any of the 5 blatant times they were committed, I don't have any confidence that the replay officials have the greatest set of eyes on Earth. You can make a case that the ball moved and a case his arms were under the ball (which it looked like to me after watching it over, and over, and over again.) So by replay rule, whatever was called should've stood.
On a side note, if K'Waun Williams was covering Dontez Ford there, no chance a flag isn't thrown. Yet again Notre Dame gets gift, after gift, after gift. Even more sickening than Notre Dame cheating just about every play was Kelly trudging his fat ass halfway onto the field after that play.
On a side note, if K'Waun Williams was covering Dontez Ford there, no chance a flag isn't thrown. Yet again Notre Dame gets gift, after gift, after gift. Even more sickening than Notre Dame cheating just about every play was Kelly trudging his fat ass halfway onto the field after that play.
Okay, this reeks of "conspiracy thinking", but I wouldn't put it past those "paragons of virtue" in the ACC to want the Irish to get the favorable calls to lure them into the fold as full time members. Heaven forbid that Notre Dame would get screwed on a call - they might have second thoughts about their interest in the ACC!
Sounds crazy, but you know with how corrupt Notre Dame is would you be surprised if they kept telling the ACC they're really thinking about joining the ACC in football? Then, they go out and give them calls because when they don't they scream and yell and say your officials are terrible that's why we're not joining your league. Trust me, I know this sounds ridiculously crazy, but the Notre Dame bias throughout America is just as baffling to me.
I'm not suggesting either of us are right. I'm just saying given how Notre Dame gets everything to go their way a) I wouldn't really be surprised and b) I'd just call this you thinking outside the box. Too many people here think we live in a perfect world, we play football for fun, and everybody's happy. Wrong. College football is played to make money and if Notre Dame means more money, than you best believe everything possible will go their way.
Yeah, it's waaay outside the box. But after we witnessed how the Big East officials tried to give the 13-9 game to WVU to get them into the National Championship game, I'd say that anything's possible - especially when there are large sums of money involved.
Exactly, that is the key. Money is power and Notre Dame is the big money maker in NCAA Football. They bully conferences, make their own rules, and still get the benefits of being affiliated with a conference. Notre Dame is basically running a dictatorship on college football.
OH....sorry, I thought this was the Pitt board. I didn't realize it was BWI. Carry on!
So on a Pitt board we can not discuss opponents? Or do we have to forget we ever played Notre Dame and talk about only Pitt or Duke now? Because I know there's no way you're seriously going to be one of the people to say money isn't THE most important thing in the business of NCAA football.
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