Notre Dame in talks with the ACC about being a full member
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Except that is what you are posting. That ESPN and Duke and UNC wanted UConn and BC "and a few others" (which was actually the entire rest of the conference, maybe save Wake, if you even believe Duke & UNC wanted UConn) opposed UConn. You said BC's insistence was the push instrumental in beating ESPN, Duke, and UNC. That isn't only 100% wrong, it is completely nonsensical.
Just on the ESPN front, what was the reason ESPN wanted UConn? Explain that, please.
Have you heard of FSU and Clemson? You aren't worth it. I trust my source at the time.
What isn't worth it is a source that claims BC to be the primary influence in Pitt being invited into the ACC in 2011, as you seem to repeatedly suggest. It doesn't matter who UNC and Duke's first choice were. They don't equal the ACC, and they didn't control expansion, expansion wasn't done for basketball, and any preference for UConn was far from the majority member opinion or that of the conference office. To my knowledge, not at any time in the process of deliberating the expansion strategy for the ACC was UConn preferred over Pitt by the the conference or a majority of its members. In fact Rutgers was probably on deck to get in before UConn. That doesn't disqualify individual schools' preferences or oppositions, or the fact Nordenberg or Pederson had been laying the groundwork for a move (and not just to the ACC) for at least a year prior, and had addressed the conference's concerns about the school. It's not that your source doesn't have some details of singular events or actions right, just not the overall picture. In the end, the ACC's expansion was not done out of necessity (like a year later for Louisville), but preemptively, deliberately, and strategically, and therefore, the end result of the 2011 invites is the most definitive evidence of the conference's preferences.
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We made it known we were leaving the BE after the Villanova football debacle. At that point we decided the basketball schools made the situation untenable. The ACC moved on us because we were going to the Big 12 with WVU if no other options appeared. The ACC & ESPN felt we (and Cuse) added the most value. The ACC was obviously a better option than the Big 12
Didn't the BC AD also say they added who their TV partners said to add in an interview, meaning Pitt and Cuse? Going against everything about ESPN being for UConn?
You aren't funny, accept for your continued assertion that a BC temper tantrum was the deciding factor in conference realignment. That is hilarious.
But as you are fond of saying, you aren't worth it.
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DeFilippo's mouth is infamous. But obviously the ACC consulted its media partners on the value of expansion candidates. They'd be stupid not to. The implication that ESPN told the ACC who to add is a different story. However, when the goal is to dominate the East Coast from a media perspective and maximize the value of those media deals, you listen very carefully to the advice of people in the business who you will be renegotiating with for more compensation.
In 2010, when decisions were being made by all conferences, the average Nelson ratings for national football broadcasts on OTA networks or ESPN looked like this according to a Pennlive article:
Pitt 3.31 (7 games)
UConn 2.23 (4 games)
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Oh, I 100% agree.
I'm just pointing out that Gregjacobs using his source and what DeFilippo said, he should also point out DeFilippo said that the ACC added who the media partners wanted (ie. ESPN) which in this case was Pitt. Not UConn like GJ is saying.
That said, the notion that the ACC changed their plans on who to add because of BC is laughable.
LOL! So clearly the inside sources are saying....
We should all thank God that we were fortunate enough to be in a P5 conference. Clearly the ACC and ESPN wanted anybody but Pitt.
Even though it was clear that football was driving expansion and TV money, the ACC basketball elite schools said "F-You we don't need the money!"
Instead they lobbied for another basketball school! They wanted to become the most dominate basketball conference in America (Even though they already were...).
The choice of the big shots was not Louisville, or WVU, or Cincinnati, or Rutgers...or Temple, or even Memphis.....It was UConn where whispers of cheating allegations were making the rounds... Makes sense!
However, Boston College acting on its own self interest, stood up to the power brokers in the ACC and ESPN and demanded that UConn be excluded from the league, OR ELSE! Not sure what the "or else" was going to be... But it makes sense to me!
Instead of their dream school, they had to chose a school that would bring a good / decent basketball and football team that has a name brand.... WVU, Cincinnati, Temple, Louisville, Memphis all were successful in both sports so obviously it must come from this group....But they settled for Pitt?!?!
Makes no sense to me!!
SHEESH! Instead of discussing why we are lucky to be in the ACC, made we should talk about what Pitt brings that the other schools mentioned do not...
We should all thank God that we were fortunate enough to be in a P5 conference. Clearly the ACC and ESPN wanted anybody but Pitt.
Even though it was clear that football was driving expansion and TV money, the ACC basketball elite schools said "F-You we don't need the money!"
Instead they lobbied for another basketball school! They wanted to become the most dominate basketball conference in America (Even though they already were...).
The choice of the big shots was not Louisville, or WVU, or Cincinnati, or Rutgers...or Temple, or even Memphis.....It was UConn where whispers of cheating allegations were making the rounds... Makes sense!
However, Boston College acting on its own self interest, stood up to the power brokers in the ACC and ESPN and demanded that UConn be excluded from the league, OR ELSE! Not sure what the "or else" was going to be... But it makes sense to me!
Instead of their dream school, they had to chose a school that would bring a good / decent basketball and football team that has a name brand.... WVU, Cincinnati, Temple, Louisville, Memphis all were successful in both sports so obviously it must come from this group....But they settled for Pitt?!?!
Makes no sense to me!!
SHEESH! Instead of discussing why we are lucky to be in the ACC, made we should talk about what Pitt brings that the other schools mentioned do not...
Paragraph 5, 6 and 7 right on the money except Pitt was always ahead of the retreads you mentioned in paragraph 7. Our sources are from the same circle.
But wait Gregjacobs source says that everyone including ESPN wanted uconn. They wanted uconn because they were local
.For the multi time, the original issue at hand was how such an awful, inaccurate, frankly fraudulent article was able to be released by even a semi legit source.
Tell ya what. I'm going to write an article that alleges in the headline that Ray Gricar once suspected that Sandusky had carnal relations with the Paterno sons. I'll basically repeat the same thing vaguely in the first sentence on the article. Never mention it again. Then for the next 3500 sentences I'll give a diatribe on why Pitt should be in the Big Ten instead of Northwestern. Will this same outlet publish it? Based on the drivel that was in this "Notre dame" article I don't see why not.
Tell ya what. I'm going to write an article that alleges in the headline that Ray Gricar once suspected that Sandusky had carnal relations with the Paterno sons. I'll basically repeat the same thing vaguely in the first sentence on the article. Never mention it again. Then for the next 3500 sentences I'll give a diatribe on why Pitt should be in the Big Ten instead of Northwestern. Will this same outlet publish it? Based on the drivel that was in this "Notre dame" article I don't see why not.
But wait Gregjacobs source says that everyone including ESPN wanted uconn. They wanted uconn because they were local
I didn't post that. But clown it up!
