Nutting proves again how cheap he is. Cuts Rowdy 4 plate appearances away from a bonus.
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Claims it wasn't due to money...how f'ing cheap is this organization. Not defending telez as he probably should have been let go in may before going on a good run for a bit. But to cut a guy the last week of the season and then have the audacity to claim its because the minor league season is over....this guy is such a joke. Pirate fans need to boycott the bucs until he sells.
Anybody that gives Nutting a dime is a fool.
The sad thing is that if they just didn't want to pay him the money, play him a couple fewer games this month, then play him only once or twice this week, maybe pinch hit him once or twice, and oh, rats, he just missed that bonus. And no one other than him and his agent would have cared.
It’s a smart move if you are using the savings to get better players. But he won’t. But Pittsburgh’s chunky media only care about free food at games.
Cherringtons blathering on speaks volumes to me.
Yeah, it says that he's going to do what his boss tells him to do.
Which is pretty much what most people do in a situation like this.
If it wasn't a factor, I suppose they could pay him the bonus anyway, like any good employer would do.
Let me know when they cut the check.
They should transfer the stadium debt to Nutting. Figure out a way to make that POS pay for it.
Unfortunately this group of incompetents does not have the history to allow them the benefit of a doubt. I’m sure anyone in that clubhouse knows what we all suspect. Good news Skenes will get out a year earlier since he will finish in top 2 for ROY.
It hit the espn headlines. I can’t imagine this went over well in the locker room. Additionally, who would want to come here ?
www.espn.com
Tellez, 4 PA's shy of $200K bonus, cut by Pirates
Pirates GM Ben Cherington said first baseman Rowdy Tellez's potential bonus had "zero factor" in the decision to cut him before Tuesday's game.
Next year’s versions of Michal (triple) A Taylor and Rowdy Tellez. They’d be dumpster diving regardlessIt hit the espn headlines. I can’t imagine this went over well in the locker room. Additionally, who would want to come here ?
Tellez, 4 PA's shy of $200K bonus, cut by Pirates
Pirates GM Ben Cherington said first baseman Rowdy Tellez's potential bonus had "zero factor" in the decision to cut him before Tuesday's game.
Cherington is a lying dog face pony soldier
Having said that I shed no tears for Tubby Telez. Dude was terrible in the field and looked like he was going through the motions. Not the kind of guy you want around Young players to set an example. IMO he was a cancer.
But again the time to do this was way earlier the season. Doing it now just reinforces the joke that this organization is. Legit players like Skenes have to be counting the days hours and minutes until they get to escape
From Nutsack purgatory
Having said that I shed no tears for Tubby Telez. Dude was terrible in the field and looked like he was going through the motions. Not the kind of guy you want around Young players to set an example. IMO he was a cancer.
But again the time to do this was way earlier the season. Doing it now just reinforces the joke that this organization is. Legit players like Skenes have to be counting the days hours and minutes until they get to escape
From Nutsack purgatory
He should be owed the bonus for how many innings they had him pitch.
It was based on ABs and not performance. It's not his fault they had to play his sorry ass so much.
He actually played pretty well for three months.
Mar/Apr: .198/.283/.259
May: .143/.160/.163 (this is when he should have gotten cut, and Michael A Taylor too, and no one would have batted an eye)
June: .333/.380/.546
July: .297/.338/.578
Aug: .300/.325/.488
Sept: .116/.225/.209
An utterly classless move. Great way to attract future free agents. Wow.
The best way to attract free agents worth a crap is to offer big contracts. And they don’t. So this will be relatively meaningless when all is said and done.Ike I said above there will be another Tellez or Taylor.
It's not meaningless. The player's association will likely file a grievance over this and those guys all know that PGH's owner is dog crap. If they do this over a $200k bonus, none of the incentives linked to AB's or innings are worth the ink that lands on the paper. The Pirates load this roster with FA's who make under $200k and have to sign for incentives. This is a tiebreaker that every agent will be certain to mention.
meh, rowdy was a bad signing and gave a half assed effort all year. a few good months hitting where he turned doubles into singles (John Wehner gets credit for that statement) all year becuase he was too fat and lazy to do anything but jog, doesnt change anything..
good riddance to this guy and glad he's not getting the 200k. give it to someone who actually wants to be here unlike that pile of fat garbage..
good riddance to this guy and glad he's not getting the 200k. give it to someone who actually wants to be here unlike that pile of fat garbage..
I’m saying it’s meaningless in regards to the types of free agents they’ll sign. The owner has been dog crap since day 1. This dump stinks a little worse for sure, but it’s a steaming pile regardless.
the only mistake this organization made was not getting rid of this guy a month ago and letting a younger player take his place in august..
I did not like Rowdy Tellez at all, especially after attacking Pirates fans for booing. Feel about him the same way I felt about Phil Jurkovec. All of that being said, what the Pirates was a low class move and it just proves that owner Bob Nutting is only worried about making money. Until Pirates fans stop spending their hard earned money on supporting the minor league ball team that the Pirates have become under his leadership, expect nothing to change. Making financial decisions like this one (and YES, that is exactly what this was) does nothing except to tarnish the image of this once proud baseball organization.
But it's not. This is exactly the kind of incentive that gets dumped into the low value FA contracts the Pirates like to do.
Of course he will. Yet, the long winded answers reaks of " backpedaling".....spinning it..... to justify his boss's decision
All he had to say was " we made a baseball decision "
and then leave the room.
He has now officially pissed me off more than neal huntingdon.
Doesn’t matter. Nobody of any repute is on their free agent target list anyway. They will wait until mid- to late January or early February to sign another Rowdy Tellez who can’t get a contract from any other team.It hit the espn headlines. I can’t imagine this went over well in the locker room. Additionally, who would want to come here ?
Tellez, 4 PA's shy of $200K bonus, cut by Pirates
Pirates GM Ben Cherington said first baseman Rowdy Tellez's potential bonus had "zero factor" in the decision to cut him before Tuesday's game.
Not to speak for King, but I think he means they'll sign any schlub who nobody else even wants. A warm body who they'll spin some resurrection tale about and guys like KennyHeisman will be all excited.
I was thinking about this last night. A prudent owner, who wasn't the greediest man alive, would come out publicly and say he's donating that $200k to whatever charity. Say it wasn't about the money and prove it by not pocketing it. It's not like an owner worth north of $1 billion is going to miss $200k. Its like 0.3% of his yearly profit, a rounding error to him.
Why is everybody so bent outta shape over a player being DFA’d before reaching a $200K incentive when that player was paid $3 million(!) for the season?
I don’t think anyone is feeling bad for Tubby. In fact most people dislike him
However it’s fair to point out this is typical of the cheap Pirate organization
Exactly. The dudes in their price range are choosing between a chill season of major league baseball with no expectations vs either retiring early altogether or obtaining a CDL for their second career. This might matter if they signed people who have options, but they don't.
Plus, if they're that worried about it, I'm sure they can be careful about what type of contractual wording they agree to.
Is it still a slimy move? Absolutely. But the Bucs is gonna Buc with or without this move.
Because the scrooge worth a billion, lounging in his taxpayer funded stadium, is going to pocket it. Nobody feels bad for Telez. The ire is towards the shameless owner who will do anything to line his pockets. Many of us hope he chokes on the $200k.
The sad thing is this team as a pretty good core of young position players and starters
If the pirates had a legit owner and management team they could be serious playoff contenders next year. Perhaps not World Series level but a playoff win would easily be possible.
But you know darn well they will go dumpster diving and sell the garbage as improvement
If the pirates had a legit owner and management team they could be serious playoff contenders next year. Perhaps not World Series level but a playoff win would easily be possible.
But you know darn well they will go dumpster diving and sell the garbage as improvement
Honestly, in terms of cheap moves by Pirates, I would have rather have seen them shut Skenes down early enough so that he wouldn't be in the top 2 of NL rookie of year voting, so that they would get him for another season. But they really thought they had a chance this year. How delusional.
Not only is that a crappy thing to do, it’s bad business. It is going to repel free agents from wanting to play for the Pirates and make current players worry about their own status over the success of the team. Skenes will probably be wearing pinstripes in a few years.
I’m an Orioles fan and had to put up with that kind of nonsense from the Angelos family for the past 30 years. Thank the heavens they finally sold. Just imagine being an A’s fan.
I’m an Orioles fan and had to put up with that kind of nonsense from the Angelos family for the past 30 years. Thank the heavens they finally sold. Just imagine being an A’s fan.
There are a lot of reasons. He was good enough to be on the roster all season but they cut him a couple days short of the end of the year for what amounts to pocket change for the owner. Would you risk your reputation over a ten bucks? Would you be cool if your boss shorted you on what would amount to a 6% bonus? Don't get me wrong, I know where you're coming from but it's a garbage move by a billionaire owner that damages the perception of the club.
What's baffling is that there are plenty of fans that are so enamored with stadium backdrops and fireworks that they just keep on showing up. They haven't won their division in over thirty years and have only managed a winning record four times. Even when they won there wasn't any effort to improve the team for the playoffs. "Can't risk ruining the future!" Such BS for a club that's doing just enough to average 75 wins and keep the suckers on the hook.
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