Ok. Can we bring back the Locker Room forum now?

[PittGuy2000]

yep, when you cant defend facts, question the source. i can post 150 sources saying the same thing but you keep waving your ukranian flag while this clown keeps going around the globe begging for money..

Don’t tell me what I wave or what I do. You make a lot of assumptions - a sign of lack of critical thinking abilities.

I don’t get my opinions from Patriot Lady. You do. It’s sad. “My news source is Patriot Lady on twitter.”

You can’t be so unserious as to suggest peace negotiations that don’t involve one of the two combatants are legitimate. Crawling to Saudi Arabia to have Russia dictate their terms to us while Ukraine isn’t even in the room. Pathetic.

 

[HailToPitt1985]

Who’s actually hung up on “identity politics “ on the left ?

You mean having individuals making decisions for themselves ?!?

DEI, a leftist thing, is identity politics. Referring to anyone by race, religion, or gender identity is identity politics. Everyone on the left wants this DEI nonsense and constantly refers to people as being black, or Hispanic, or gay, or transgender before identifying them as people. AS A GROUP, NOT AS INDIVIDUALS. That is Marxist philosophy. Individuals making decisions for themselves is more something on the right. Conservatives don't believe in grouping people into little "groups" based on the color of their skin or whatever.

 

[Zeldas Open Roof]

Don’t tell me what I wave or what I do. You make a lot of assumptions - a sign of lack of critical thinking abilities.

I don’t get my opinions from Patriot Lady. You do. It’s sad. “My news source is Patriot Lady on twitter.”

You can’t be so unserious as to suggest peace negotiations that don’t involve one of the two combatants are legitimate. Crawling to Saudi Arabia to have Russia dictate their terms to us while Ukraine isn’t even in the room. Pathetic.

zelensky wont let elections happen and he wont let this war end, it's too much money for him. he doesnt want peace, peace means he loses his job and loses the endless bankroll he's getting..


F him, dude is the enemy..

 

[PittGuy2000]

Not sure who you’re referring to. Plenty of us aren’t happy with things trump does. We look at issues, not who is on what team and we don’t do mental gymnastics trying to support guys 100%. Plenty aren’t happy with the Israel support, while some are. I think it was a week into his term when he already pissed plenty of us off. You see, we don’t expect much out of our politicians. We are skeptical of all of them, including trump. Your worship politicians. HailtoPitt is a leftist free thinker, and Pghson tries to keep an open mind on things. But in 25 years on this board, I’ve never once seen you criticize anyone on the left. Not once. And I’d put Joey and BurghGuy in your category too. You guys slurp at the leftist altar in a creepy culty way.

this is why we can never get anywhere. Because I feel the same way about the right worshipping politicians. And so we just think the same thing about each other - blind loyalty to a politician.

But I see the NFT, the Bible, the flags, the hats, the “Daddy’s home” merchandise….
and I just can’t believe you arrive at the conclusion, “it’s the left that worships their politicians.”

We live in two different realities now. And I just can’t figure out how we can ever get back on the same page!

 

[PittGuy2000]

zelensky wont let elections happen and he wont let this war end, it's too much money for him. he doesnt want peace, peace means he loses his job and loses the endless bankroll he's getting..


F him, dude is the enemy..

Could Putin withdraw his troops right now or not? Seems to me that would end the war immediately. That’s where we differ.

What does patriot lady say about why Putin doesn’t withdraw his troops and end the war?

 

[HailtoPitt]

Could Putin withdraw his troops right now or not? Seems to me that would end the war immediately. That’s where we differ.

What does patriot lady say about why Putin doesn’t withdraw his troops and end the war?

He's winning. Why would he withdraw?

 

[Fk_Pitt]

this is why we can never get anywhere. Because I feel the same way about the right worshipping politicians. And so we just think the same thing about each other - blind loyalty to a politician.

But I see the NFT, the Bible, the flags, the hats, the “Daddy’s home” merchandise….
and I just can’t believe you arrive at the conclusion, “it’s the left that worships their politicians.”

We live in two different realities now. And I just can’t figure out how we can ever get back on the same page!

Don’t forget the Trumpy Bear!

All I was saying is that the people here, in this forum, the ones who have radar and seem to come out of the woodwork any time politics are discussed, they aren’t free thinkers. They are 100% all in on their side. The guy I was responding to it the king of it.

I certainly know people on my side who are 100% all in no matter what…but the guy I consider the biggest Trumper on this site (who shall go nameless) sees Trump doing things that don’t make him happy. Even with him, it’s country over everything else. We have a country to win back. Washington is out of control.

 

[Fk_Pitt]

zelensky wont let elections happen and he wont let this war end, it's too much money for him. he doesnt want peace, peace means he loses his job and loses the endless bankroll he's getting..


F him, dude is the enemy..

Could you imagine if trump suspended elections here and put his political opposition in jail?

 

[PittPharm2002]

Not sure who you’re referring to. Plenty of us aren’t happy with things trump does. We look at issues, not who is on what team and we don’t do mental gymnastics trying to support guys 100%. Plenty aren’t happy with the Israel support, while some are. I think it was a week into his term when he already pissed plenty of us off. You see, we don’t expect much out of our politicians. We are skeptical of all of them, including trump. Your worship politicians. HailtoPitt is a leftist free thinker, and Pghson tries to keep an open mind on things. But in 25 years on this board, I’ve never once seen you criticize anyone on the left. Not once. And I’d put Joey and BurghGuy in your category too. You guys slurp at the leftist altar in a creepy culty way.

Buddy
You are full throated maga
Who are you fooling ?’

Hailtopitt isn’t a leftist .
He’s a cultist. It’s also why he hates actual liberals

I’ve criticized Dems and the left plenty
You simply have selective memory

Some highlights :
I’m pro-nuclear power
I’m for an 0% corporate tax rate (they also
Then lose citizens united protection ).

 

[PittPharm2002]

Could you imagine if trump suspended elections here and put his political opposition in jail?

Is he in an active war zone ?
Because Churchill did the same ?

Has Putin had real elections for 25 years?!?
Yet - mums the word on that from the admin

 

[Zambam22]

Could you imagine if trump suspended elections here and put his political opposition in jail?

Don’t forget about the banning of certain religions

 

[Zeldas Open Roof]

Could Putin withdraw his troops right now or not? Seems to me that would end the war immediately. That’s where we differ.

What does patriot lady say about why Putin doesn’t withdraw his troops and end the war?

maybe because he doesnt want to be surrounded by nato? I mean, this has been stated for about 20 years now as the cause but some dont talk about it.

 

[PittPharm2002]

maybe because he doesnt want to be surrounded by nato? I mean, this has been stated for about 20 years now as the cause but some dont talk about it.

Why not ?
Because his invasions would get a military response ?
Why do you care about making Putin happy ?

 

[PittPharm2002]

Don’t forget about the banning of certain religions

Fake news
Or is this also another Putin tactic ?

 

[PittPharm2002]

Why are all the “American First” weirdos also beholden to Putin and Isreal ?’b

 

[ChiefJusticeMarshall]

If you remember that then you’ll certainly remember Clinton’s cuts went thru Congress. And it was reviewed.

It wasn’t done by some adderall laced rich civilian hatchet man.

The congress was Republican then, no? Imagine that happening now. We used to have a government who actually governed. Now we just have two parties who oppose each other on every ****ing thing.

 

[ChiefJusticeMarshall]

I just want the Russian hockey team in the Olympics.

 

[Zambam22]

Fake news
Or is this also another Putin tactic ?

Pope Francis condemns Ukraine’s ban on Russian Orthodox Church

"In thinking about the laws recently adopted in Ukraine, I fear for the freedom of those who pray, because those who truly pray always pray for all," Francis said after his Aug. 25 Angelus. The pope stated that "a person does not commit evil by praying" and urged Ukrainian leaders to "let those who

www.ncronline.org

Ukraine’s president signs law banning Russia-linked religious groups | CNN

Away from the frontlines, Ukraine is waging a different battle against Russia as it seeks to remove Moscow’s influence from religious institutions.

amp.cnn.com

 

[Fk_Pitt]

Is he in an active war zone ?
Because Churchill did the same ?

Has Putin had real elections for 25 years?!?
Yet - mums the word on that from the admin

I wouldn’t expect a pill popper to understand how to get people to the negotiating table. Ever wonder why the last administration got no where with Putin? Probably not because you’re a war monger who wants the bodies bags to keep flowing.

 

[Slick Manager of Champs]

Could you imagine if trump suspended elections here and put his political opposition in jail?

give it time you won't be imagining it

 

[Fk_Pitt]

Buddy
You are full throated maga
Who are you fooling ?

Funny. A month ago I expressed my displeasure with trump on an issue and you laughed at me by saying I was duped.

Guess what? No politician is ever gonna make us happy on anll the issues. Except you…you’ll defend them at every turn…if they are blue.

 

[HailToPitt1985]

Politicians should be barred from serving in public office. ALL politicians. Their lack of commitment and bowing to whoever is giving them money makes them very compromised. If there ever is a politician who begins as an honorable person and has strong, ethical views on issues, that politician quickly becomes polluted by the filth in DC. If a politician remains headstrong and committed to doing the right thing, you won't hear from them ever again.

 

[Fk_Pitt]

Politicians should be barred from serving in public office. ALL politicians. Their lack of commitment and bowing to whoever is giving them money makes them very compromised. If there ever is a politician who begins as an honorable person and has strong, ethical views on issues, that politician quickly becomes polluted by the filth in DC. If a politician remains headstrong and committed to doing the right thing, you won't hear from them ever again.

Conor Lamb anyone? I knew his family. Thought he went to Washington with the best of intentions. Then when he got there, first thing he had to do was kiss Nancy’s ring and well, that was it. No independence. Voted with Nancy 100% of the time.
Washington will eat you up.

 

[HailToPitt1985]

Conor Lamb anyone? I knew his family. Thought he went to Washington with the best of intentions. Then when he got there, first thing he had to do was kiss Nancy’s ring and well, that was it. No independence. Voted with Nancy 100% of the time.
Washington will eat you up.

That's who I was thinking of. Thanks for bringing that up. With politics, no matter what side you're on, you better toe the company line and bow to those in power or you will be ostracized, canceled, even jailed.

 

[Fk_Pitt]

this is why we can never get anywhere. Because I feel the same way about the right worshipping politicians. And so we just think the same thing about each other - blind loyalty to a politician.

But I see the NFT, the Bible, the flags, the hats, the “Daddy’s home” merchandise….
and I just can’t believe you arrive at the conclusion, “it’s the left that worships their politicians.”

We live in two different realities now. And I just can’t figure out how we can ever get back on the same page!

 

[Fk_Pitt]

Is this true? Or out of context. ?

 

[Fk_Pitt]

 

[HailToPitt1985]

Is this true? Or out of context. ?

View embedded media

Even if it's true and not out of context, it's a lie. Zalenskyy needs to read both Article 5 and Article 6 of the NATO treaty. He's blatantly wrong and either not aware of what the NATO treaty says or just stupid and doesn't care. No Americans will be dying to defend Ukraine.

 

[TheSpecialSauce]

This really shouldn’t be hard. The US and all the Western Allies tell Putin to get the f’ out of Ukraine. If he doesn’t, then impose sanctions on him that cripple Russia. The Western Allies can provide the aid to Ukraine if need be and we provide vocal support to back them.

 

[DruidTM]

maybe because he doesnt want to be surrounded by nato? I mean, this has been stated for about 20 years now as the cause but some dont talk about it.

What American GAF what Putin wants?… I don’t… his senseless and stupid invasion was running out of gas…now Trump can’t wait to be aligned with Him, Iran and Hungary…& help his owner out…

Putin can and should crash and burn with his gas station economy and 20+% Inflation rate…f@ck him entirely… he started something he can’t finish.

 

[Zeldas Open Roof]

What American GAF what Putin wants?… I don’t… his senseless and stupid invasion was running out of gas…now Trump can’t wait to be aligned with Him, Iran and Hungary…& help his owner out…

Putin can and should crash and burn with his gas station economy and 20+% Inflation rate…f@ck him entirely… he started something he can’t finish.

im looking for the best way out of this, this senseless war needs to end. i care about as much for putin as i do for zelensky. both of those mother F*ckers can drop dead tomorrow and i wouldnt lose a second of sleep. honestly, if both dropped dead today, drinks on me boys..

it seems to me that europe, the left (media mainly) want this to continue forever, paid for by the good Ol US. The polish PM said it best a few days ago: "500 million Europeans are asking 300 million Americans to defend them against 140 million Russians."

Trump is trying to be mediator here and end it. we all know why zelensky doesnt want it but it has to end. throwing bad money hand and fist is doing nothing but extending this, putting us further into debt and stockpiling fatality numbers. the mainstream media wants trump to insult and antagonize Putin. what good would that do?


EIther go 100000% and end this, which has the risks of expediting WW3 or diplomatically get both sides to agree to a seize fire, each side has to agree to concessions and end this. Yeah, it sucks, ukraine would have to give up land, putin and russia would have to take a PR hit and walk away with their tail between their legs but it would be the best ending to a bad sitution..


but instead, dems and neocons want this to go on and on and on and we just keep the money going somewhere, but no one can ask questions on where it goes. way too many politicians getting richer and richer off of this. No thanks..

 

[Fk_Pitt]

im looking for the best way out of this, this senseless war needs to end. i care about as much for putin as i do for zelensky. both of those mother F*ckers can drop dead tomorrow and i wouldnt lose a second of sleep. honestly, if both dropped dead today, drinks on me boys..

it seems to me that europe, the left (media mainly) want this to continue forever, paid for by the good Ol US. The polish PM said it best a few days ago: "500 million Europeans are asking 300 million Americans to defend them against 140 million Russians."

Trump is trying to be mediator here and end it. we all know why zelensky doesnt want it but it has to end. throwing bad money hand and fist is doing nothing but extending this, putting us further into debt and stockpiling fatality numbers. the mainstream media wants trump to insult and antagonize Putin. what good would that do?


EIther go 100000% and end this, which has the risks of expediting WW3 or diplomatically get both sides to agree to a seize fire, each side has to agree to concessions and end this. Yeah, it sucks, ukraine would have to give up land, putin and russia would have to take a PR hit and walk away with their tail between their legs but it would be the best ending to a bad sitution..


but instead, dems and neocons want this to go on and on and on and we just keep the money going somewhere, but no one can ask questions on where it goes. way too many politicians getting richer and richer off of this. No thanks..

They hate it when you make this much sense.

 

[HailToPitt1985]

im looking for the best way out of this, this senseless war needs to end. i care about as much for putin as i do for zelensky. both of those mother F*ckers can drop dead tomorrow and i wouldnt lose a second of sleep. honestly, if both dropped dead today, drinks on me boys..

it seems to me that europe, the left (media mainly) want this to continue forever, paid for by the good Ol US. The polish PM said it best a few days ago: "500 million Europeans are asking 300 million Americans to defend them against 140 million Russians."

Trump is trying to be mediator here and end it. we all know why zelensky doesnt want it but it has to end. throwing bad money hand and fist is doing nothing but extending this, putting us further into debt and stockpiling fatality numbers. the mainstream media wants trump to insult and antagonize Putin. what good would that do?


EIther go 100000% and end this, which has the risks of expediting WW3 or diplomatically get both sides to agree to a seize fire, each side has to agree to concessions and end this. Yeah, it sucks, ukraine would have to give up land, putin and russia would have to take a PR hit and walk away with their tail between their legs but it would be the best ending to a bad sitution..


but instead, dems and neocons want this to go on and on and on and we just keep the money going somewhere, but no one can ask questions on where it goes. way too many politicians getting richer and richer off of this. No thanks..

Well said.

 

[Slick Manager of Champs]

They hate it when you make this much sense.

The Left and the left media wants to continue the war forever? This makes sense? Please share one source that corroborates this.

 

[DruidTM]

im looking for the best way out of this, this senseless war needs to end. i care about as much for putin as i do for zelensky. both of those mother F*ckers can drop dead tomorrow and i wouldnt lose a second of sleep. honestly, if both dropped dead today, drinks on me boys..

it seems to me that europe, the left (media mainly) want this to continue forever, paid for by the good Ol US. The polish PM said it best a few days ago: "500 million Europeans are asking 300 million Americans to defend them against 140 million Russians."

Trump is trying to be mediator here and end it. we all know why zelensky doesnt want it but it has to end. throwing bad money hand and fist is doing nothing but extending this, putting us further into debt and stockpiling fatality numbers. the mainstream media wants trump to insult and antagonize Putin. what good would that do?


EIther go 100000% and end this, which has the risks of expediting WW3 or diplomatically get both sides to agree to a seize fire, each side has to agree to concessions and end this. Yeah, it sucks, ukraine would have to give up land, putin and russia would have to take a PR hit and walk away with their tail between their legs but it would be the best ending to a bad sitution..


but instead, dems and neocons want this to go on and on and on and we just keep the money going somewhere, but no one can ask questions on where it goes. way too many politicians getting richer and richer off of this. No thanks..

Dems would definitely have preferred the invasion never happened to begin with. I have no clue where you get your ideas at this point?

Second Europe has been helping Ukraine more than the US… probably at about 60-40% breakdown. The shit trump pulled Friday was an absolute disgrace that only a true believer cult member who’s been fed propaganda could ever recognize as anything other than a disaster. Again Russia isn’t our pal though they’re trumps boss obviously. Aligning ourselves with the countries I mentioned earlier is exactly the wrong thing for America & Americans .

You guy create what you think is real. I don’t care about trans people.. just leave em alone. That’s it. Same rights as an American as anyone else….thats it…. They’re a very very very small portion of the population…Now The GOP is *completely* fixated on them as the campaign ads and every RWNJ twitter account can attest. It’s been a pathological obsessive talking point brought up each cycle then dropped once they successfully scare enough voters. BTW- every “pedo” arrest I’ve witnessed over the past few years winds up being some conservative pastor, teacher, youth leader etc…. It’s never some cross dressing book reading trans person….Why isn’t the right up in arms against Pastors? Oh yeah… they vote GOP.

DEI… it’s not about giving jobs promotion not based on merit… it’s about NOT being able to exclude people based upon things other than merit. Again where do you get this bullshit?

 

[TheSpecialSauce]

They hate it when you make this much sense.

History shows that no ceasefire or treaty with Russia can be trusted

The Russian Federation has no regard for international norms and regulations and therefore no credibility in making agreements.

thehill.com

 

[DruidTM]

People who trust Putin to honor anything haven’t paid attention or are idiots

You don’t expect the arsonist to be the one to put out the fire or make amends… you don’t trust a murdering psychopath to be an honest broker in a “peace” deal…. How many of those has he shredded already? Zero reason for Zelensky to trust any of it. Not even a close call

 

[Fk_Pitt]

History shows that no ceasefire or treaty with Russia can be trusted

The Russian Federation has no regard for international norms and regulations and therefore no credibility in making agreements.

thehill.com

I like that you linked the Hill. At least that’s crediblE and worthy of consideration. However, Clinton said himself that Putin never once renigged on a deal with him. Not once. I can pull that clip if you need it. Additionally, maybe Putin only responds with strong leaders? He didn’t respect Biden and Obama, which is why his land grabs came during their administrations.

The only thing our continued involvement will do is prolong the killing. Not to mention that every dollar we invest, whether it’s in cash or weaponry, is taking food out of our grandchildren’s mouths considering we are in debt out the ass and borrowing everything we give. Weren’t you the one complaining about our national debt? When does it end? This war will never end.

 

[ChiefJusticeMarshall]

Conor Lamb anyone? I knew his family. Thought he went to Washington with the best of intentions. Then when he got there, first thing he had to do was kiss Nancy’s ring and well, that was it. No independence. Voted with Nancy 100% of the time.
Washington will eat you up.

What is ironic......is when Fetterman beat him, I thought "great another moderate Democrat is being replaced by another progressive" and now Fetterman has proven to be his own man and not a rubber stamp. Funny how that worked out.

 

[TheSpecialSauce]

I like that you linked the Hill. At least that’s crediblE and worthy of consideration. However, Clinton said himself that Putin never once renigged on a deal with him. Not once. I can pull that clip if you need it. Additionally, maybe Putin only responds with strong leaders? He didn’t respect Biden and Obama, which is why his land grabs came during their administrations.

The only thing our continued involvement will do is prolong the killing. Not to mention that every dollar we invest, whether it’s in cash or weaponry, is taking food out of our grandchildren’s mouths considering we are in debt out the ass and borrowing everything we give. Weren’t you the one complaining about our national debt? When does it end? This war will never end.

I said this above already.

This really shouldn’t be hard. The US and all the Western Allies tell Putin to get the f’ out of Ukraine. If he doesn’t, then impose sanctions on him that cripple Russia. The Western Allies can provide the aid to Ukraine if need be and we provide vocal support to back them.