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You and your partner in crime slobbered over Hayes for a month in this thread. But you never admit you are wrong about anything so whatever. Hayes sucks. He's a bust. Contract was terrible. But don't worry. Just post a reply and you'll get your usual fanboys liking whatever post you make since it is directed at me. So you can feel better about yourself.


When you kept saying it before I told you to link even one post where I said that Hayes was good, and you of course could not. So I'll say it again. Show us just one post, in this thread or in any other, where I said that Hayes was good and I'll admit I was wrong.

On the other hand, I won't hold my breath waiting for you to admit that you are wrong when you, once again, can find no such post.
 
This kid is the real deal. Blossoming into a solid starter and should be a mainstay of the rotation for a long time.
Clearly currently the Pirates best starter, and getting better as the year goes on, unlike Keller.
He has better stuff, and velocity than Priester. And maybe Keller.
 
Ok, so John Wehner just said on the telecast, "now that there is gambling on baseball..."

Apparently John has never heard of the 1919 World Series.
 
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On pace for a 12 game improvement from 2022. 73-89. Is that a good enough improvement based on the injuries to perceived "core" players?

2023 74-88 0.455
2022 62-100 0.383
2021 61-101 0.377
2020 19-41 0.317
2019 69-93 0.426
2018 82-79 0.509
2017 75-87 0.463
 
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On pace for a 12 game improvement from 2022. 73-89. Is that a good enough improvement based on the injuries to perceived "core" players?

2023 74-88 0.455
2022 62-100 0.383
2021 61-101 0.377
2020 19-41 0.317
2019 69-93 0.426
2018 82-79 0.509
2017 75-87 0.463
"pace" not relevant as they are 20 games under 500 and said pace is highly skewed since the end of April when they were 10 games over 500.
 
"pace" not relevant as they are 20 games under 500 and said pace is highly skewed since the end of April when they were 10 games over 500.
Biggest problem with using their current pace to project end of year record is that in the last few years they’ve tanked big time in August and September. So if they can change that this year and actually maintain their current season long pace, or even their pace since end of April, I’d consider it a win.
 
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"pace" not relevant as they are 20 games under 500 and said pace is highly skewed since the end of April when they were 10 games over 500.
The are 10 games under 500, not 20. Baseball is a long season. You cannot take snippets of a couple of weeks to determine the team. So it is obvious in your opinion that a 12 game season improvement is not sufficient
 
On pace for a 12 game improvement from 2022. 73-89. Is that a good enough improvement based on the injuries to perceived "core" players?

2023 74-88 0.455
2022 62-100 0.383
2021 61-101 0.377
2020 19-41 0.317
2019 69-93 0.426
2018 82-79 0.509
2017 75-87 0.463

They're playing well recently. They're also bound to go on at least one more epic losing streak, or perhaps a few smaller losing streaks, that bring that win total down a bit. That isn't being negative; it's just not being an idiot. They always do it. Would not shock me one bit if they're 1-5 in the next 6, for example.
 
The are 10 games under 500, not 20. Baseball is a long season. You cannot take snippets of a couple of weeks to determine the team. So it is obvious in your opinion that a 12 game season improvement is not sufficient
Since the deadline, they are starting as many as 6 rookies, depending on who is pitching.
If that group plays .500 ball or better the rest of the way, that is a significant accomplishment and a very good harbinger for the future.

These kids are getting their feet wet in the majors, and most are having some degree of success. There is NOTHING bad about that and is exactly what you want to happen.
 
To win 74 they will have to play at .460 for the last 50 games, really I don't think it will happen, getting to 70 is an accomplishment for this outfit.
 
To win 74 they will have to play at .460 for the last 50 games, really I don't think it will happen, getting to 70 is an accomplishment for this outfit.
Don't look now, but they're only 6 games back in the loss column from second place Reds/Cubs! But their starting pitching depth is shot, especially if Keller keeps spitting the bit.

The Reds have come hurtling back to earth.
 
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The are 10 games under 500, not 20. Baseball is a long season. You cannot take snippets of a couple of weeks to determine the team. So it is obvious in your opinion that a 12 game season improvement is not sufficient
meant to say 20 games under 500 since they were 10 above 500..ie 20 games under since then end of April...May, June and July (the 20 games under 500 "pace") is not a "snippet". It is one might call the "current pace" and not the overall pace that you base your end of season projection on...take their May till now .366 winning percentage and project that out until the end of the year..
 
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Looking at the lineups last night versus Atlanta just showed the disparity in hitting:

AVG​
OBP​
SLG​
AVG​
OBP​
SLG​
R. Acuna Jr.RF​
0.339​
0.421​
0.582​
C. Joe1B​
0.244​
0.332​
0.434​
O. Albies2B​
0.261​
0.319​
0.512​
B. ReynoldsLF​
0.265​
0.329​
0.450​
A. Riley3B​
0.273​
0.333​
0.501​
A. McCutchenDH​
0.260​
0.380​
0.400​
M. Olson1B​
0.266​
0.371​
0.604​
H. DavisRF​
0.220​
0.312​
0.360​
S. MurphyC​
0.275​
0.375​
0.528​
J. PalaciosRF​
0.234​
0.267​
0.383​
M. OzunaDH​
0.236​
0.312​
0.472​
J. SuwinskiCF​
0.217​
0.338​
0.473​
E. RosarioLF​
0.242​
0.293​
0.45​
E. RodriguezC​
0.236​
0.300​
0.473​
K. PillarLF​
0.233​
0.262​
0.442​
J. Triolo3B​
0.278​
0.336​
0.296​
O. ArciaSS​
0.297​
0.354​
0.45​
L. Peguero2B​
0.233​
0.267​
0.488​
M. Harris IICF​
0.283​
0.329​
0.46​
A. WilliamsSS​
0.286​
0.375​
0.357​
Atlanta​
0.2705​
0.3369​
0.5001​
Pittsburgh​
0.2473​
0.3236​
0.4114​
 
meant to say 20 games under 500 since they were 10 above 500..ie 20 games under since then end of April...May, June and July (the 20 games under 500 "pace") is not a "snippet". It is one might call the "current pace" and not the overall pace that you base your end of season projection on...take their May till now .366 winning percentage and project that out until the end of the year..


Similarly, the Cubs are 13-4 in their last 17. Before that they were 45-51. Someone should probably tell them that based on that they aren't really playoff contenders and they might as well shut it down now to avoid the disappointment.

Well, either that or someone might realize that literally every team every year goes through really good streaks and really bad ones. Unless they are caused by injuries or trades there is no reason to think that either the good streak or the bad one is the real indicator of how good or bad a team is, and that looking at the whole of the season makes a lot more sense.

To pick on tonight's opponent, the Braves have an 8-13 stretch on their resume in late May. And they also have a 24-3 stretch on their record from early June to early July. Is either one of them a better indicator of them as a team than their actual 70-40 record? Which is their performance the rest of the season most likely to mimic, the .381 stretch, the .889 stretch, or the .636 that they are for the season on a whole?
 
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Is Keller as an All Star gonna look as weird as when Jeff Locke was one? He's been the same guy his whole career except for that glorious start to this year.
 
I know he's the hometown guy and all, but man, kinda wish we would have traded Bednar and got what we could have for him. Would it have had a better payoff than moving Santana, Hill, and Choi?
 
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Last year they pitched Bednar until his arm practically fell off. This year they seemed to really try to avoid that. Until recently. Now it feels like they are pitching him way too much again, and it's really starting to show on the mound.
 
Last year they pitched Bednar until his arm practically fell off. This year they seemed to really try to avoid that. Until recently. Now it feels like they are pitching him way too much again, and it's really starting to show on the mound.
Agreed . But he is the closer . And a darned good one .
Can’t win em all I guess ..
 
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Agreed . But he is the closer . And a darned good one .
Can’t win em all I guess ..


Yeah, but you simply can't put him out there four times in five days, with the fifth day being one that he was warmed up and ready to come in but they ended up not using him.

It should be no surprise that he didn't have anything close to his best stuff tonight.
 
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Yeah, but you simply can't put him out there four times in five days, with the fifth day being one that he was warmed up and ready to come in but they ended up not using him.

It should be no surprise that he didn't have anything close to his best stuff tonight.
Yeah . They are battling though . But yeah would like to see someone come in for his relief .. If that makes sense …
 
Don't look now, but they're only 6 games back in the loss column from second place Reds/Cubs! But their starting pitching depth is shot, especially if Keller keeps spitting the bit.

The Reds have come hurtling back to earth.
He was leading the league in 2 out doubles in the month of August.
Don’t ya just love basebore.
More action among the fans than on the diamond.
 
Can any Pirate fan help me out with some insights into Rodolfo Castro? I'm a Phillies fan and hated to see Falter go? He got a bum deal this year and lost his confidence. I think a change of scenery will be great for him. He was super clutch for the Phillies last year during their late season run.

I've read that Castro hits for some pop from one side of the plate, but Ks a lot and is an average defender. He started for the Phillies in game 2 of a double header and couldn't have looked worse. He boggled two absolutely routine plays in the field and swung wildly at the plate. I'm hoping the field part was just nerves. Based on what I saw, he shouldn't play at all unless in an emergency or as a PH.
 
Can any Pirate fan help me out with some insights into Rodolfo Castro? I'm a Phillies fan and hated to see Falter go? He got a bum deal this year and lost his confidence. I think a change of scenery will be great for him. He was super clutch for the Phillies last year during their late season run.

I've read that Castro hits for some pop from one side of the plate, but Ks a lot and is an average defender. He started for the Phillies in game 2 of a double header and couldn't have looked worse. He boggled two absolutely routine plays in the field and swung wildly at the plate. I'm hoping the field part was just nerves. Based on what I saw, he shouldn't play at all unless in an emergency or as a PH.


For his career, against left handed pitchers Castro's slash line is .275/.338/.554. That's pretty darn good.

For his career, against right handed pitchers Castro's slash line is .192/.272/.294. That is pretty darn awful.

Unfortunately for him, there are a lot more right handed pitchers than left handed ones.

He's still only 24 so he has time to get better. But he has to figure out how to hit right handers better or he becomes pretty much unplayable.
 
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For his career, against left handed pitchers Castro's slash line is .275/.338/.554. That's pretty darn good.

For his career, against right handed pitchers Castro's slash line is .192/.272/.294. That is pretty darn awful.

Unfortunately for him, there are a lot more right handed pitchers than left handed ones.

He's still only 24 so he has time to get better. But he has to figure out how to hit right handers better or he becomes pretty much unplayable.
He looked like Barkley on the golf course last night. He literally couldn't get the ball out of his glove twice to make simple throws to 1st. There was some weird hitch going on.

Thanks for the info.
 
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