Castro will probably be an all-star for somebody some day once he learns how to play baseball.
OT:Buccos
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Buccos match last season’s win total last night with 27 games still to play. This is an improved ball club. 62-73.
2022: 62-100
2022: 61-101
2021: 19-41
2022: 62-100
2022: 61-101
2021: 19-41
Mitchy with another strong outing. Looking like he has navigated through that rough patch.
I bullishly picked 81-81 for them this year, not coming to fruition but they are improved. I'm just not a fan of Shelton, Haines and Marin.
Skenes was terrific last night in Erie to. 2IP, 3k's, 1 hit allowed. 18 of 25 for strikes.
And just like that, the Pirates get the same call.
Need 2 now to really sting the Cards!
Actually 2 against the Cards but with Sewinsky up , just put an automatic 1 out he stinks so bad ...
Ten games to go and the Bucco's still aren't mathematically eliminated from the playoffs (they will be in next day of two). However 7 other teams already have been eliminated. This team is definitely trending upward and doing so with younger talent. Likely about a 12-15 game improvement from last year as they avoided the second half losing cliff when they sell off the old veterans like previous years.
2023: 71-81
2022: 62-100
2021: 61-101
2020: 19-41
2023: 71-81
2022: 62-100
2021: 61-101
2020: 19-41
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I'm a Pirates homer so this is what I do, but there's honestly a lot to be encouraged about by this Pirates team. And when you consider that they had a 12-15 game improvement with Cruz out the whole year, I can definitely talk myself into Buccos Fever 2024!
or 20 games under .500 since May 1...Cruz will be one of the greatest down or up by 7 runs clutch hitters of all time. Kid hits some awesome meaningless home runs...
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Crap, I almost forgot that it's unjustified optimism season for the Pirates.
Yeah, it's been a "good" season by their standards, but I'm a little concerned with when they stacked their wins. Teams haven't hit their stride early in the season and not every team is putting forth their best effort after the All Star Break.
That sounds like I'm trying to find negativity, and I am. It's the Pirates, and they deserve every ounce of it. Hayes and Reynolds coming alive is the main thing I care about. Hopefully they can do that when the games still matter next season. But these rotating, overachieving Quad A players who will be here today and gone tomorrow don't do much for me.
So basically, you're saying we should only care about wins from what... May to July?
I'm saying that, in a 162-game season, weird things tend to happen at the beginning and the end. Many teams flat out concede that their season no longer bears meaning as of the trade deadline on August 1st, and then they still play two months of baseball after that. You have guys getting shut down, expanded rosters and call-ups, etc. It's really silly to put too much weight into August and September, as it could just mean our JV squad is better than your JV squad or our young guys vying for future employment care more than your veterans who know they won't be making the playoffs. We're 12-17 in August and September against teams that are .500 or better. That's not horrible, but it's also not great. Those are the teams I'm pretty confident are still expending max effort.
Following Ski’s lead, so you’re basically saying the Pirates were way better than their 60-some win/100-some loss records the last 2 seasons since a large # of those losses came in August and September?
I said August/September records in baseball are deceptive, because teams have traded away some of their starters, are getting a look at call-ups, may or may not be playing for anything, etc. Is that really a controversial take?
I am sure your glass is always half empty.
Here is a fact: One team cost the Pirates the playoffs this year.
Pirates are 2-10 against the cubs this year and 69-71 against everyone else
The Cubs are 10-2 against the pirates and 69-71 against everyone else
Cubs currently have a wildcard spot.
When it comes to the Pittsburgh Pirates? No, not half empty.... empty AF. And shattered.
I was joking more than anything but also pointing out that it works both ways.
To a certain extent, I agree with you though. I’m in a fantasy BB league and in the semifinals right now with the final next week. League needed to be shortened a week or two because now you have to deal with guys on non-playoff teams being shut down for the season, particularly pitchers, or guys on teams like the Braves coasting to the playoffs with nothing to play for and giving guys rests.
Pirates did me a big favor yesterday though. My opponent had the Cubs ace Justin Steele and the ole Bucs tagged him for 6 earned runs in 3 innings.
Oddly enough, in a 162 game season weird things tend to happen in the middle too.
That's why I have him on ignore ..
Curious . Has he threatened to knock anybody's teeth down their throat lately ?
As usual the trib is wrong. Cubs have last spot at 81-74. Pirates are 74-81. Both could end up 81-81 forcing a play in game. It doesn’t go to any tie breaker. Not going to happen but trib is wrong. Espn has them still at 0.1%
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So is this the lineup?:
3B - Hayes
SS - Cruz
2B - Gonzalez
1B - Free Agent
Catcher - Rodriguez
OF - Suwinski, Reynolds, Davis
Utility/DH/Bench/Platoons with the above - Palacios, Triolo, Piguero, Delay, Joe or McCutchen
Starting Rotation: The best 5 out of Keller, Oviedo, Contreras, Skenes, Brubaker, Ortiz, a free agent, and maybe another youngin who performs well in camp (Jackson, Priester, etc.)
3B - Hayes
SS - Cruz
2B - Gonzalez
1B - Free Agent
Catcher - Rodriguez
OF - Suwinski, Reynolds, Davis
Utility/DH/Bench/Platoons with the above - Palacios, Triolo, Piguero, Delay, Joe or McCutchen
Starting Rotation: The best 5 out of Keller, Oviedo, Contreras, Skenes, Brubaker, Ortiz, a free agent, and maybe another youngin who performs well in camp (Jackson, Priester, etc.)
Oh, that's rough. Although I think he kind of outperformed his expectations anyway, so coming back down to reality probably wasn't out of the realm of possibilities for him.
He was coming along. Up and down for sure but he had decent stuff for a young guy.
Hope the surgery works.
Endy is having the elbow surgery,so he’s not going to be catching this year
