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OT: Coach Cowher named to NFL Hall of Fame
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Cool moment. And happy for him. But...
Best way to the HOF is to be a good coach, maybe even a very good coach. But make sure you follow it up with a tv gig and you’re in. Ask John Madden.
The HOF is for the greats.
Best way to the HOF is to be a good coach, maybe even a very good coach. But make sure you follow it up with a tv gig and you’re in. Ask John Madden.
The HOF is for the greats.
Great moment! Glad to see Cowher make the HOF. Troy should be a lock and it'd be incredible to see Shell and Faneca all in the same class.
Just hope Cowher doesn’t keep Troy out this year. And I hope Troy doesn’t keep Faneca out. And I hope Faneca doesn’t keep Shell out.
Who cares if any of them get in if you want to get technical. It doesn’t affect my life.
But it’s cool if they do.
I don't think Cowher is a HOF coach but glad to see him make it as a local guy.
Yeah I know. I’m just pissy tonight. He’s more of a jet then a Steeler so put Troy in.
If a guy is a Hall of Famer, they're a Hall of Famer. I guess the ceremony is limited on time, but I'd rather see them put in everyone who deserves it as soon as they're eligible. Troy was one of a kind. Faneca was arguably the best at his position for a generation. Shell should've been in a long time ago.
* Top 20 in Regular season wins
* Top 20 in Winning Percentage of coaches with more than 50 wins
* One of only 6 coaches to win at least 7 Division Titles
* Super Bowl winner
If that isn't HOF, then not many coaches are
Shell should be included in the 10 man Centennial class. Troy should be a shoe in in the regular class. Faneca deserves it but probably won’t get in now.
Yea I can see how people think he may be marginal but when you dig in to the numbers he belongs.
Too bad it took him as long as it did to get the franchise QB. Then he did and won. And bailed.
Dungy is a hall of Fame coach and so is John Madden. I believe both of these guys only have 1 super bowl victory to their name They have good career victory numbers etc and so if they are in them Cowher should be also.
I don’t think Of Cowher as a great coach but the standards for coaches have been set , probably lower than they should be so if that’s what the NFL wants the so be it
I don’t think Of Cowher as a great coach but the standards for coaches have been set , probably lower than they should be so if that’s what the NFL wants the so be it
Because Faneca should have been in a long time ago. He was the best player at his position for 7-8 years. Hall of Fame is a joke with him not being in already.
Troy is more of a HOF'er than Cowher, IMO.
Why isn’t Jimmy Johnson or Tom Flores in. Seifert ? Don’t these guys have multiple super bowl championships ?
What is the NFL going to do in 10 years when they will have 20 receivers all with mind boggling stats at the HOF doorstep ? Can’t let everybody in unless it is really the Hall of Pretty Good
What is the NFL going to do in 10 years when they will have 20 receivers all with mind boggling stats at the HOF doorstep ? Can’t let everybody in unless it is really the Hall of Pretty Good
I don’t think you’ll get too much argument. He’s top 2 of his generation with Reed. Not too may in history are better. Lott in the conversation for sure. I think Cowher is worthy but he’s certainly not in that stratosphere.
I agree, which is why I also believe Tomlin will be in the Hall of Fame one day as well. 19th in win %, won six division titles, and a Super Bowl winner.
Three consecutive Hall of Fame coaches over a 50-year span. We’ve had it pretty good.
Since Cowher got in, the Steelers should have four inductees this year. Those two, Faneca, and Shell. Emphasis on should, because they probably won’t let the Steelers have four inductees in one class or else they’ll hear a lot of complaining.
They should just go ahead and build a Steelers wing in the Hall!
And I think Cowher, Madden and tomlin should be in the Hall of Pretty good. But hey, the more Steelers the better.
Just imagine if the Steelers drafted Marino in 1983. Probably would’ve been another Steeler Dynasty in the 90s with those Blitzburgh defenses.
I don’t know how the numbers bear out. But I’m afraid shell won’t get in. He was one of my favorites.
I don’t necessarily disagree with you. But the precedent has been set, and therefore I hope Tomlin gets in if that’s the bar. Like you said, more Steelers the better!
I hope I’m wrong. Lord knows Baltimore fans thought harbaugh was done. But I think there’s a good chance that Tomlins numbers are going to dip significantly. I worry about a 38 year old QB after elbow surgery...and even if he has a good year next year, Tomlin is staring down the barrel of years without a franchise QB.
That could certainly happen. Maybe it’s the eternal optimist in me, but I’m fine with where they’re at right now.
I think they have two more years of contending with Big Ben and this defense, which at that point I’m assuming he’ll retire.
I think they have some good young players to build around (Watt, Bush, JuJu). I also trust them to draft a new franchise QB. Whenever they’ve actually gone out and drafted a QB in the first round, they’ve nailed it. I think they learned from the last time that they need to draft a QB to maintain success, unlike the post-Bradshaw era.
For me, they’re like the opposite of the Pirates. They’ve proven enough for me that I trust them to make the right decisions.
The Centennial guys, which is how Cowher got in, have already been picked. They have only announced Cowher at this point (I assume as a publicity thing), but whether or not Shell gets in has already been decided. So whether or not Troy or Faneca get in won't affect him at all.
The rest of the Centennial guys will be announced this coming Wednesday, iirc.
Cowher has more total wins and more playoff wins than those three and he only had a “franchise” QB for three seasons. Flores three seasons coaching Seattle(2-14,6-10, 6-10) hurt his cause and he took over a loaded team. Seifert was handed the keys to one of the greatest teams in league history so the voters might not give him enough credit and he stunk it up during his three season coaching Carolina(8-8, 7-9, 1-15). I think Johnson is the other coach that goes in this year.
Guards play football too, in case you hadn't noticed. (You probably didn't.)
Interesting post. I was in the "He didn't deserve it" camp but you convinced me. I didn't realize he was around that long, although he did coach in the 16-game era and never lost time to strikes or anything like that.
I've always felt that Shell and Greenwood not being in was pretty unfair. Heck, Shell is STILL the all-time INT leader among SS I think and he is easily in the top 3 against the run! He gets blasted for there being too many Steelers and also the bias against players who started out as special teamers.
If George Allen, Tony Dungy and Hank Stram are in the HOF then Cowher should be in.
They’re only taking two coaches in the “Centennial Class” and I think the other selection will be Mike Holmgren.
Also if you were a voter and had to make a choice between Jimmy Johnson and Dick Vermeil who would you pick?
They’re only taking two coaches in the “Centennial Class” and I think the other selection will be Mike Holmgren.
Also if you were a voter and had to make a choice between Jimmy Johnson and Dick Vermeil who would you pick?
This is a weak class. (Not including the special 10 man "centennial" class)....... So Troy is a shoe in. I think Faneca may get in also. It's time and again, a weak class.
Cowher+Troy+Faneca would guarentee the Steelers playing in the HOF game.
Cowher+Troy+Faneca would guarentee the Steelers playing in the HOF game.
This is true. If you are talking about the elite of the elite only in the Hall of Fame, there maybe be 4-5 coaches total. Belichick would be the only name that should be mentioned as a candidate for the the past 20+ years. That's not how the Hall works though so you get a variety of guys in there with fewer accolades by comparison.
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