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I can afford to buy the most expensive season tickets available, because I work REAL FCCKING HARD/LONG HOURS, and make a high $IX FIGURE $ALARY. I am able to get free tickets, just like most well off people, because I actually have connections inside the University athletic department. You think Trump PAYS for tickets to anything? And when I do miss games it's because I have more important things to do, like watching my daughter play soccer, that's WAY, WAY, WAY MORE IMPORTANT than going to a Pitt game.
Sorry, did not know you had connections..better watch my tongue.....hahaha
 
Democratic socialism does not intend to end capitalism, it intends to exist in parallel, all the capitalist, for profit businesses would still exist, they just wouldn't rule on every issue, like stupid Americans allow them to here and now. I am proud to say I am a DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST and fully support the existence of capitalism, like Bernie Sanders does.
Well, at least we know how the road of good intentions is paved...
 
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Democratic socialism does not intend to end capitalism, it intends to exist in parallel, all the capitalist, for profit businesses would still exist, they just wouldn't rule on every issue, like stupid Americans allow them to here and now. I am proud to say I am a DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST and fully support the existence of capitalism, like Bernie Sanders does.
You said Bernie Sanders "fully supports" Capitalism. He doesn't. He says he doesn't.

"Stupid Americans", socialism, and soccer? Sounds like you would be a lot happier elsewhere.
 
I guess it depends on who you trust, Wall Street or Government. I clearly don't trust Wall Street.
Why would you trust either? However, Wall Street doesn't ask you to trust them. They don't pretend to be altruistic. They are out to make money and drive their business. The Government (and especially people like Sanders) does the exact opposite.
 
Right, because we currently don't have a strict capitalist society. I think Bernie probable thinks of capitalism as the maximum separation of government and the private sector. We don't have that now.

Here is a good and fair article on the subject:
https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...3/bernie-sanders-democratic-socialism/471630/
No one said we did. I've read that article. It is very slanted. I also, don't argue our society isn't growing more and more socialistic and our population is more and more in support of socialistic programs. We are creating a culture of feeding at the Government teet and the people want more, more, more. This is not a shock. It is scary, but not a shock.
 
You said Bernie Sanders "fully supports" Capitalism. He doesn't. He says he doesn't.

"Stupid Americans", socialism, and soccer? Sounds like you would be a lot happier elsewhere.

No, since I was born here, I have the right to stay here and make my country better than the crap they've let it become. I don't fully support capitalism either, if fully support means, let the capitalists decide everything about how our society is run.
 
I'm not trying to "support Pitt athletics", it's just a recreational day out, enjoying a game and tailgate party, PERIOD. Still, that in no way restricts me from ripping the university a new ass whole for not doing more to win. Buying a ticket sometimes, buying team gear, watching on TV, that qualifies you as a FAN, you don't need to do anything more and you have the same rights to speak as anyone who donates a million dollars.

No, it doesn't.

But it DOES get you labeled as a hypocrite. Justifiably.

This is not a hard concept to understand. I'd think an uber-successful guy like you would be able to catch on quickly.
 
...our population is more and more in support of socialistic programs. We are creating a culture of feeding at the Government teet and the people want more, more, more. This is not a shock. It is scary, but not a shock.

Well then why aren't the capitalists, trickling down more money and creating more good jobs, so people don't have to do anything they can just to not starve to death?
 
No, it doesn't.

But it DOES get you labeled as a hypocrite. Justifiably.

This is not a hard concept to understand. I'd think an uber-successful guy like you would be able to catch on quickly.

uber-successful, I'd say, I'm above average, certainly not rich. But the thing is, I don't have to PAY MONEY to be allowed to give my opinion on a college sports program. And it's not hypocritical. Where is it written that you have to donate to the sports program before you're allowed to give an opinion as to what they should do? That's just stupid.
 
I just cut the cord this month. Couldn't be happier. Antenna + Sling(blue)....Get everything the family wants but with no ESPN.

interesting. How do you watch Root Sports in this set up? Do you watch hockey or baseball? That's always been my biggest hold up.
 
uber-successful, I'd say, I'm above average, certainly not rich. But the thing is, I don't have to PAY MONEY to be allowed to give my opinion on a college sports program. And it's not hypocritical. Where is it written that you have to donate to the sports program before you're allowed to give an opinion as to what they should do? That's just stupid.

Actually, I think you might be the stupid one here.

You advocate that Pitt doesn't do enough to "win at all costs". Clearly, even to the least knowledgeable person, money is a key element in winning at all costs either legally or not. Yet you do nothing to AID in Pitt winning at all costs, specifically your lack of financial contribution directly in donation form and/or through the purchase of tickets and swag. In fact, you brag over and over again that you do as little as possible.

The fact that you practice one set of standards while demanding the completely opposite set of standards makes you the LITERAL definition of a hypocrite, regardless of your protests.
 
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Actually, I think you might be the stupid one here.

You advocate that Pitt doesn't do enough to "win at all costs". Clearly, even to the least knowledgeable person, money is a key element in winning at all costs either legally or not. Yet you do nothing to AID in Pitt winning at all costs, specifically your lack of financial contribution directly in donation form and/or through the purchase of tickets and swag. In fact, you brag over and over again that you do as little as possible.

The fact that you practice one set of standards while demanding the completely opposite set of standards makes you the LITERAL definition of a hypocrite, regardless of your protests.

I'm not "part of the team", I don't work there, I'm an outsider, I contribute in tickets and gear, that's enough to qualify as a fan. And yeah, If I buy a Steelers ticket and give it to a fan in exchange for a Pitt ticket, yes, I supported the program, because the money going from the person who bought actually came from me.

Truth is, people who never go and own no gear, but just watch on TV are also qualified fans, with the right to give opinions.
 
interesting. How do you watch Root Sports in this set up? Do you watch hockey or baseball? That's always been my biggest hold up.

I don't. They will either eventually sign on to Sling or some other subscription service, or lose subscribers. I did email them, but I am only 1.

I tend to watch more baseball than hockey, so that will be an adjustment.....to me, it that really isn't worth the cost of cable.
 
I'm not "part of the team", I don't work there, I'm an outsider, I contribute in tickets and gear, that's enough to qualify as a fan. And yeah, If I buy a Steelers ticket and give it to a fan in exchange for a Pitt ticket, yes, I supported the program, because the money going from the person who bought actually came from me.

Truth is, people who never go and own no gear, but just watch on TV are also qualified fans, with the right to give opinions.

You are having a really difficult time with this.

I'm not saying you aren't a "fan". I'm not saying you don't have a right to voice your opinion.

What I am saying is that you are a hypocrite.
 
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What I am saying is that you are a hypocrite.

I don't see it that way, but that's your opinion, that's fine. If I'm a hypocrite, then the vast majority of fans are hypocrites. By your definition, any fan that gives an opinion that the program should do something that costs money, without then donating money beyond the price of a ticket or a jersey is a hypocrite, then every Saturday, there are probably 30000+ hypocrites in Heinz Field.
 
I don't see it that way, but that's your opinion, that's fine. If I'm a hypocrite, then the vast majority of fans are hypocrites. By your definition, any fan that gives an opinion that the program should do something that costs money, without then donating money beyond the price of a ticket or a jersey is a hypocrite, then every Saturday, there are probably 30000+ hypocrites in Heinz Field.

Not every fan who drops into Heinz on Fall Saturdays vociferously announces that "Pitt should do everything to win" while contributing as little as possible, the way you proudly admit to. Especially in light of the fact that you are more than willing to tell everyone on here how much money you make and clearly have the wherewithal to make a financial investment that would even in the most modest way equal your squawking investment.

The failing financial support of Pitt athletics is absolutely one of the major factors that has contributed to the decades of mediocrity we all have endured. If you want Pitt to win at all costs, your actions should mimic your mouth. Otherwise, you are a hypocrite. But feel free to paint the Heinz Field crowd with your own jaundiced brush to justify yourself.
 
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Not every fan who drops into Heinz on Fall Saturdays vociferously announces that "Pitt should do everything to win" while contributing as little as possible, the way you proudly admit to. Especially in light of the fact that you are more than willing to tell everyone on here how much money you make and clearly have the wherewithal to make a financial investment that would even in the most modest way equal your squawking investment.

The failing financial support of Pitt athletics is absolutely one of the major factors that has contributed to the decades of mediocrity we all have endured. If you want Pitt to win at all costs, your actions should mimic your mouth. Otherwise, you are a hypocrite. But feel free to paint the Heinz Field crowd with your own jaundiced brush to justify yourself.

No, sorry, most fans talk and most fans don't make donations.
 
No, since I was born here, I have the right to stay here and make my country better than the crap they've let it become. I don't fully support capitalism either, if fully support means, let the capitalists decide everything about how our society is run.
Who said you didn't "have the right to stay here"?

Well then why aren't the capitalists, trickling down more money and creating more good jobs, so people don't have to do anything they can just to not starve to death?
Why are people defrauding the Government and living off the system? Why do you want to extend entitlement programs as "rights" when many make the choices that prevent them from acquiring those things on their own?
 
Who said you didn't "have the right to stay here"?


Why are people defrauding the Government and living off the system? Why do you want to extend entitlement programs as "rights" when many make the choices that prevent them from acquiring those things on their own?

Who is defrauding the system and living off the system?
What entitlement programs as rights?

You have all the right wing talking points, but I can tell you don't know the actual facts.
 
Who is defrauding the system and living off the system?
What entitlement programs as rights?

You have all the right wing talking points, but I can tell you don't know the actual facts.
A lot of people. Same as there are "fat cats" lining their pockets and not trickling down wealth.

The "right" to health insurance. The "right" to free college tuition.
 
The "right" to health insurance. The "right" to free college tuition.

Myself, I think it's good. And every other developed country does it, or tries. I think money shouldn't necessarily over rule things, like health care and education, which in reality are more important than money. Not sure how to resolve it, but it's important enough that we should try. Like I honestly don't think we should have millions of people with no health care and millions unable to attend schools they are capable of graduating from, or we never rebuild our bridges, roads and infrastructure, just so that the 4th idiot daughter of Sam Walton can have $5 billion in her investment portfolio.
 
Well, I do. It's no big deal and it's just by coincidence.
Could you use those connections to finally allow Pitt stop shackling itself in fear of the NCAA and to use its boosters like winning programs do?

I'd assume those AD connections you have are either really really ostracized in that puritanical dept, or else vomit in rage at your opinions on how Pitt should compete...
 
Could you use those connections to finally allow Pitt stop shackling itself in fear of the NCAA and to use its boosters like winning programs do?

I'd assume those AD connections you have are either really really ostracized in that puritanical dept, or else vomit in rage at your opinions on how Pitt should compete...
Not really, I just know someone on an athletic committee, who often hears about inside stuff. This person is not powerful by any means, and would like for Pitt to take winning seriously.
 
Who said that? It's the same when Ted Cruz rails on and on about how bad Obamacare is, but then uses it for himself... because he is supposed to.

Or like the people that hold up signs that say "Repeal horrible Obamacare and save my ACA!"
 
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