What a finale last night. I Didn't know how they could out do last week's "Battle of the Bastards", but they did. Tremendous ending to the season.
And after 6 seasons...
Winter is here.
And after 6 seasons...
Winter is here.
OT: Game of Thrones
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What garbage? I figured you wouldn't be thrilled with it, but I have to say that even though I am not crazy about all of the shows elements, it's the most entertained I have ever been in watching television. I've never been a tv guy.
I love it when it all pulls together. When 8 years of the show culminate in two years, and events happen that are based on minor throw away items from the 1st season or two, I will be satisfied. The events of Cercei's pending demise comes to mind. Unless Martin can convince the HBO people otherwise.
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I think some plot elements haven't made sense and that is unfortunate and usually fires me up.
However, this was the best season since season 1. After season 2 I was just hate watching. Now I'm back to being entertained.
As for any issues you have, there is only so much the show runners can do given the house of Cards that Martin has built and can't finish.
I think it's great entertainment. How can anyone find major fault with the show creators, when the writer of the novels has a brother and sister (both major characters) conceiving children, and pushing innocent children who observed them doing the deed out of 3rd story windows? Not to mention the brother raping the sister at a later time next to their dead fathers body. Or was that just on tv? I do not rememeber.
Anyone who tells me seasons 4,5&6 are anywhere close to seasons 1,2 &3 is full of...well ...s&it.... The show has become all bombast ( saved for episode 9 every year) while the rest of the season nothing happens ...so many holes, people transporting to different locations ( Varys last night for example Mereen the suddenly Dorne then suddenly with the fleet? Wtf?) then Arya manages to cover tremendous distance to get back and kill 2 adults as a faceless man despite the fact she's not a FM and cooks them in a pie all without the time to do so or with nobody noticing??? Then Cersci.... Kills the queen ...the queens brother.. The high sparrow ( who is followed by thousands of people) his minions...and god knows who else and her son commits suicide... But everyone just falls in lockstep to her being queen with no rebellion ...no outrage...despite the fact she has no army? ... I really think D&D as they said wanted this show originally because of the red wedding ... Once they hit that point they either stopped caring or their egos grew so big they feel they can do no wrong... I haven't been surprised by any plot development because the show lacks what it had in seasons 1-3.... It's flat with more CGI now...that's all. Character development is dead....body counts are all that matter apparently
Varys and Arya must have access to a really cool form of transportation.
Another thing they've decided to mix in modern mannerisms ...jokes.. ( most on the level of saying "cock" 4 or 5 times an episode) that we're not in the first three seasons... It's like guys it's game of thrones ...not some other HBO series...consistency matters.
How about the Terminator waif chase scene !?!? LOL...
Tell me Stoneheart leading the Brothers without Banners to crush the Freys in a mass hanging is not more effective than time and space travel Arya?? That (?) was payback for the red wedding? Really?
How about the Terminator waif chase scene !?!? LOL...
Tell me Stoneheart leading the Brothers without Banners to crush the Freys in a mass hanging is not more effective than time and space travel Arya?? That (?) was payback for the red wedding? Really?
I thought the battle of bastards was a over rated by fans dying for a return to some of the stronger battle scenes of earlier seasons. It was OK, but not even close to blackwater, which was truly epic, and even last year's battle with the white walkers.
That said they hit a grandslam, not a home run, but grand slam last night. Decluttered, even in little ways like Danny dumping her boy toy, while pretty much setting up all the major plots going into the next season. And, it wasn't just the story, the whole production was really tight. Every plot line had a different tone to it, that matched the tone it needed, different paces, atmospheres.
Just a wonderful season ending episode, and put them on track to bringing it home over the next two shortened seasons.
That said they hit a grandslam, not a home run, but grand slam last night. Decluttered, even in little ways like Danny dumping her boy toy, while pretty much setting up all the major plots going into the next season. And, it wasn't just the story, the whole production was really tight. Every plot line had a different tone to it, that matched the tone it needed, different paces, atmospheres.
Just a wonderful season ending episode, and put them on track to bringing it home over the next two shortened seasons.
Fanboys are silly.
It's a fantasy show. If it's not entertaining to you, stop watching.
It's a fantasy show. If it's not entertaining to you, stop watching.
Even "fantasy" which includes anything that's fiction which is well... Everything has to make some logical sense within its own universe... Otherwise you might as well be watching the latest Rock action film... You can poke the stick all you want but the show has steadily slid if you've paid attention... It doesn't ruin my life but it's certainly worth remarking on since it started with alot of promise....
Kind of like seeing a band go down hill losing all originality and utilizing every cliche in the book...
Hell with the entrance of Dany at Mereen a couple weeks ago I was looking for Bat Signal somewhere... It was THAT bad and...hammy.
I heard a bigwig at HBO got canned... They've been known for great series like Sopranos but lately with True Detective and Vinyl have flopped... I hope this new show (some murder mystery deal) is good but I think Netflix passed them for good series lately.
I tried vinyl. It was tough. Couldn't do it.
I think HBO tries too hard to push the envelope. Which reminds of a new show that they are rolling out in which the extras will have genital on genital contact which is creating a problem. In any event, I cringed plenty of times over the past 6 years of GoT when HBO over did it. Whether it was with graphic killings, dialog, unnecessary sex scenes (guy on guy, girl on guy, girl on girl). It's certainly not perfect, but I have enjoyed it enough of the show to overlook the flaws.
Those who are into the arts, whether it's literature or film can critique it and fret over it all they want. It's their right. It's their thing. Others of us do it over sports.
I have seen a bit of a slippage with GOT, and they definitely have overdone it at times.
But, all in all, it is pdg TV.
And, again, last night's show was a flat out great.
I don't pay that close attention.
I watch TV to stop thinking so much.
Garbage was a bit unfair. It was a visually appealing finale. My biggest complaint is that virtually every plot during this entire season falls apart if you exert even a modicum of effort thinking critically about what you're seeing. Like Varys and Arya's magic ability to teleport throughout Westeros.
There's a lot of awful stuff in Martin's stories. The difference is that Martin isn't endorsing what he's depicting. Most of what he's writing is done for a purpose, to challenge longstanding beliefs, reinforce themes, or subvert others. What the show does is take those moments, strip them of their larger meaning, and present them as simple the "stations of canon."
The best part is that Season 5 was supposed to cut out all the "boring" parts from AFfC and DwD. Yet S6 doubled back and "covered" all those parts.
We've talked about this before so I don't expect you to make any effort to consider opinions that aren't your own, but a show this popular has an impact on culture and society. Culture does not occur in a vacuum. It's perfectly fine if you choose to watch the show without any critical thought. But other people are entitled to consume media differently.
There's a lot of awful stuff in Martin's stories. The difference is that Martin isn't endorsing what he's depicting. Most of what he's writing is done for a purpose, to challenge longstanding beliefs, reinforce themes, or subvert others. What the show does is take those moments, strip them of their larger meaning, and present them as simple the "stations of canon."
The best part is that Season 5 was supposed to cut out all the "boring" parts from AFfC and DwD. Yet S6 doubled back and "covered" all those parts.
We've talked about this before so I don't expect you to make any effort to consider opinions that aren't your own, but a show this popular has an impact on culture and society. Culture does not occur in a vacuum. It's perfectly fine if you choose to watch the show without any critical thought. But other people are entitled to consume media differently.
Consume it as you wish.
Critique and public discussion are mental masturbation.
It may feel good to you, but it accomplishes nothing
I don't understand. Isn't that we we do on these boards, regardless the subject? Ski watches things a different way than you. Just I like I watch the NBA in a different way than Ski...that is for the 30 minutes per season that I do watch. He holds tv show creators to a higher creative standard than I do. I hold pro athletes to a higher moral standard than he does.
He accomplishes discussion. And as long as it's civil, then it's cool.
I don't know how "book readers" can't wrap their mind around the fact that different things happen in the show at their own pace.
The show creates general time lines, but Varys isn't going to Dorne and back in a matter of hours, they just happen to only have 10 hours of storytelling a year, so they can't waste whole episodes making sure each storyline is entirely linear and happening in real time.
It really isnt a tough concept.
This is vaguely the same philosophy that A Song of Ice and Fire author George R.R. Martin follows. Here’s what he says in a foreword to A Storm of Swords:
A Song of Ice and Fire is told through the eyes of characters who are sometimes hundreds or even thousands of miles apart from one another. Some chapters cover a day, some only an hour; others might span a fortnight, a month, half a year. With such a structure, the narrative cannot be strictly sequential; sometimes important things are happening simultaneously, a thousand leagues apart.
From God RR Martin himself.
https://winteriscoming.net/2016/06/27/how-did-varys-travel-between-dorne-and-meereen-so-quickly/
I'm engaging in the discussion, just the same.
And yes, it's all mental masturbation.
Are you trying to say that because it didn't take a half a season on the show for Varys to get to Dorne that the only possible conclusion isn't that he must have used a transporter? That there might be something else going on? No, clearly not. There were 10 episodes this season. That means the whole season took place over ten days. Because that's how ALL television series work, doncha know?
I did have to take a double take though. When I saw Varys on the ship at the end, I had to rewind to the Dorne scene to make sure I wasn't seeing things when I saw Varys there earlier in the show. Once confirmed, I figured it's just Hollywood and I am sure the timelines work out somehow. But I wasn't going to waste time trying to figure it out and play gotcha with the show creators.
Because ummmmm... It's not that simple perhaps...? Look seasons 1-3 ran pretty much as the books with minor changes ...some that arguably improved on things here and there... The gist however wasn't demolished ...since somewhere in season 4 that changed...plots changed entirely..characters took other characters roles entirely causing them to go out of character...other characters began doing things that made no sense...and even if arguing "ok it's tv character only"... They do things that don't align with what the show character would do...see Stannis...look watch seasons 1-3...bet it will hit you the later stuff is hollowed out and something's missing...
Let's put it this way if The Lord of the Rings films screwed around with plots and characters on this level Frodo would have likely lost to the eye of Sauron after the heartbreak of Sam his "former lover" running off with either Gandalf, Gollum or some other character from the shire...I mean sure it's a story...might even be good tv for some lots of "shocks " for sure...but it would have kind of bastardized the original books? No?
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/li...6-882781/item/got-ep-rank-winds-winter-906519A cool read which ranks the episodes from 60 down to 1. For those not interested in clinking the link, the top 3 according to this publication (Hollywood Reporter) is
1) the Red Wedding
2) last nights episode
3) last week's episode (battle of the Bastards)
1) the Red Wedding
2) last nights episode
3) last week's episode (battle of the Bastards)
Anybody know why Sansa told Jon about the white raven. She told jon the message it brought said winter is coming
I thought we allready knew winter is coming ( WW) are on their way.
Or does winter is coming mean something else?
I thought we allready knew winter is coming ( WW) are on their way.
Or does winter is coming mean something else?
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Good question. All I know is that for the viewer, it means the climax of the series is upon us.
I think the white Ravens were the "official" word that the season has changed. I could be wrong though.
Anyone else have a theory on Cersei and her future? I think Jamie kills her. The vision from the previous season is all coming true (the death of her children). The other thing it said was that her little brother would kill her? Do I have that right? One would assume Tyrion, but I think Jamie might qualify as well. And given he killed a King already for wanting to use the wildfire or whatever it's called, perhaps he kills her for doing the same.
I am anxious to see what happens when Jamie runs into Tyrion once they arrive in kings landing. It seems to me Jamie and Cersi have no idea where tyrion is.. let alone he is coming to over throw the powers to be in kings landing. As the hand of the new Queen
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