I wonder if he registered at the hotel as Ron Mexico's little brother, Billy. http://cleveland.cbslocal.com/2016/...rtedly-caught-in-disguise-at-vegas-nightclub/
OT: Johnny Manziel
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Johnny thinks he's a gun slinger like Bobby Layne. Eat, drink and carry on all night and still play at a high level.
He needs to settle down.
I think he's orchestrating this sabotage with designs of getting traded to the Cowboys, or outright released which in this case would be even better (for him).
A mind is a terrible thing to waste.
Presuming he has one of course.
I don't expect him to live long...unless he is in a wheelchair.
Yeah, at the rate he's going, he's gonna be the featured subject of an ESPN "30 for 30" episode.
Who didn't see this one coming? Why anyone would waste a precious first round draft pick on a midget with questionable mechanics and who is also a major character risk is completely beyond me?
This whole thing was ALWAYS going to end this way or worse for that kid. The only question left is how his 30/30 will end: with a grief stricken old man full of regret or in his premature death?
This whole thing was ALWAYS going to end this way or worse for that kid. The only question left is how his 30/30 will end: with a grief stricken old man full of regret or in his premature death?
Dallas is a circus with one of the biggest clowns in football running the show. He'll fit right in. Barnum and Bailey has nothing over on Jerry Jones.
I think Dallas is going to take a quarterback in the first round of the draft. At least that is what I would probably do.
How often does a team like that pick in the top five?
How many more years does Tony Romo and his chronically broken collarbone have left to play? Three, four years?
If Dallas takes a QB in the first round, where is Billy Football going to go?
How often does a team like that pick in the top five?
How many more years does Tony Romo and his chronically broken collarbone have left to play? Three, four years?
If Dallas takes a QB in the first round, where is Billy Football going to go?
He might as well live it up while he's still in the NFL. Cleveland has been a QB waste land ever since Kosar. Just look at the names within the past 10 years, those guys have never been heard from again.
am I the only guy that likes this guy? Rumor has it he said..."I don't have a drinking problem, the Browns have a problem with my drinking". Love it! Hell, Pitt players back in the Majors/Sherrill days would stay up till 3 or 4 in the morning partying on Bourbon street for a week while the Bulldogs or some such team was snuggled in their beds and then go out and beat the crap out of them in the sugar bowl. Imagine if guys like Namath or Stabler lived in the days of twitter and TMZ and all that crap, they would have been run out of town before they were ever able to show what they could do....
These days no organization wants a "side show." To much media and 24/7 365 coverage. Most teams will pass on talent to avoid a media circus outside their building. In addition to Johny football being a bad influence on others they don't want the media to have access to other players with "issues." Once the rock gets rolling downhill its hard to stop!
Haha. I remember seeing a report by Myron Cope in New Orleans the week of the Sugar Bowl where Pitt beat UGA to win the National Championship. He said something to the effect like "...Its 11 PM and both the Panthers and Bulldogs are in their hotel rooms. The Bulldogs have curfew while the Panthers are getting ready for a night out on the town!"
I also heard a radio interview with Johnny Majors in Nashville just a few years ago in which the host was bragging on Majors' reputation as a disciplinarian. It went something like this...
"Coach, I've read where you never even once had to suspend a player for breaking curfew on a bowl trip. Is that true?"
JM: "Yes, That's right."
"That is pretty amazing. You must have had really tight monitoring and oversight, and I guess your players didn't want to risk getting caught and having to face you afterwards."
JM: "Actually, I just did away with curfew. I figured the best way to keep guys from breaking curfew is to just get rid of it."
It's a different world today. Also, you may love that Manziel doesn't care about his drinking problem (I'm not sure why, but I guess that's what you value), but do you love that it appears that he abused his girlfriend? How can you like a guy like that? The bottom line is that he's not good enough to make his off the field crap worth it. If he played great, Cleveland would be much more likely make excuses for him.
Spectacular college player whose game/skillset were NEVER going to translate at the next level. You didn't need to be a NFL personnel evaluator to know this. The Browns are idiots. I would never have drafted him regardless of the other issue, his glaring lack of character.
If you get hammered every once in a while but always show up for work sober and on time and do the job, you don't have a drinking problem. Like Sunday I drank like 10-12 beers watching football all day, Monday I was good to go, at work 7:00 am, no problem here.
"Appears" to have abused his girlfriend, What is the EVIDENCE? I mean nowadays, people want to CRUCIFY men for something that may or may not have happened, get the PROOF 1st and I'll be concerned. They railroaded Ben Roethlisberger, some DTF SLUT made false accusations, police investigated and there was nothing to see, nothing to prosecute, NO EVIDENCE, just railroading of a male to make PC/Feminazi America feel good, show me the evidence then I'll participate in CRUCIFYING J.Football myself, but until then, STFU.
"you may love that Manziel doesn't care about his drinking problem"..
so what you are implying is that the Pitt teams I mentioned were loaded with guys with drinking problems?
thank you for your diagnosis....
wow, a 23 year old going out and drinking constitutes a drinking problem....got it. Geez, and I, and the vast majority of my associates, had a drinking problems and never got help. My goodness how did we ever make it to 50…. as far as the girlfriend stuff goes, never heard of it so did not apply to my initial post
I don't know? Is it? Does he miss practice? Show up hung over on game day? I don't hear that sort of thing, I just seem to hear they are beating him down "zero tolerance" style, like he has a few days off goes off somewhere to Vegas or something, someone posts a picture of him drinking a beer and suddenly, that's the end of the world. I don't like or dislike the guy, but if all he is doing is truly partying on off days and still making every practice, game and otherwise doing his job, WTF is the problem? Modern USA likes to beat people down for their mistakes, and be unreasonable. Guy has a weekend off, let him blow off some steam, get drunk, and as long as he doesn't break any laws, who cares?
Well, he missed a mandatory check in under the NFL's concussion protocol. There are also reports that he showed up to a meeting drunk.
I am not one to subscribe to this politically correct society, in fact I am kind of proud to be called old fashioned.
My thoughts are:
1) As mentioned, Johnny Manziel wants to play for the Browns and live in Cleveland as much as anyone of us want a root canal. Part of this is an obvious FU attempt to get Cleveland to release him.
2) He is a dickhead. Immature.
3) Guys like Joe Namath and Bobby Layne were romanticized and considered heroes for this type of behavior. Manziel is grown man. If he wants to go out and play cards and drink and carouse, that is his god given right as a man. Why the outrage? If Manziel went out with a dress and wanted to get a sex change, he would be considered some kind of courageous hero. But please, men don't act like men. It is not allowed in today's progressive society.
My thoughts are:
1) As mentioned, Johnny Manziel wants to play for the Browns and live in Cleveland as much as anyone of us want a root canal. Part of this is an obvious FU attempt to get Cleveland to release him.
2) He is a dickhead. Immature.
3) Guys like Joe Namath and Bobby Layne were romanticized and considered heroes for this type of behavior. Manziel is grown man. If he wants to go out and play cards and drink and carouse, that is his god given right as a man. Why the outrage? If Manziel went out with a dress and wanted to get a sex change, he would be considered some kind of courageous hero. But please, men don't act like men. It is not allowed in today's progressive society.
This is from last year, shortly before Manziel entered rehab:
Four days later, stories in the Browns’ facility began to circulate. Manziel was not present the morning before the season finale. Team security drove to Manziel’s downtown home to check on him. The Browns were packing up for the season finale at Baltimore on Dec. 28.
Two team sources said security found a player who they felt clearly had partied hard the night before. One source used the words “drunk off his a–.”
- See more at: http://www.texasmonthly.com/the-dai...d-his-coaches-have-left/#sthash.gWKrKEpc.dpuf
Four days later, stories in the Browns’ facility began to circulate. Manziel was not present the morning before the season finale. Team security drove to Manziel’s downtown home to check on him. The Browns were packing up for the season finale at Baltimore on Dec. 28.
Two team sources said security found a player who they felt clearly had partied hard the night before. One source used the words “drunk off his a–.”
- See more at: http://www.texasmonthly.com/the-dai...d-his-coaches-have-left/#sthash.gWKrKEpc.dpuf
This is what I'm talking about, all they say is "it's a different time now", but just brush of the fact that by current definitions, probably 99% of college students from my day should be dead or in prison, everybody was a drug addict, alcoholic and we where all guilty of sexual assault too.
Johnny Manziel. Just kidding. My point, he is a single guy with lots of money. Some people are church going volunteers, some aren't. Would I hire him (employ him as a football player?) No. Part of the reason he ain't good enough, another part of the reason is he isn't serious enough. But that is his choices.
That's exactly it. Of if you are my age, how did you survive as a kid without a helmet while riding a bike? Hell, how did you survive going out to play with your neighborhood kids without having parents to organize and supervise?
And you can tell the age of some of those who respond negatively to this stuff, because they don't know any better. They have been programmed.
OK, now there's some evidence. But if he was told he wasn't going to play no matter what, who cares? And this was last year too, not this year. Recovery doesn't have to mean "zero tolerance" .
Wouldn't it piss you off if you were paying him millions of dollars and he decided to party, instead of taking football seriously? It's their own fault, because they were stupid enough to draft him!
They also could have cut him. Numerous times. It is the Browns. And even better, they could have not drafted him.
That reminds me of my wife's mother. Back in the days before cars had to have seat belts, she was in a car accident and was thrown from the car...she broke her neck. In a modern car, she probably would have been fine...Oh, how I long for the good old days when everything was great!
The Jones boys seem much more interested in RG3 than Mr. John Football although I do agree him & JJ are matches made in "Look at Me!" Heaven.
