OT - Moorhead to Mississippi St
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If official this is a HUGE blow to Jimmy Franks. If him & Barkley are both gone . . . .
Are any recruits tied to him that may free up for Pitt?
Franklin has done a great job replacing coaches on his staff. I expect him to hire another good one.
Franklin has done a great job replacing coaches on his staff. I expect him to hire another good one.
Moorhead. Dead.
Barkley. Dead.
Gesicki Dead.
PSU entire DBackfield. Dead.
James Franklin, I have fond memories of Tennessee....................
Barkley. Dead.
Gesicki Dead.
PSU entire DBackfield. Dead.
James Franklin, I have fond memories of Tennessee....................
Good hire. He had major success as a HC at a lower level at Fordham. Did an outstanding job managing and utilizing the talent at PSU.
Nah. Franklin will likely find a worthy replacement. I think he's pretty good at hiring coordinators.
I thought Barkley was just average anyway so not a big deal.
Transition is transition. At the very least a distraction and disruption of continuity.
Maybe. But he caused defenses to pay a lot of attention to him. We’ll see next year what the impact of that was.
He had to fire his first OC. Moorhead saved Franklin's butt and actually got him a raise.
Only the goofballs thought that.
Seems like he's been itching for a P5 HC gig. Nearly got the Purdue gig last off-season if I'm not mistaken.
Those negative first half rushing stats will be sorely missed by that Penn State offense.
Honestly, if something weird would've happened with Narduzzi, Moorhead would've been near/at the top of my list for Pitt to hire. Pittsburgh native. Four years HC experience. Two+ as an elite coordinator. Unlike Bradley, not a PSU lifer but based guy maximizing a gig in short order with designs on being a P5 HC. Thinking he'll be successful Mississippi State. But, who knows? Could still be an option in the future if he doesn't love down south.
I would say the opposite at least for how he mismanaged Barkley and cost him the Heisman Trophy. Having Barkley get handed the ball from a Standing Position and he then was not able to create any momentum when Defensive Players got into the CULT's Backfield that lead to several Negative Yardage Plays. The Ultimate Failure of Barkley to Win the Heisman falls on MilkDud though, as he is the HC of 'UnRivaled'. If Barkley is at almost any other School, who finished in the Top 25, he Wins the Heisman.
Can't wait to hear the excuses from the CULT when MilkDud loses to 'Akron' next year in 'their' Super Bowl, despite still having better Talent(a lot more 4 Star Players) on their Team.
I always figured he'd go to a P5 program if possible rather than an AAC. Mullen was a native of western PA that had success at Miss State. Of course, he did coach at Florida before that...
That was the Barkley Effect for sure!
He ran up big numbers against average to below average teams and did very little against the tough teams.
I mentioned this before the book on Barkley in HS was play him tough, hit him hard, and he lays down! Mrs Buffett and I watched him play alot in HS since he played for a team in our local conference.
Barkley will be an avg NFL back who will last for around 5-6 yrs.
Do ties in an area really matter all that much? Honestly, I think too much is made of it during the hiring process. If you win, have the resources and have any type of charisma you can recruit. Saban didn't have any ties to the south in 2000 when he took the LSU gig, he turned out ok.. if you're a good coach, you're a good coach - football is football in the north, south, east or west! just hire the best damn coach.
That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Barkley had almost 200 yards at Ohio State as a true freshman. I'm sure he was intimidated by the Easton Red Rovers, but not a night game at Ohio State.
Nobody knows what his NFL career will hold as there are many factors in play, but I highly doubt he will be average.
You shouldn't be allowed an opinion about football.
Biggest question to me is, does he take anyone else from the staff with him? I know most came from Vandy with Franklin. Might be hard to steal them. Would love to see 1 or 2 guys follow him out the door. Maximize the chaos just before the early signing period.
How did he do against good teams this year!
Look at the games where the majority of his stats came from!
He played in a watered down Lehigh Valley AAAA conference which in the past ( 10-14 yrs ago) had powerhouse teams Liberty, Easton, Parkland, Freedom, Whitehall, Beth Catholic, Emasus, etc. Both our kids played on a team in that conference at that time so we've watched the conference decline.
Nothing would shock me with Canada. But, given he's already actively reaching out where there are HC vacancies, if he has any success, he'll leave for the first HC gig he can get. When LSU hired him, beyond the bump in pay, it was mentioned often that Canada really wanted a HC position. LSU - a major profile program in the best league with best defenses to showcase his acumen - seemed the perfect springboard.
sounds like what folks in Oregon were probably saying about that east coast guy Chip Kelly's lack of ties to the west....
I'll say this about the Moorehead move; when Canada left and the entire offense declared early, it was widely viewed as a disaster for Pitt. The cycling of OC's and the loss of talent was deemed a disaster by everyone with a Twitter account and a deadline. Moorehead leaving is being spun as "proof" that PSU is really a top program now because it is now feeding coaching talent elsewhere and the players filling in behind will just step in and it's just different names and numbers. No big deal. Same guys writing, different years.
Funny how things change.
Funny how things change.
I think so highly of Moorhead that it wouldn't shock me to see him back at PSU in 3/4 years if Franklin stumbles and he has success at Miss State a la what happened with Chizik and Malzahn at Auburn.
I think Franklin could just go and jump at some point. Maybe sooner than later. When he negotiated his buyout down, my first instinct was that he was already looking for something else but only because why else would you do that?
Moorehead coming back would be strange but who knows?
Very possible if Franklin would leave. However, Franklin is on the upswing at PSU and has a great class coming in so he has about as much job security as possible at the moment.
No idea who Moorhead has in mind for his staff, but as was stated the rest of the staff is all guys Franklin brought with him from Vandy, or hired himself. Moorhead didn't bring anybody with him. Wouldn't doubt if he makes an offer or two.
I just hope JM takes a few key coaches with him and as many recruits as he call pull. Make the carnival barker defend every inch of his own territory.
You don't see the difference between one guy making a lateral move and the other becoming a HC in the SEC?
I get what you are saying, but Franklin has more experience as a HC as well as an offensive background so I can see why there might be less "concern". Also, despite losing some talent, PSU still has their QB coming back.
After the way Tennessee handled the Schiano debacle, only an alum or a Tennessee high school coach will take that job.
Moorhead made a career move to better himself.
But DC Bob Shoop left for a lateral move after the 2015 season even after JF brought Shoop with him to PSU. So Franklin is not impervious to coaches leaving for lateral positions.
Don't be so sanctimonious.
Who cares? He is talking about the talking heads fretting over the void of Canada leaving versus Moorehead. Moorehead could be leaving to be Pope. It wouldn't change the impact to PSU's offense next year.
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