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OT: Nate Oats...anyone following this story?

Yeah, I'm seeing it trending on Twitter. That's just sick.

I don't know how the Miller kid doesn't get charged with something and how the heck is he still playing after that.
 
I don’t know Nate Oats, but am I crazy for thinking that he seems like the kind of guy who might be down for a cover up.
 
Yeah, I'm seeing it trending on Twitter. That's just sick.

I don't know how the Miller kid doesn't get charged with something and how the heck is he still playing after that.
“We knew about that. Can’t control everything everybody does outside of practice. Nobody knew that was going to happen. College kids are out, Brandon hasn’t been in any type of trouble nor is he in any type of trouble in this case. Wrong spot at the wrong time,” Oats said.

Nobody knew what was going to happen, when someone is asked to bring a gun to some friends? And he is not in any kind of trouble? Oats is delusional.
 
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If my buddy wants his gun, I'm gunna give him his gun. If that's what happened
 
“We knew about that. Can’t control everything everybody does outside of practice. Nobody knew that was going to happen. College kids are out, Brandon hasn’t been in any type of trouble nor is he in any type of trouble in this case. Wrong spot at the wrong time,” Oats said.

Nobody knew what was going to happen, when someone is asked to bring a gun to some friends? And he is not in any kind of trouble? Oats is delusional.

Perhaps he (Miller) thought his friends were being bullied or in some sort of danger and wanted the gun for protection. That's entirely possible.

I don't know if that was the case or not, but I find that to be more plausible than Davis & Miles conveying the message of "This girl won't talk to me. Bring my gun. I'm going to kill her". I highly doubt that thought ever crossed Miller's mind as a possibility of what was actually going down.

If the police aren't going to charge him, and Miller has been honest and cooperative with the investigation, I don't think he should be booted just to satisfy public outrage (which probably wouldn't exist if he were an average player on an average team)

Still though, not a good response from Oats. Horrible, tbh.
 
Perhaps he (Miller) thought his friends were being bullied or in some sort of danger and wanted the gun for protection. That's entirely possible.

I don't know if that was the case or not, but I find that to be more plausible than Davis & Miles conveying the message of "This girl won't talk to me. Bring my gun. I'm going to kill her". I highly doubt that thought ever crossed Miller's mind as a possibility of what was actually going down.

If the police aren't going to charge him, and Miller has been honest and cooperative with the investigation, I don't think he should be booted just to satisfy public outrage (which probably wouldn't exist if he were an average player on an average team)

Still though, not a good response from Oats. Horrible, tbh.
If the friends were in danger, the response is to call the police, not call someone to bring them a gun. That makes no sense.
 
Perhaps he (Miller) thought his friends were being bullied or in some sort of danger and wanted the gun for protection. That's entirely possible.

I don't know if that was the case or not, but I find that to be more plausible than Davis & Miles conveying the message of "This girl won't talk to me. Bring my gun. I'm going to kill her". I highly doubt that thought ever crossed Miller's mind as a possibility of what was actually going down.

If the police aren't going to charge him, and Miller has been honest and cooperative with the investigation, I don't think he should be booted just to satisfy public outrage (which probably wouldn't exist if he were an average player on an average team)

Still though, not a good response from Oats. Horrible, tbh.
🤨 you're a high profile player with NBA aspirations and active NIL deals. You don't get a loaded gun and take it to your teammate.

Staying out of trouble should have been drilled into his head by his handlers and advisers. Alabama is pro athlete factory. Their athletes should be aware of staying out of trouble
 
If the friends were in danger, the response is to call the police, not call someone to bring them a gun. That makes no sense.

Sure, calling the police would be the correct response if they were in danger. But there are a lot of things people their age do that doesn't make sense. A lot of young people their age/color are much more likely to take matters into their own hands before calling the police. That's just reality.
 
🤨 you're a high profile player with NBA aspirations and active NIL deals. You don't get a loaded gun and take it to your teammate.

Staying out of trouble should have been drilled into his head by his handlers and advisers. Alabama is pro athlete factory. Their athletes should be aware of staying out of trouble

Do you think NBA players don't carry guns?
 
“We knew about that. Can’t control everything everybody does outside of practice. Nobody knew that was going to happen. College kids are out, Brandon hasn’t been in any type of trouble nor is he in any type of trouble in this case. Wrong spot at the wrong time,” Oats said.

Nobody knew what was going to happen, when someone is asked to bring a gun to some friends? And he is not in any kind of trouble? Oats is delusional.

"What do you expect me to do, hold these kids accountable for a murder that happened off the court?"
 
If you all are keeping up to date. It says Miller, Miles and another guy was in the car together at time of shootimg, and the car they was in blocked the young lady and boyfriend"s car.

Now if this is true, how Miller and the driver of the car is not charged, makes no sense. There is something really bad going on here.
 
Okay. But was Miller directly involved in a confrontation? Is he in any trouble, or charged with anything?
That is the issue here, he apparently is not in any trouble. Oats said he was in the wrong place at the wrong time. He took a gun to his buddy - without him doing that, there is no murder.
 
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That is the issue here, he apparently is not in any trouble. Oats said he was in the wrong place at the wrong time. He took a gun to his buddy - without him doing that, there is no murder.

The guy could have went and got it himself if he declined. But I'm interested to see if this is a crime. I dont see how its not a crime to hand-deliver a person's gun to him that is used in a murder that night.
 
The guy could have went and got it himself if he declined. But I'm interested to see if this is a crime. I dont see how its not a crime to hand-deliver a person's gun to him that is used in a murder that night.
That is my point, the kid had a chance to decline to bring the gun, and he didn’t. He put himself in the middle of the situation, whatever it was. Adding a gun to whatever was happening was not likely to end well, and it didn’t.
 
That is my point, the kid had a chance to decline to bring the gun, and he didn’t. He put himself in the middle of the situation, whatever it was. Adding a gun to whatever was happening was not likely to end well, and it didn’t.
Since when has common sense got in the way of this Constitutional right?

The guy wanted his 2nd amendment that no longer needed to require a permit, what right would Miller have in refusing it?
 
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Since when has common sense got in the way of this Constitutional right?

The guy wanted his 2nd amendment that no longer needed to require a permit, what right would Miller have in refusing it?

I think the wording in the texts matters. Had he said "hey, I'm feeling unsafe right now on The Strip, can you bring my gun" that's ok. If he said, "things are about to go down, bring my gun," that's much different. The 2nd implies an intent of using it in a matter which doesn't appear to be self-defense.
 
Yeah, I'm seeing it trending on Twitter. That's just sick.

I don't know how the Miller kid doesn't get charged with something and how the heck is he still playing after that.
I don't know if Miller committed a crime. The other kid was charged with accessory to murder, since he provided the weapon to the accused murderer. Miller is "accessory to the accessory of murder" which is not a crime.
 
I think the wording in the texts matters. Had he said "hey, I'm feeling unsafe right now on The Strip, can you bring my gun" that's ok. If he said, "things are about to go down, bring my gun," that's much different. The 2nd implies an intent of using it in a matter which doesn't appear to be self-defense.
I am not a lawyer, but it is not self-defense if you call someone and ask them to bring you a gun. If you can call someone, you can get out of the situation, or you can call the police. Asking someone to bring you a gun is not an act of self-defense.
 
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I am not a lawyer, but it is not self-defense if you call someone and ask them to bring you a gun. If you can call someone, you can get out of the situation, or you can call the police. Asking someone to bring you a gun is not an act of self-defense.
As the police said, there is nothing they can charge Miller with. He didn't know how things were going to play out. Miles asked Miller to bring his gun to him. (all legal, and Miles was the gun owner) Also, Miles was the guy that got the gun out of Miller's car and gave it to Davis.
 
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Was this guy a legal gun owner? If not,
He should be hit with enough charges to put him away for along time.
 
If this is true, and I assume it is based on who was charged and who wasn't, this should put a lot of this to bed.

This isn't anything Nate Oats could possibly cover up. The police are going to know everything they need to know long before Nate Oats any info. And for a murder case, the decision on discipline for Miller wouldn't be left up to Nate Oats anyway.

 
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