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OT; our endowmwent

Pitt should take all $3.5 Billion from the endowment and build the best stadium in history with it. It is a win-win.
 
Paco - Interesting stats. Isn’t the type of investment limited with these funds? Why huge differences on the % between schools?

Pitt got most of that money back.

The return on endowment has exceeded the national average for universities almost every single year. And this has been done with a much smaller and lower paid investment team than many peers. Amy Marsh is an underpaid rockstar...recruited under Nordenberg in 1999 from Mellon Bank.

Public Endowments Ranked by 10yr Annualized Returns 2005 – 2014

Endowment 10yr Returns (%) 2005 – 2014 10yr Std Dev (%) 10yr Sharpe Ratio AUM $bn 30 Jun 2014
Yale Private Equity 15.4 NA NA NA
Cambridge PE Index 13.7 NA NA NA
Yale Endowment 11.0 15.30 0.66 23.90
1 U of Virginia/UVIMCO 10.8 13.21 0.72 6.95
2
U of Michigan 10.0 14.34 0.62 9.70
3
U of No. Carolina/ UNCMC 9.2 12.08 0.69 2.64
Harvard U/HMC 8.9 15.50 0.59 36.40
4 Michigan State U 8.4 12.02 0.59 2.15
5
U of Pittsburgh 8.3 12.99 0.54 3.49
6
Pennsylvania State U 8.3 12.79 0.54 3.54
NCSE>$1 bil 8.2 12.73 0.59 NA
7 U of Washington 8.0 13.60 0.50 2.83
S&P 500 7.9 17.51 0.36 NA
8 U of Texas/ UTIMCO 7.9 9.84 0.66 25.70
60/40 Stock/Bond 7.9 10.50 0.60 NA
9 Purdue U 7.7 13.23 0.47 2.44
10
U Minnesota OIB & Fdn 7.5 NA NA 3.27
11
U of California System 7.4 11.77 0.49 13.14
12
U Wisconsin Fdn 7.4 NA NA 2.33
13
Indiana U 7.3 14.39 0.41 1.94
14
U of Nebraska Fdn 7.1 13.10 0.43 1.60
NCSE Mean 7.1 NA NA NA
15 U of Illinois Fdn 6.8 12.98 0.41 1.46
Bridgewater AWF 6.7 13.85 0.35 75.00
Barclay’s Agg Bond 5.9 4.88 0.77 NA
16 Ohio State U 5.4 13.22 0.30 3.40
HFR HF Fund of Funds 3.4 NA NA NA

source: http://www.allaboutalpha.com/blog/2015/04/30/32773/
 
Paco - Interesting stats. Isn’t the type of investment limited with these funds? Why huge differences on the % between schools?
Only the prudent man rule applies, and the fund must spend a specified amount each year....around 4.5% these days? Some endowments make use of more aggressive investments than others. Typically, there's an Investment Committee of the Board given the responsibility, with some full-time staffers and outside managers.
 
Headline:

Connecticut Politicians Want to Tax Yale Endowment

States spend, spend, spend, so watch out nothings safe although this was dropped.
Deemed not to be one of the politicians better ideas.


 
The art of politics is raising money from the rich to keep the poor people away from them and soliciting votes from poor people by telling them they will tax the rich to help them!
 
Paco - Interesting stats. Isn’t the type of investment limited with these funds? Why huge differences on the % between schools?

There are all sorts of statutes governing charitable endowments, but the type of investments these pooled endowment funds are invested into are generally limited by a university's policies (e.g. schools can have internal policies against investing in fossil fuels, etc). The reason there is a difference in returns between schools is the same reason you have different returns between different mutual funds (or any other investment funds). Some funds do better than others, and Pitt's endowment pool fund has outperformed most because it has been managed better than most.

Pennsylvania law governs the minimum and maximum percentage of the principal that can be distributed each year (between 2% and 7%) and how things are pooled and what the principal can be distributed for (i.e. donor's intent/wishes), but as far as I know, not so much how it is invested (other than general fiduciary requirements that investments be consistent with the long-term preservation of the real value of the endowment fund's principal.)
 
The art of politics is raising money from the rich to keep the poor people away from them and soliciting votes from poor people by telling them they will tax the rich to help them!

Sounds like Hillary's ability to completly bs people even when Bernie is pointing out her Wall Street contributions on the national stage.
 
No need to offer rebuttals to Del on this subject. His comments do all of the work for you for all here on the PantherLair to see loudly and clearly. It's regrettable that he and only one other can't see that.
He and one other- you're deluded if you think that opinion on this board is representative of the general views of this bum's record.
 
More schools than ever are de-emphasizing athletics, Del.

It's become an arms race that maybe 20 schools are capable of actually competing in.

TV deals, of course, have infused money into the landscape but these schools aren't dipping heavily into University funds to run athletics. Schools are cutting their football teams rather than going further into the red to fund a sport that their fans are unwilling to or incapable of supporting.

Perhaps if Pitt's fans gave the administration the means to spend more, they would. However, Pittsburgh fans are nothing if not entitled when it comes to their sports.
What power 5 conference schools are scaling back their investment in athletics generally and FB in particular?
 
What power 5 conference schools are scaling back their investment in athletics generally and FB in particular?

What P5 schools are emphasizing athletics above and beyond the lucrative amounts of cash they get from their TV deals?

Schools are spending in lockstep with the TV money they bring in.

Look no further than Pitt. They spent more money this year than they have in years, despite Gallagher allocating less money to the athletic department than Nordenberg did.

Why?

ACC TV revenue. Nothing more, nothing less.

The schools who spend above and beyond their TV money aren't dipping into the school's general fund to do it. They're using money from boosters and donors.

And if a school doesn't have a big TV deal? Well, more schools than ever are considering cutting football. And it's because sports aren't ACTUALLY that important to a University and its operations.
 
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Must agree with Del. The fact that only 3% of our alumni donate to the athletic department speaks volumes. If that isn't an indictment of the long-term incompetence of our University's athletic department I'm not sure what is.
 
you're a dummy pure and simple.
If you're the judge.....I'm a genius. All you do is brag about yourself and complain because 2 guys who don't do what you think is right....are more successful. Did Pitt interview for Gallagher's job??
Big hat, no cattle.
 
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I have spoken to too many PITT alumni over the years who have moved on without any involvement with PITT athletics. Sorry but the athletic department has turned off more than one generation of PITT fans. Hopefully the new regime can finally get it right.
 
I have spoken to too many PITT alumni over the years who have moved on without any involvement with PITT athletics. Sorry but the athletic department has turned off more than one generation of PITT fans. Hopefully the new regime can finally get it right.

Our fanbase is easily rattled.
 
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If you're the judge.....I'm a genius. All you do is brag about yourself and complain because 2 guys who don't do what you think is right....are more successful. Did Pitt interview for Gallagher's job??
Big hat, no cattle.
Always cranky, always. Relax and take a deep breath.....sheesh.
 
I didn't think you would give me your credentials......that is ok Del I believe you, I mean every genius uses "dummy" and other buzzwords when they speak
Hey, three grad degrees, phi beta kappa, summa cum laude and full paid fellowship to grad school- yours idiot?
 
What P5 schools are emphasizing athletics above and beyond the lucrative amounts of cash they get from their TV deals?

Schools are spending in lockstep with the TV money they bring in.

Look no further than Pitt. They spent more money this year than they have in years, despite Gallagher allocating less money to the athletic department than Nordenberg did.

Why?

ACC TV revenue. Nothing more, nothing less.

The schools who spend above and beyond their TV money aren't dipping into the school's general fund to do it. They're using money from boosters and donors.

And if a school doesn't have a big TV deal? Well, more schools than ever are considering cutting football. And it's because sports aren't ACTUALLY that important to a University and its operations.
This is pushing a very false narrative. Schools in power conferences aren't even thinking about thinking about cutting football. Not only are they huge money makers, they provide fantastic marketing, even if the school sucks at football and basketball. Ridiculous to compare that to lower division schools (certainly in athletics, but almost universally in academics, as well) thinking about cutting football because they can't afford not to cut it.
 
This is pushing a very false narrative. Schools in power conferences aren't even thinking about thinking about cutting football. Not only are they huge money makers, they provide fantastic marketing, even if the school sucks at football and basketball. Ridiculous to compare that to lower division schools (certainly in athletics, but almost universally in academics, as well) thinking about cutting football because they can't afford not to cut it.

Watch that TV money dry up, and other than the SEC schools and some select B1G/B12/ACC schools, they'll cut football. P5 schools are funding their athletics with TV money and donations. They aren't footing the bill with University resources.
 
Watch that TV money dry up, and other than the SEC schools and some select B1G/B12/ACC schools, they'll cut football. P5 schools are funding their athletics with TV money and donations. They aren't footing the bill with University resources.
No.
 
Idiot is another one, I also forgot dope....Your vocabulary is incredible for a "genius"
You're the guy who started the name calling - that's an incontrovertible fact. You are representative of the folks on this board who assail people personally when you disagree with them. And I knew you'd change the subject because you'd be embarrassed. I tried to warn you, Clarence.
 
Profound as always.

About time to start a thread about trimming the fat off the rosters among the redshirt freshmen, isn't it?
You think schools, who are bringing in tens of millions of dollars, are going to see money dry up so much that they cut football. I don't need to be profound. Your argument is ludicrous.
 
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