Not clear whether he will join the ACC or accept a new contract at Penn State. If I had to guess, I’d have to say he picks the Irish given his Indiana roots. We’ll see…
OT: Shrewsberry in talks with Notre Dame
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Shrewsbury clearly elevated the basketball program in Center County, but I'm not sure there is any reward for him to remain there as their HC. PSU is not a basketball school and probably never will be. ND might be another stepping stone for Micah
Shrewsbury clearly elevated the basketball program in Center County, but I'm not sure there is any reward for him to remain there as their HC. PSU is not a basketball school and probably never will be. ND might be another stepping stone for Micah
You raise a good point… let’s say his dream job is Purdue. Does Notre Dame or Penn State set you up nicer to land that job? One of them has him returning to Indiana, while the other keeps him in Big Ten country which has a much stronger presence in the Hoosier State.
I think winning at PSU in the B10 is the bigger challenge. He caught lightning in a bottle with the best 3 point shooting team in the country. The ACC is a very weak coach's league. He can win consistently at ND.
The ACC 12 is in desperate need of coaches. Its a 2-3 bid conference within a conference with few Q1 opportunities
I dont think you even understand my premise. The ACC has limited NCAAT bids. Duke, UNC, and UVa will gobble up 3 almost every year. That leaves 12 teams fighting for 2-3 bids. How do you not get that?
Oh ok, so you disagree that the ACC has 12 teams fighting for 2-3 bids even though that's the truth. I got it. The ACC 12 get 6-7 bids.
Just because the ACC is down this year, doesn’t mean it’s always going to be that way.
He maxed out penn states potential as a bball program this year. Time to get out and paid while he can.
No, he (and everyone else) gets your point and he's telling you are a moron.
Absolutely! With the recent head coaching departures from Duke, North Carolina, Syracuse, and now Notre Dame; that's a lot of experience and name recognition. Capel & company need to strike now while the iron is hot. No need for good coach like him to come in and interrupt the progress.
With any kind of decent offer he has to go. He is in a vast wasteland basketball wise where he is at now.
I think the potential for their program is there; they’re a football school with near unlimited resources to throw at it (the SEC is a good example of this blueprint) and have access to the northeast.
However, the SEC was pretty weak and saw several football schools’ basketball programs rise at the same time. The Big Ten is an established basketball conference and the mountain to climb is much higher at PSU.
Ok. You guys disagree that there are 12 ACC teams fighting for 2-3 bids then? I don't understand how anyone would disagree with that. I could see someone who doesnt agree with the way I categorize the teams but if you look back at recent history and going forward with the lack of good coaches in this league and what the B10, B12, and SEC have, I dont think anyone can deny that you have a group of 12 ACC teams fighting for 2-3 bids.
Well probably because historic trending shows something different (slightly) than what you have said. Since 2014, the ACC at worst got 6 teams or more in to the tourney. This year was the sole exception.
Yeah, sure you could presume the big three will always get a bid (but UNC didn’t this year and that is why we only had 5). Historically in last decade you would have to expand your range from 2-3 bids to 3-6 bids. When the league was smaller the max bids were 7.
I don’t know that you can argue the league is diminishing.
The non big three teams fighting for just 2-3 bids is a slight stretch. Oddly you could argue that Pitt’s fortunes do not seem to be tied to the league that much. We got in this year over other teams who had legit arguments. It almost feels like if Pitt looks good then the committee likes us. Probably same with Cuse. I do not think most pundits look at us as true ACC teams. I think that helps.
Since the league expanded, these are the ACC 12 bids by year:
2014: 3 (Pitt, Syr, NC St)
2015: 3 (ND, Lou, NC St)
2016: 4 (Pitt, Syr, Miami, ND)
2017: 6
2018: 6
2019: 4
2020: no tournament
2021: 5
2022: 3
2023: 3
The ACC 12 has only gotten 50% in twice since expansion. That's really bad.
This century the ACC has only gotten 50% of the teams in 7 times. You are trying to create trends from data that simply don’t exist. You aren’t way off, but you are off a bit.
What does that have to do with the fact that you inaccurately characterized the ACCs historic number of bids?
he was 14-17 in 2021-22 up there and and within 3 points (against a vastly overrated Illinois team) of going to the NIT this year, let's not turn him into Bobby Knight just yet...
and yet in the last 10 years 4 different ACC schools won it all and nary a Big 10 team seen anywhere (as a not so bright man once said, That's really bad)
what is acc 12? You could go through each conference, takes out the best teams and do this same analysis and make the same argument.
The non-blue bloods who go to the tournament every year. Yes, you can do that for Kentucky and Kansas. Michigan St in Big Ten. But the ACC has 3 who hog the bids. Not enough slots for the ACC 12
Of course you can, which is why the argument is so dumb.
Given the poster making the claims, on point. But dumb.
Calling UVA a blue blood is more than a bit of a stretch. Since 1995, they have 2 Elite 8 appearances and 1 Final 4. That is 27 years. They have been to the NCAA tournament 12 times in those 27 years. Pitt has been to the tournament 14 times, in those 27 years. Is Pitt or UVA in your ACC 12?
I mean, yea, UVa isnt a true blue blood. But they are going to make the NCAAT 9 times in a 10 year period as long as Bennett is there. That's why I throw them in. Duke, UNC, and UVa hog 3 bids (most years) while the ACC 12 fight for just a few.
There is no such thing as an ACC 12. It’s like in Mean Girls when the one chick keeps saying Fetch. And the leader of The Pack says that is not a thing. Just stop. Lol.
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