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OT: Top local markets for SB LVII

Surprised to see Detroit there, when the Lions have barely been relevant for generations.
I live in the Metro Detroit area, I think the sheer amount of people having money riding on the game bumped up the number. The Detroit media market is ground zero for sports betting app advertising, not only do the three Detroit casinos have deals with sports betting apps, all of the casinos on Indian land also have them. Every commercial break be it over the air, cable or streaming no matter what your watching will have a spot for Bet MGM, Caesars Sportsbook, Fan Duel, PointsBet, Bet Rivers, or Draft Kings, with the occasional Wynn Bet or Golden Nugget commercials. Also every third billboard is for a sports book app, with the others being for legal weed and personal injury lawyers.
 
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Easier to make the list if a smaller city with a lot of football fans. Surprised Green Bay isn't in top 5.
 
Can't be true, certain posters tell us every year that the NFL is dying and irrelevant because it's too woke now
 
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I live in the Metro Detroit area, I think the sheer amount of people having money riding on the game bumped up the number. The Detroit media market is ground zero for sports betting app advertising, not only do the three Detroit casinos have deals with sports betting apps, all of the casinos on Indian land also have them. Every commercial break be it over the air, cable or streaming no matter what your watching will have a spot for Bet MGM, Caesars Sportsbook, Fan Duel, PointsBet, Bet Rivers, or Draft Kings, with the occasional Wynn Bet or Golden Nugget commercials. Also every third billboard is for a sports book app, with the others being for legal weed and personal injury lawyers.
Sounds exactly like Pittsburgh, minus the legal weed billboards.
 
Pittsburgh checks in at #5. Also, God bless Detroit. They deserve a Super Bowl someday.
PIT deserves a SuperBowl, or at LEAST an NFL Draft. The fact that Vegas has had a draft and a Superbowl and hasn't been an NFL city for half a decade is sinful. Pittsburgh should host something. Even the Pens got a draft and an all star weekend. I don't think the NFL is very good to the pit market. Pittsburgh is a given and, therefore, ignored.
 
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PIT deserves a SuperBowl, or at LEAST an NFL Draft. The fact that Vegas has had a draft and a Superbowl and hasn't been an NFL city for half a decade is sinful. Pittsburgh should host something. Even the Pens got a draft and an all star weekend. I don't think the NFL is very good to the pit market. Pittsburgh is a given and, therefore, ignored.
I don’t think Pittsburgh will ever get a Super Bowl (outdoor stadium, not enough hotel rooms, lack of public transit), but I think we could definitely host the NFL Draft. I could picture them putting the stage at the point and everyone gathering in front, similar to the Pens Cup parades in the 90s.
 
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I'm a bit old school, but I preferred when the draft was in NYC every year. It felt bigger even though it was in a smaller venue.

I'm priced out of the Super Bowl. If I wasn't, I have zero desire to go to a cold-weather city for one. I went to Detroit and Dallas. It was freezing in Detroit and snowed in Dallas. Give me Arizona, Tampa, New Orleans, or any other warm destination city. It's just like us wanting Pitt to land in a Florida bowl game.
 
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Can't be true, certain posters tell us every year that the NFL is dying and irrelevant because it's too woke now
Yea I’m guessing a lot of people didn’t follow thru on their promise to “never watch another NFL game again”
 
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I don’t think Pittsburgh will ever get a Super Bowl (outdoor stadium, not enough hotel rooms, lack of public transit), but I think we could definitely host the NFL Draft. I could picture them putting the stage at the point and everyone gathering in front, similar to the Pens Cup parades in the 90s.

If it had a dome, they would get one. Guaranteed. Minneapolis, Detroit, and Indy got them.
 
I wasn't broadly generalizing so one of us was mistaken.
Why so angry that you’d have to politicize the thread above? Nobody tunes out of the Super Bowl for disgust over wokeness. Especially not in the two cities with teams in the game, and the next three incredibly Democratic dominated cities. If anything people in those cities didn’t think things were Woke enough. And most things that are Woke are perfectly legitimate. I agree totally with equality, fairness, MeToo etc etc that are the themes of every other message. If companies feel it’s good business to make that the message, and they must, then great. For most, it’s all mostly noise (and bathroom/food breaks) until the action resumes again.

Your con-baiting post above was unnecessary that’s all. It’s like progressives that disdain the concept the actual meaning of Christmas but happily take the national holiday; cons like football, especially the Super Bowl, and will endure the nonsense around it for the game itself.
 
Detroit is actually a pretty good sports town. I spent a lot of time up there and they've had success in other sports besides football. I think the ownership has been mostly terrible and that always hurts. I think they have the right coach, now, but we'll see.
I always had a soft spot for the Lions. I hope they stay on track and keep getting better.
 
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I always had a soft spot for the Lions. I hope they stay on track and keep getting better.
The stretch of futility for the Lions is amazing and makes The Browns seem like the Patriots in comparison. They were plagued by Matt Millen’s amusing buffoonery for many years, but they were patsies before and after that period. Some is just bad luck but you can only blame that so long. In a 30 year swing they’ve had some great talent too , especially at RB and WR and DT. Familiar story. Bad coach and/or bad QB have been the gist of most of their problems
 
Why so angry that you’d have to politicize the thread above? Nobody tunes out of the Super Bowl for disgust over wokeness. Especially not in the two cities with teams in the game, and the next three incredibly Democratic dominated cities. If anything people in those cities didn’t think things were Woke enough. And most things that are Woke are perfectly legitimate. I agree totally with equality, fairness, MeToo etc etc that are the themes of every other message. If companies feel it’s good business to make that the message, and they must, then great. For most, it’s all mostly noise (and bathroom/food breaks) until the action resumes again.

Your con-baiting post above was unnecessary that’s all. It’s like progressives that disdain the concept the actual meaning of Christmas but happily take the national holiday; cons like football, especially the Super Bowl, and will endure the nonsense around it for the game itself.
You were the one who brought politics into this, arguing that the top five cities, which included Kansas City, were “desperately liberal.” Don’t get my thread locked, all due respect.
 
You were the one who brought politics into this thread, arguing that the top five cities, which included Kansas City, were “desperately liberal.” Don’t get my thread locked, all due respect.
You and your compatriot were gloating that numbers suggest con’s didn’t tune out of the game over wokeness. You are clearly at fault. I corrected your factual mistake, and you didn’t like it. Sorry to have ruined your day. Carry on.
 
If it had a dome, they would get one. Guaranteed. Minneapolis, Detroit, and Indy got them.
If Pittsburgh had a dome, maybe they’d get it as a favor to the Rooney’s. However, it’d have to be after the Lower Hill and a few other developments finished so that we’d get close to the hotel room minimum.
 
You and your compatriot were gloating that numbers suggest con’s didn’t tune out of the game over wokeness. You are clearly at fault. I corrected your factual mistake, and you didn’t like it. Sorry to have ruined your day. Carry on.
Please show me where I posted about anything other than the original post and whether Pittsburgh could host a Super Bowl. TIA.

Edit: on second thought, you’re obviously looking to instigate. Forget it. Have a nice day.
 
If Pittsburgh had a dome, maybe they’d get it as a favor to the Rooney’s. However, it’d have to be after the Lower Hill and a few other developments finished so that we’d get close to the hotel room minimum.
Hotels, mass transit (lack thereof) and awful road system would be stumbling blocks. But, as you mention, the Rooneys would get the nod for it, if there was a dome.

I’ll add that I mostly am glad there is no dome here, most dome stadiums simply can’t seem to be done very well; in fact most seem to be abominations… and Football in Pittsburgh should be outdoors. But despite the difficulties noted, I think it would be a blast for the city to host a SB.
 
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Please show me where I posted about anything other than the original post and whether Pittsburgh could host a Super Bowl. TIA.

Edit: on second thought, you’re obviously looking to instigate. Forget it. Have a nice day.
You personally didn’t post, so I apologize for insinuating you did. It was the CJ and BH somethings above
 
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Why so angry that you’d have to politicize the thread above? Nobody tunes out of the Super Bowl for disgust over wokeness. Especially not in the two cities with teams in the game, and the next three incredibly Democratic dominated cities. If anything people in those cities didn’t think things were Woke enough. And most things that are Woke are perfectly legitimate. I agree totally with equality, fairness, MeToo etc etc that are the themes of every other message. If companies feel it’s good business to make that the message, and they must, then great. For most, it’s all mostly noise (and bathroom/food breaks) until the action resumes again.

Your con-baiting post above was unnecessary that’s all. It’s like progressives that disdain the concept the actual meaning of Christmas but happily take the national holiday; cons like football, especially the Super Bowl, and will endure the nonsense around it for the game itself.
Dude, don't be such a snowflake. Nobody, and I mean nobody, attempted to inject any of that nonsense into this thread except you. All i did was point out KC didn't fit your attempt at casting a broad net over some TV ratings.

But nice job contradicting the comment I responded to in that last paragraph. Made it all worth it.
 
Dude, don't be such a snowflake. Nobody, and I mean nobody, attempted to inject any of that nonsense into this thread except you. All i did was point out KC didn't fit your attempt at casting a broad net over some TV ratings.

But nice job contradicting the comment I responded to in that last paragraph. Made it all worth it.
Yes. And then I checkmated with the point that KC was a team in the game, so would have large viewership regardless of their sensitively to wokeness, because interest in football and one’s team trumps (sorry to trigger you) all that.

You and your friend above thought you would take shots at your perceived bogeyman, and you got burned. Sorry to have ruined your day by it. I took my W with my customary class and grace and have moved on.
 
Hotels, mass transit (lack thereof) and awful road system would be stumbling blocks. But, as you mention, the Rooneys would get the nod for it, if there was a dome.

I’ll add that I mostly am glad there is no dome here, most dome stadiums simply can’t seem to be done very well; in fact most seem to be abominations… and Football in Pittsburgh should be outdoors. But despite the difficulties noted, I think it would be a blast for the city to host a SB.
The only dome that appears to actually be nice is the one they have in Minnesota. I'll even include the retractable roof stadiums. Most look terrible.
 
Why so angry that you’d have to politicize the thread above? Nobody tunes out of the Super Bowl for disgust over wokeness. Especially not in the two cities with teams in the game, and the next three incredibly Democratic dominated cities. If anything people in those cities didn’t think things were Woke enough. And most things that are Woke are perfectly legitimate. I agree totally with equality, fairness, MeToo etc etc that are the themes of every other message. If companies feel it’s good business to make that the message, and they must, then great. For most, it’s all mostly noise (and bathroom/food breaks) until the action resumes again.

Your con-baiting post above was unnecessary that’s all. It’s like progressives that disdain the concept the actual meaning of Christmas but happily take the national holiday; cons like football, especially the Super Bowl, and will endure the nonsense around it for the game itself.

Can we stop with the "nobody watches the NFL because a couple guys kneeled 5 years ago?" The NFL literally lost 13 fans because of that. Americans cant get enough of the NFL. There is just about nothing the NFL can do to get people to not watch. Honestly, if an NFL player came to your house every Sunday and punched you in the face, that wouldn't even stop you from watching. The NFL is America. The NHL is Canada. Soccer is England, Mexico, etc. They are national pastimes. People arent going to stop watching for political reasons. That's ridiculous
 
The only dome that appears to actually be nice is the one they have in Minnesota. I'll even include the retractable roof stadiums. Most look terrible.
What I find interesting is that a lot of these newer stadiums (Los Angeles, Las Vegas, soon to be Nashville) are moving away from retractable roofs in favor of translucent roofs. I get that Vegas technically has an endzone “window” that can open up, but most are no longer seeing the value in spending extra money for opening up the stadium only a handful of times (e.g., games, concerts) per year.

The translucent lets in natural light while reducing the cost of construction. Win-win I suppose.
 
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What I find interesting is that a lot of these newer stadiums (Los Angeles, Las Vegas, soon to be Nashville) are moving away from retractable roofs in favor of translucent roofs. I get that Vegas technically has an endzone “window” that can open up, but most are no longer seeing the value in spending extra money for opening up the stadium only a handful of times (e.g., games, concerts) per year.

The translucent lets in natural light while reducing the cost of construction. Win-win I suppose.
Retractable roofs are a complete waste of money. They rarely open the roof and it nearly doubles the cost compared to a fixed structure. Minnesota did it right. Vegas is dark and doesn't have that same open feel. LA is an open-air stadium with a roof and we saw the issues with that in the title game this year. The Titans proposal looks interesting. If that gets done, I have a feeling it will get scaled back. Overall, I do like the natural light feel if you're stuck playing in a dome.
 
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I guess people will keep trying, but weren't their issues (wind and audio/sound problems) when opening the retractable roof of the Civic Arena? I'm talking even before the expansion and additions that made it virtually impossible to open the roof.
 
Yes. And then I checkmated with the point that KC was a team in the game, so would have large viewership regardless of their sensitively to wokeness, because interest in football and one’s team trumps (sorry to trigger you) all that.

You and your friend above thought you would take shots at your perceived bogeyman, and you got burned. Sorry to have ruined your day by it. I took my W with my customary class and grace and have moved on.
Yeah, I could honestly care less what someone's political affiliation is when it comes to sports. Not sure why you had to inject it into the conversation. Try not to be so sensitive about these sorts of things.
 
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