PA just started allowing beer sales at convenience stores a few years ago, i never knew what i was missing. being able to buy "roadies" is fantastic..
OT: What's up with Sheetz?
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The biggest reason that gas prices in PA are relatively high is that PA has the 3rd highest gas tax in the country. Of course gas is going to cost more here than places that tax gas at a quarter or more less per gallon.
The older of those two stations is probably not more than about 20 years old, it was expanded when they started selling beer to add cooler space and a sit down space for people to drink their 40, and this summer they are tearing the whole thing down so they can completely rebuild bigger on the same site.
The average price of a gallon of gas in South Carolina is $2.89. South Carolina’s gas tax is thirty cents less per gallon than PA’s. By my calculation the average price of gas in PA should be $3.19.
NJ has Quickchek too. There’s a bit of a Wawa vs Quickchek rivalry, but not on the Wawa vs Sheetz scale.
Many Sheetz locations have EV DC fast charging stations, and I've been of the opinion that a business like Sheetz and Wawa is one of the better places for them.
The reasons being:
Many of the locations are built in close proximity to an Interstate exit
The stores are open 24/7
The parking lots are busy and well lit.
There are a bunch of Giant Eagles with EV DC fast chargers; but if you are on a road trip and don't need to shop for groceries it isn't the best place to kill time. If you are traveling when they are closed for the day you can be visibly the only car in an otherwise empty parking lot.
There are fast chargers at some larger shopping malls, and during business hours, I'd rate them as the best place to kill some time while charging. Take a lap around the mall to check out what stores are there; and when you're done you can unplug and go. But once again, if you are traveling at night, you are probably sitting in your car, in an empty parking lot, visible to anyone looking to take advantage of someone in that situation.
EV fast charge times are dropping as charging thermal management and battery chemistry improves. Until charge to 80% times are sub 10 minutes, if I were traveling in an EV at night I would want to charge somewhere that I can leave my car if the chargers are in an isolated area and sit in a staffed business so as not to be an open target for robbery or worse.
The reasons being:
Many of the locations are built in close proximity to an Interstate exit
The stores are open 24/7
The parking lots are busy and well lit.
There are a bunch of Giant Eagles with EV DC fast chargers; but if you are on a road trip and don't need to shop for groceries it isn't the best place to kill time. If you are traveling when they are closed for the day you can be visibly the only car in an otherwise empty parking lot.
There are fast chargers at some larger shopping malls, and during business hours, I'd rate them as the best place to kill some time while charging. Take a lap around the mall to check out what stores are there; and when you're done you can unplug and go. But once again, if you are traveling at night, you are probably sitting in your car, in an empty parking lot, visible to anyone looking to take advantage of someone in that situation.
EV fast charge times are dropping as charging thermal management and battery chemistry improves. Until charge to 80% times are sub 10 minutes, if I were traveling in an EV at night I would want to charge somewhere that I can leave my car if the chargers are in an isolated area and sit in a staffed business so as not to be an open target for robbery or worse.
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I've seen our long-snapper dad at those chargers on 2 different Pitt road trips. I agree that Sheetz is the best place for them. I am done charging by the time I'm done eating most of the time. Gas stations are a natural place to have chargers. I think I've charged at every type of location imaginable. None as stressful as a parking garage in Queens at literally 1% at like 1AM. You had to pay to enter the parking garage which kinda sucked.
It's almost as if there is more to the price of gas than just the tax.
Huh. Who knew?
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When Shits moves into an area they undercut any existing gas station till they go out of business. Once that happens they have a monopoly on the local market and raise the price. If another nearby market has competition for shits the price can be 20-30cents difference
with less than 15 miles apart.
Placed like Portage, Cresson, Johnstown, Nanty
Glo, Patton, Glitizen, and allot of others have
lost thousands of jobs because of Shits.
with less than 15 miles apart.
Placed like Portage, Cresson, Johnstown, Nanty
Glo, Patton, Glitizen, and allot of others have
lost thousands of jobs because of Shits.
Thousands of high paying gas station jobs in that list from West Central Pa's Meth Valley? Seems to me the three out of work Pakistani dudes who were manning the now closed nasty gas station store throughout the day can find work at the Sheetz making MTOs for the same coin if not more..
Wait, you think there's a giant conspiracy to fleece PA motorist with high gas prices and it's led by Sheetz?
The only people fleecing PA motorists is the state.
PA has the 3rd highest taxes on gas, just behind california and Illinois. 62 cents per gallon. any chance of making a profit owning a gas station doesnt come from the pumps, it comes from getting them inside and hoping they buy a 2.50 fountain drink and 7 dollar peperoni rolls..
most people know this, the few blaming greedy gas station owners on here, well just laugh at them, that's what we do..
PA boxed themselves in with the way they compute their gas tax....First they based it on the price of the gas (while at the same time advocating for fuel efficient vehicles) and not the quantity purchased (as in Ohio--who collect the same tax whether gas is $2.25 a gallon or $5.00 a gallon) and came up short when prices went way down and have to play catch-up and now they have to deal with the computations to account for EV's...Seems to me it should be based on miles driven...You have to get your vehicle inspected every year. Inspection station computes the mileage per day from last inspection to current one and sends to PennDOT with a single click...You get a bill based on the miles driven. This seems fair and sensible for everyone and for this reason will never be adopted by politicians who love for taxes to be hidden...
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Sheetz took out a small ma and pa store called Carpenter's in Sidman back in the day. Wouldn't have been so bad except for the stale gobs you could get there were among the greatest things I've ever tasted. Straight no respect for expiration dates, and it was awesome. The hardness made them unique.
PA's problem is unique in that there are more miles of roads here than anywhere else. Every cow path is paved (badly) and needs to be maintained.
Yes and no. I think you could get at least 10 miles to the gallon on Keystone Ice.
Disagree, then you lose the tax revenue from people filling up in PA who don't live in PA. That's gonna to increase what is needed from your mileage tax.
I'd rather they actually manage projects effectively, build roads that are actually used, and fix the infrastructure we have.
Man I love those things, stale or not!Sheetz took out a small ma and pa store called Carpenter's in Sidman back in the day. Wouldn't have been so bad except for the stale gobs you could get there were among the greatest things I've ever tasted. Straight no respect for expiration dates, and it was awesome. The hardness made them unique.
You currently lose tax revenue from PA border residents crossing over for cheaper gas in all six states that border PA...If I'm coming home from out of state I always fill up before I cross the border..
If you want to tax just out of staters at the pump, feel free. A simple driver's license scan at the pump should do the trick...
What are gobs? Looks like some kind of cookie?Sheetz took out a small ma and pa store called Carpenter's in Sidman back in the day. Wouldn't have been so bad except for the stale gobs you could get there were among the greatest things I've ever tasted. Straight no respect for expiration dates, and it was awesome. The hardness made them unique.
Whoopie pie is the non-colloquial name for them. These gas station ones were much more condensed/flattened/hardened than what you'd find in a bakery, and the icing was actually yellow... so they kind of were similar to a cookie, even though I'm not sure if they left the factory that way.
You've never been to a Sheetz? I thought you were from PA but after reading that you're from Michigan, what exactly is your tie to the University of Pittsburgh? I have some family who went to EMU up in Ypsilanti, I never met a Pitt fan up there.
Gotcha, thanks. Always interesting to hear local terms for different things.
As you travel further east in PA, the price of gas drops, even at Sheetz. That 3.59 price is accurate for central/western PA, I've seen
prices at Sheetz locations near Harrisburg that are 30 cents a gallon less.
Maybe, but I'll guess you'll eventually end up with both. A mileage tax and a gas tax, along with the whatever new systems/infrastructure you need to handle the mileage tax reporting, billing and collection.
Typically there’s not much land available for that type of use in the nicer burbs. It looks like these Sheetz sites are huge and So far here in MI, the communities that have approved a Sheetz site are more industrial, blue collar communities like Romulus, MI, where DTW is.
You just made a great case against owning an all-electric car.
i'll tell you one thing i miss here in the south hills. Crossroads. was a gas station/convenience store and they did 3 chili cheese hot dogs for 99cents.
i kid you not, they were good. in high school, we'd hit it up after a night of drinking and the poor dude working the counter would just give us a look of anger as he knew he was going to have to make about 21 chili cheese hot dogs..
i kid you not, they were good. in high school, we'd hit it up after a night of drinking and the poor dude working the counter would just give us a look of anger as he knew he was going to have to make about 21 chili cheese hot dogs..
Actually you might want to start with a couple of trillionaire sheikhs in Saudia Arabia and work your way all the way down to the gas retailers if you want to discuss fleecing at the gas pump. The states are in last place when it comes to the fleecing.
You asked so I'll give you the full explanation. My mom and dad are from Pittsburgh, my entire remaining extended family on my mom's side and my dad's family that isn't in Ireland still live there. Dad was a Pitt alum and lifelong major fan, younger fraternity brother of the great Mike Ditka, we had no choice growing up in that house but to be Pitt fans. The old man was reponsible for that lifelong curse. I also several extended family members that went to Pitt, had two cousins that played at Pitt in the glory days, one was a four year starter, academic all-American and played in the NFL for a while. The old man was a proud product of Westinghouse High, played football for Pete D'Imperio and basketball at The House.
I also grew up a fan of the Stillers and Pirates, but I outgrew that pretty early and I've been a Detrroit pro sports fan the vast majority of my life. But Pitt stuck with me. My dad embedded it in us boys. I played ball at a MAC school so Pitt remained my #1 "big school" rooting interest. Secondarily I root for Michigan State and ND due to close family ties.
There are very, very few Pitt fans in these parts--there were more around here when I was a kid, when Pitt football was a brand, but never many.
What ever happened to poster nantyglos finest?
I don't recall them lowering prices drastically in the east suburbs, and they didn't seem to push anyone out of business. I live close to the 2 Irwin stores and every other gas station around there is still open, except the one right before the Turnpike that had extreme markups, they've been gone for awhile now.
My buddys dad owned Denunzio's Sunoco down by Abruzzi. Many years ago he sold it to some Asian Indians. They closed the service bays and made it into just a store. I don't know anyone who goes there anymore and even they stay open, with another sunoco across the street less than a mile away, 2 sheetz locations, a GetGo, and a marathon.
As someone else said, the gas stations make money inside the store. Gasoline is a very small margin game.
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re they still around?Sheetz took out a small ma and pa store called Carpenter's in Sidman back in the day. Wouldn't have been so bad except for the stale gobs you could get there were among the greatest things I've ever tasted. Straight no respect for expiration dates, and it was awesome. The hardness made them unique.
I really like the gobs.
Who made them?
I somehow have managed to get to know members of the Sheetz workforce at just about every level of its hierarchy. It's a fascinating company and definitely has its quirks. Like, if you called that number in the bathroom, it used to ring on the desk of Steve Sheetz.
I once interviewed for the department that actually deals with gasoline. I found it fascinating that they have a couple of Wall Street dudes on staff that buy and sell futures. So yeah, they do have more influence on the market that what meets the eye because they may be driving the price up artificially. They also are very big into market pricing so if the other local stations need to operate with a higher price, Sheetz won't try to undersell them.
If I had a criticism, they've become obsessed with every last penny of profit. That wasn't how it used to be. They were much more generous with employee bonuses and were not a quick to move prices.
I once interviewed for the department that actually deals with gasoline. I found it fascinating that they have a couple of Wall Street dudes on staff that buy and sell futures. So yeah, they do have more influence on the market that what meets the eye because they may be driving the price up artificially. They also are very big into market pricing so if the other local stations need to operate with a higher price, Sheetz won't try to undersell them.
If I had a criticism, they've become obsessed with every last penny of profit. That wasn't how it used to be. They were much more generous with employee bonuses and were not a quick to move prices.
