"TD_6082, post: 1674163, member: 510"]It's totally impossible to predict how the future will play out.
Difficult but not IMPOSSIBLE? Bookies do it every week, day, and Vegas hedges bets too all year long, CU winning the PAC-12 was 100 to Win shot? Strong is gone from Texas! The reason why newspapers put Odds in Papers even when Gaming was illegal is because they made money doing it?
We are talking Coaches & Programs here.....one can see a few years ago, Purdue's Hazell was not going to make it? Coaches show how they coach from day one and and by year 3 some can see them improve or eventually go?
Going by this year alone, Franklin has done a better job.
I will wait until the season to play out to agree or disagree? Unlike you that just said, it is IMPOSSIBLE to predict the future? and now contradicts himself before the season is at an end what if Franklin loses his next two game and ends up 9-4? Just saying you said one thing above and just said the opposite just now?
I don't think that is really open for debate.
Then why are you debating it, again a third contradiction from you?
PSU is going into their last game ranked in the Top 10 & still has a chance to win their conference. We have 4 losses and one of them was an ugly loss to a team that was on a 4 game losing streak.
The Penn State has an ugly Loss to Pitt by your 4th contradictions? season not over, do you really want to say this there is a chance PSU could be 9-4 too??
Overall, I think Franklin and Narduzzi have both done a great job at putting their respective schools back on the map.
I agree with you, but I just disagree and I admit I may be wrong, Narduzzi in just his 2nd Year will continue to do it better and with less Pitt Program Resources versus Franklin has had to do with more Program Resource sand 6th years of Head Coaching experiences. Franklin had a two year jump on Narduzzi at PSU too?
I don't necessarily agree with you about PSU &WVU having significant advantages over Pitt due to resources.
Well, have to seen the Games attended this year and Attendance numbers the last 10 years do they make more money, sell more properties rights, have had their Recruiting Staffs in place with no vacancies? Who has the bigger Fan Base? Who has the Bigger Undergraduate Numbers? Have you compared Athletic Department Revenues with WVU, Pitt and PSU?
IMO, Holgerson has the toughest job of the three, because of their location and conference.
I agree with that and he has had 6 years to make them better but DH inherited a pretty good Program created bu CoachRod & kept up by Oliver Luck! yet, Urban Programs like Pitt all have a tough time on attednance as well???
I also might add Holgrosen has had tougher round Robin Schedule playing all 9 Big-12 teams, but this year, has the weaker Schedule than Pitt or PSU, so far?
They are a fish out of water and really don't have a recruiting base.
How many 4 & 5 Star Recruits are on WVU, Pitt, and PSU Rosters? How big are the full Rosters including Walk-Ons! Big Ten allows Unlimited Non-Qualifiers, Big-12 and ACC limits them! If you don't know any of this what are you comparing? Go compare Pitt, PSU, and WVU Recruiting Rankings and list the last 5 years Rankings & 4 & 5 star Recruits? It will be a good learning experience for to compare all 3 of them so you can back up your opinions?
PSU has the disadvantage of playing in the same division with tOSU & Michigan and what will traditionally be one of the toughest divisions in college football.
I have stated this all along and why I feel Franklin is not up to being better due to the Coaches in the Big Ten East and same for Holgrosen in the Big-12, now you are repeating my arguments and concurring but contradict your self for now what 6th time?? I stated many time Narduzzi has easier path in ACC Coastal! I also just see he is the better coach in his 2nd year too, even though Pitt has only been in the ACC since 2013? Plus Narduzzi beat Franklin and was not blown away by a Gundy OKSU Team?
PSU is a weird place, and its also impossible to know if Franklin has had full support since he's been there and accepted by those who won't let the Paterno era go.
Again, you are repeating of what i have stated many times and you can recheck them in my post that are in archives? Yet, you keep saying and it is in the Archives that Franklin needs 2018 to prove he can win but now in 2016 you think he is better in spite of losing to Narduzzi? I understand your opinions since 3 years ago, and we can wait to see the full 2016 results, but I look at all 4 Quarters in a Game, and how much Program Resources are provided by Alumni, Fans, and Income? We agree to disagree and then agree on some other things!
Do you think Franklin is better that Paterno?
Do we Judge Narduzzi in his 6th year too?
You actually agreed to many things I posted!
I see Coach Pat being better right now doing more with less than Franklin has and Holgrosen has had over 6 years, and it is OK if you disagree, we shall see?
TD, I enjoy your comments and this is like a mystery game to be played out in seeing for the future which Coach will be bette.r....Pitt's Coach Pat, Penn States Coach James, or WVU's Coach Dana? Or like you say all 3 the next few years? I don't care if I am wrong just want to see if my hunch is more right as I think?
