Just about every year is and will be a good year for the argument of an 8 team playoff. The 5 P5 conf champs plus 3 at large seems like a no-brainer to me.
Penn State closing in on Rose Bowl and CFP
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Psu will lose at least 4 games next year... their schedule isnt nearly as favorable.
They will lose to UM at home and OSU on the road
...those 2 losses are guaranteed.
MSU wont be this bad two years in a row and they have better talent than psu does.
Other losses for PSU could include @ Iowa, @Northwestern @MSU or Nebraska at home.
PSU will take their lumps next year...
At least 4 losses.
Who has PSU beat? Purdue? Kent St? Maryland? Rutgers? C'mon
Their schedule has been very favorable...
PSU will get exposed if they ever have to play anyone even half decent on the road.
They are still pretty lousy in the trenches.
PSU is going to win out. They'll show how "good" they really are when they play a top 10 team in the Big Ten title game/New Years Bowl game
The Nitters have had their share of luck.
An easy schedule.
OSU played one of the worst games possible and along with Iowa. OSU should beat them 10 of 10.
Indiana was a jump ball!
But luck counts!
An easy schedule.
OSU played one of the worst games possible and along with Iowa. OSU should beat them 10 of 10.
Indiana was a jump ball!
But luck counts!
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They have had a very weak schedule. But.if they are an 11-2 BT champ with wins over OSU and Wisky, that may be enough is what I'm saying.
Personally, I'd love to see them get in as the 4 seed. The beating Alabama would put on them would be worth it. They might break McSorely in half.
He probably predicted 6 losses this year. Penn State returns almost their entire team next year. Michigan loses almost their entire team. The only guaranteed loss is @ Ohio State
They arent good...
They should win out against winless RU and 1-6 MSU. Talk about murders row.
They're a good team. New Year's Day bowl I don't think you can they don't deserve. But a certain point I think they gotta look at how many awful teams they play and say the playoffs is a little much.
I don't think they will leave them out if they are the big ten champs, but here's the thing... personally I think it would be ridiculous to put any 2 loss team over OK St. the committee really needs to consider them a 1 loss team if they win out.
I don't think they will leave them out if they are the big ten champs, but here's the thing... personally I think it would be ridiculous to put any 2 loss team over OK St. the committee really needs to consider them a 1 loss team if they win out.
I predicted them at 9 and 3 with losses to Pitt, UM and MSU.
I actually called the OSU game before the season because OSU lost pretty much everyone from last years team.
I didnt think MSU was going to completely shit the bed this year like they have.
on the flip side, its also a great year for the argument that we don't need a playoff just a champ game.
who gets to play bama..
bama, clemson, louisville are all locks if they don't lose again. osu/UM winner is a lock if they don't lose again.
I agree that it is highly unlikely, but we would have two things in our favor, first, we would be the conference champions, and second we beat OSU head to head, two things the committee looks at closely. I still don't think we would make it though.
Louisville's resume is very weak. They'd have a good win against FSU but that's it. Beating Houston isnt really a quality win anymore. They're not even in the Top 25.
Louisville's only path is if Clemson loses to Wake and Lou wins the ACC. Their resume doesn't allow for them to get in as a non-champion.
This is the only scenario I see them getting in:
Alabama reps the SEC
OSU wins the BT somehow (and their chances of that are very small right now)
Clem goes 12-1
OU wins the Big 12 at 9-3.
Wash loses 2 or 3 games
I think 10-2 OKST goes over Lou and 11-1 WVU does if those teams are B12 champs. 10-2 Mich could even since they have wins over PSU, Wis, and Colorado.
i guess we will have to wait and see, but i dont see louisville being left out if they don't lose unless possibly if washington runs the table. Which..they have to play leech and a champ game if they do to likely a team that just beat them so its unlikely.
they are already ahead of everyone but probably bama and OSU (guess we will see later today for sure) and if its borderline (which i dont even think it is but, IF) they will want the heisman winner in the playoffs.
I don't really even think it will be a question. im not always right so who knows, but i don't really ever remember being wrong.
they are already ahead of everyone but probably bama and OSU (guess we will see later today for sure) and if its borderline (which i dont even think it is but, IF) they will want the heisman winner in the playoffs.
I don't really even think it will be a question. im not always right so who knows, but i don't really ever remember being wrong.
They are not ahead of everyone like you say. They will be no better than 5th in the CFP, the only rankings that matter. Their resume is CLEARLY worse than Clemson, OSU, and Mich.
Rankings are so stupid. If you lose, you move down, if you win, you move up. Well Clemson lost but how the heck can you "rank" them behind Clemson, a team they beat? Its basic common sense. I absolutely hate rankings because of this:
Both teams beat FSU. Clemson also won at Auburn. And Clemson want head to head. Its not even close, not close.
Louisville needs help. They aren't getting in over a 2 loss big ten champ, they won't draw anywhere near the numbers of viewers. I think Bama is basically in even with one loss. Don't think another SEC team has a shot but maybe a two loss team that wins SEC from bama gets in but its not likely bama loses
That leaves 3 spots. I think if clemson wins out they get in. They have played a much tougher schedule than washington and I think a 1 loss ACC champ trumps a 2 loss b12 or b10 champ.
Now we are down to 2. If MI wins out they are in no question. But after that things get tricky. b12 if WVU has only 1 loss( I think they drop at least one of their final two) would have a outside shot but a two loss OK or OK ST aren't getting in ahead of a 2 loss big 10. Washington if they run the table is probably the pick here but they have played a weak schedule, I don't think any other pac 12 team has a shot so if washington goes down they are gone. so 3rd goes to MI if they win out or washington if they win out.
number 4. as I said above if washington and MI both run the table thats your final 4 with the seeds being 1.bama 2. MI 3. clemson 4. washington. but if one of those teams lose they are out. Who gets the final spot. OSU has a good shot if they beat MI. PSU or Wisconsin if they win b10. Big 12 champ if its a one loss wvu or maybe OK sT if they run the table. OK can't get in because they have two losses and were hammered by OSU.
Current strength of schedule rankings. So if Penn State's schedule is "very weak" then Pitt's has been weaker.
1 Alabama (10-0) 12.1 1 40 1
2 Ohio State (9-1) 11.2 2 56 5
3 Wisconsin (8-2) 11.2 1 44 2
4 LSU (6-3) 10.2 4 26 6
5 Mississippi (5-5) 10.0 2 11 8
6 Florida St (7-3) 9.9 1 22 3
7 Clemson (9-1) 9.8 1 17 4
8 USC (7-3) 9.5 1 20 16
9 Stanford (7-3) 8.9 2 63 10
10 Texas A&M (7-3) 8.1 2 30 7
11 Auburn (7-3) 7.8 7 30 9
12 Colorado (8-2) 7.3 11 115 12
13 Oklahoma (8-2) 7.1 1 18 15
14 Louisville (9-1) 7.0 2 106 11
15 Michigan (9-1) 6.5 10 75 19
16 Arkansas (6-4) 6.4 16 61 17
17 UCLA (4-6) 6.3 6 21 13
18 Penn State (8-2) 6.3 16 70 18
19 Pittsburgh (6-4) 6.2 19 102 28
1 Alabama (10-0) 12.1 1 40 1
2 Ohio State (9-1) 11.2 2 56 5
3 Wisconsin (8-2) 11.2 1 44 2
4 LSU (6-3) 10.2 4 26 6
5 Mississippi (5-5) 10.0 2 11 8
6 Florida St (7-3) 9.9 1 22 3
7 Clemson (9-1) 9.8 1 17 4
8 USC (7-3) 9.5 1 20 16
9 Stanford (7-3) 8.9 2 63 10
10 Texas A&M (7-3) 8.1 2 30 7
11 Auburn (7-3) 7.8 7 30 9
12 Colorado (8-2) 7.3 11 115 12
13 Oklahoma (8-2) 7.1 1 18 15
14 Louisville (9-1) 7.0 2 106 11
15 Michigan (9-1) 6.5 10 75 19
16 Arkansas (6-4) 6.4 16 61 17
17 UCLA (4-6) 6.3 6 21 13
18 Penn State (8-2) 6.3 16 70 18
19 Pittsburgh (6-4) 6.2 19 102 28
the difference is you have a couple way at the top that sway it higher, and a BUNCH of gimmes. Pitt has more decent teams, but only the 1 top tier team to raise it.
i mean, pitt and iowa are the 3rd/4th best team you have played both 6-4
your looking at like 1 of 10 angles on it though and then slam your eyes shut. i don't feel like going into it but you are pretty far off (as usual), by this 'basic common sense' logic pitt should be ahead of clemson. we will see when new playoffs are out, but louisville will be 4 at least.
and revamped, im sure you made valid points and i want to read them but until you find the enter key its just too much of a hassle.
makes you wonder about the weak metric used here...Pitt played 5 games (3 in current top 15) against top 30 opponents. Penn State played 2.
I agree. Pitt is better than PSU, we beat them, and we just beat the #2 team in the country in a great game, not a fluke as PSU does. PSU is so overrated, it's ridiculous.
Most people on here are not college football fans. That is clearer and clearer every week.
Louisville will be 5th. Clemson, OSU, and Mich will be 2-4 though not sure in which order. I promise you that.
PSU's path just got much easier. The Mich QB is out for the year. Not sure they will ne competitive vs OSU. PSU is probably 1 win away vs Wisconsin of getting into the CFP.....and yes over Louisville.
and here i thought the nonstop psu trolls here was because you didn't care this whole time..Nah, we keep coming here because you're such a whimsical, fun loving group.
Wisconsin, possibly, but not you yuckies...Only 1 Big Ten 10 team this year, regardless unless Clemson, Louisville AND/OR Washington slip up again. Keep dreaming, though.
Watch and see. PSU gets in if it wins out and beats Wisky. No question. 4 of the top 9 teams are B1G teams, showing the Committee's respect for the conference.
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