Penn State Deserves & Earns NCS Playoff Invite Over Ohio State!

[Pittx9]

I'll break my semi silence.
Wrong.
OSU emasculated Oklahoma (a top ten conference champion) on the road.
What you do on the road matters significantly.
Don't you think it is odd that PSU is getting credit for playing Pitt and they flaunt that, but won't schedule Pitt again.
Pot, meet kettle.
Sorry Cap....you failed the geography test.

Let's say Penn State gets left out today. How dumb will James from State College sound in the locker room at next year's game. Trying to get the team pumped by telling them that Pitt team is who kept you out of the playoffs... but still claim we're not rivals.

I think it's finally time Pitt and PSU go their seperate ways for good. They need to play an even easier non-conference schedule, and we don't need State College's branch of the KKK coming to Pittsburgh ever again.

 

[chethejet]

I have seen very little defense this year. My view is PSU is simply not good enough when matched up with athletic programs that take away the factor of the jump ball passing of the nits. Without the big play or run, they really lack offensive consistency to beat anyone good.

 

[GT74]

I agree. Ohio State did not win their division or conference!

They tied PSU in the division. A tiebreaker was the decisive factor. So OSU's win against Mich means nothing, when Mich beat PSU by 39!! If Fla would have beaten Bama, would they deserve to go as conference champs? A 2 loss team over a 1 loss team, that lost on the road on a blocked kick? Just sayin. Penn St deserves all the credit in the world for their finish, and being conf champs. It's a helluva story. But OSU has a better resume IMO.

 

[CaptainMurphy]

Respectfully disagree. Not only is OSU more deserving but so is Michigan based on the butt whooping they put on PSU.

 

[Pittx9]

Respectfully disagree. Not only is OSU more deserving but so is Michigan based on the butt whooping they put on PSU.

And that's the thing. I don't think Michigan should be under any consideration at all. But they destroyed Penn State. I think those two are ruled out immediately. I think #5 has got to be Oklahoma. Yeah they got smacked by Ohio State, who lost to Penn State. But if you really break down every single head to head, everyone has lost to someone that could disqualify them. In that case, just hand it all to 'Bama.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

"Fsgolfdr, post: 1695758, member: 4122"]It was a great win for Pitt and trust me I'm a Pitt fan ,but PSU just won the Big 10 championship.
Penn State earned that B-10 Championship and I compliment them as well deserved. Pitt beat Big Ten & ACC Champs too. Pitt is 8-4, WVU 10-2, and Penn State 11-2, but do not see much difference in all 3 teams, just my view. If they played today would be Toss Up Games! I am glad all 3 Programs returned to Top 25 this year, but need to finish it by winning all 3 Bowls!

Pitt FB unlike BB is on the upswing , but until they can generate a similiar atmosphere Pitt will not be able to out recruit programs like PSU.
Penn State has far more Program Resources not just Attendance, and they usually out Recruit Pitt every year. But Pitt has more All Americans All Pros and Hall of Famers, not only in History but the last 5, 10, and 15 years more than Penn State. we have just as Good Players as Penn State as a Team, Penn State has 27 Four & Five Star Recruits, Pitt 16, WVU 11? Pitt is doing just fine.

Playing in front of empty seats or 100,000 + fans you can't compare the football experience of the Big 10 to the ACC.
Well, the ACC has more Private Smaller Schools and Urban Schools. The ACC is doing just fine in NCS Playoffs too. So far in 2016, ACC is 3-1 against Big-10, and we shall compare Bowl Wins soon.

Ps .. Pitt would have never won the B10 this year and it doesn't take anything away from a really good Panther season.
Well, Pitt did beat the Champions of the Big Ten and Penn State has not beaten the Champion of the ACC, and we shall see if they will be invited to take on Pac-12, ACC, or SEC and if not see if Penn State can beat USC in the Rose Bowl?

If Penn State is not invited to the NCS Playoff Bowls it may be due to Penn State the Big Ten Champion not beating Pitt, and give credit to Pitt. Additionally, you using the word 'NEVER' is not exactly correct either in those facts.

i want Penn State to be Invited over Ohio State, I never feared a Winning Penn State!

 

[TD_6082]

I have seen very little defense this year. My view is PSU is simply not good enough when matched up with athletic programs that take away the factor of the jump ball passing of the nits. Without the big play or run, they really lack offensive consistency to beat anyone good.

Well, they have beaten some pretty good teams. But I do agree that the Nits are weak on both sides of the ball upfront.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

"Saboteur, post: 1695786, member: 5688"]I'll break my semi silence.
Wrong.
I respect your other view, so accept it too!

OSU emasculated Oklahoma (a top ten conference champion) on the road.
I am not disputing that at all and agree with you Ohio State played and won the Tougher Games. I blame the CFB Committee Criteria and Conferences not OSU or PSU or anyone else. I accept others differ and every Website I have gone to has picked OSU, so you are not wrong.

What you do on the road matters significantly.
Exactly, and why Pitt's Win over Clemson was far better than PSU over OSU at Beaver.

Don't you think it is odd that PSU is getting credit for playing Pitt and they flaunt that, but won't schedule Pitt again.
I hear you Brother and know what you are talking about and Penn State's flaunts have been self delusions since 1966 by many of their fans, and I can't defend Stupid nor Nittany Liars? i do respect many PSU Alumni that treat me with grace, respect, and generosity.

Pot, meet kettle.
Very appropriate for the Cultists many not Graduates or Alumni, and they attack Penn State that brought Athletic Integrity Reforms and Found Franklin every day and those are not flaunts but their flwas and failure to respect other people especially there own at penn State?

Sorry Cap....you failed the geography test.
I accept my failures and will wait until the CFB Committee makes it choices, and commend you own views may be more closer to the truth.

There Is No Sin In Being Stupid, The Sin Is Staying Stupid, Some Penn State Cultists Prefer To Remain Stupid?

What more can I can convey and that I know you can agree with me on that at any Location?

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

Well, they have beaten some pretty good teams. But I do agree that the Nits are weak on both sides of the ball upfront.

I enjoy your comments, challenges, and insights and I just figured out your handle that I often confuse with your numbers, now I can see why you use 6082??? Many call him TD but his friends at Hopewell called him Hawk!

If you recall and I can go back and look it for it, I was concern with Moorhead System and McSorley running it from Day One and put up Links on it and asked Posters how to stop it. We shall see how USC does it?

Yet, Franklin keeping McSorely at QB instead of moving him to Safety, that is why PSU is 11-2.

This the same Decisions by Majors keeping The Hawk a Running Back that broke NCAA records & Won the Heisman & national Championship, when Paterno recruited him to be Defensive Back? Smart move by Major's and Franklin too! Majors and Franklin are very friendly too! Franklin has changed since 2013 too?

 

[Panther Parrothead]

It was a great win for Pitt and trust me I'm a Pitt fan ,but PSU just won the Big 10 championship . Pitt FB unlike BB is on the upswing , but until they can generate a similiar atmosphere Pitt will not be able to out recruit programs like PSU . Playing in front of empty seats or 100,000 + fans you can't compare the football experience of the Big 10 to the ACC .
Ps .. Pitt would have never won the B10 this year and it doesn't take anything away from a really good Panther season

How many wins do you think the Nits would've had if they had played Pitt's schedule?

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

Oklahoma lost convincingly but but they didn't lose 49-10!
Even with your cupcake schedule, you still lost 2 games; OSU and Washington lost 1. Get over it!
Big10 champs but not state champs.

Also, I might add all Games count all season long, many PSU Fans like to Nit and Pick only Stats that favor Penn State Football Program, it is a custom and tradition and bad habit that led to Penn State Contrition on many occasions, and especially in 2012?

I like HotShoes, he has passion, zeal, and takes a lot of hits and kicks on the Lair, and stays within the rules, and is often more fair than others over on BWI, but i respect his love of Penn State as much as all on Pitt here too.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

How many wins do you think the Nits would've had if they had played Pitt's schedule?

Good questions and add in WVU and Pitt Schedules too? It would be good analysis for after the Bowl Games in my opinion.

 

[TD_6082]

McSorely is a gutsy little player. I'd say he's a much better leader than the QB he replaced too. Wisky sold out at times to stop the running game and put heat on McSorely and it worked early. They adjusted with their playcalling, and got to the outside quick and made Wisky play on their heels in the second half.

I may be totally off base, but in my opinion, UCS is going to be far superior athletically. I think the Trojans will win, and I think there is a good chance it gets messy. Unless USC is totally disinterested and reverts back to the hot mess they were last year or early this season, I think the Trojans will win.

 

[Pittx9]

McSorely is a gutsy little player. I'd say he's a much better leader than the QB he replaced too. Wisky sold out at times to stop the running game and put heat on McSorely and it worked early. They adjusted with their playcalling, and got to the outside quick and made Wisky play on their heels in the second half.

I may be totally off base, but in my opinion, UCS is going to be far superior athletically. I think the Trojans will win, and I think there is a good chance it gets messy. Unless USC is totally disinterested and reverts back to the hot mess they were last year or early this season, I think the Trojans will win.

I said for over a year I was more afraid of the PSU game if Hack went pro. Personally I thought hack since HS was way overhyped. Also I was very impressed with McSorley in the bowl game last year. I think after 1 year as starter he would already go down today as a much better PSU QB than Hack.

 

[Panther Parrothead]

McSorely is a gutsy little player. I'd say he's a much better leader than the QB he replaced too. Wisky sold out at times to stop the running game and put heat on McSorely and it worked early. They adjusted with their playcalling, and got to the outside quick and made Wisky play on their heels in the second half.

I may be totally off base, but in my opinion, UCS is going to be far superior athletically. I think the Trojans will win, and I think there is a good chance it gets messy. Unless USC is totally disinterested and reverts back to the hot mess they were last year or early this season, I think the Trojans will win.

I don't often agree with you, but in this case, I do: McSorley is vastly under-rated on these boards. He's one of those players who "all they do is win". He's clutch...money...all of those other adjectives/intangibles that describe a great college quarterback.

Now his detractors are gonna talk about his NFL potential: he's too short, he'd never take a beating, he can't throw a football into a garbage can fifty-yds away......well, screw all of that - we're talking about college football here, and barring something unforeseen, the kid is gonna have a fantastic career while he's in Happy Valley.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

"Pittx9, post: 1695792, member: 15348"]
I disagree with much respect towards your many good posts you on the Lair. Just my view, and you may not be wrong.

Let's say Penn State gets left out today.
You may be right and many have posted I am wrong, and i accept it.

How dumb will James from State College sound in the locker room at next year's game. Trying to get the team pumped by telling them that Pitt team is who kept you out of the playoffs... but still claim we're not rivals.
I think in reality he use that 2016 Pitt loss to motivate his Players even more for the 2017 Game at Beaver like he did against OSU and MSU this year. Pitt has to be raedy for it!

I think it's finally time Pitt and PSU go their seperate ways for good.
I disagree, I actually think Pitt & Penn State made each other better in 2016, versus 2015. They should see that too!

They need to play an even easier non-conference schedule, and we don't need State College's branch of the KKK coming to Pittsburgh ever again.
Disagree again, many of the PSU Fans are not graduates that bring Ahte against anyone not just Pitt.

Penn State has an African American Coach & Coaches and many African American Players and with Pitt in the 1950s fought to integrate College Football together!

Today the KKK is consider a Comedy Act made fun of with anyone wearing Sheets, it has been shamed, tamed, and now consider lame!

But War, Sports, and Economics actually brought more Integration for a better America and for Pitt & Penn State.

The joy is playing Sports and having Bitter Banter but Shake Hands in the end.

I am glad Penn State is 11-2 Big Ten Champs, WVU is 10-2 but lost to Big-12 Co-Champs Game Participants, and Pitt Beat ACC Champs, Big Ten Champs and just lost to Big-12 OKSU by 7 Points? All 3 can be proud.

Not a lecture just different view, playing PSU & WVU is what brings all of us together and make each other better and posting banter is expected and given as taken as part of competition.

 

[briano25]

nice season for them. But there is no way, none whatsoever, they are one of the four best in college football. It has to be Bama, Clemnson, Washington, OSU. I don't care they beat OSU....we beat Clemson and I wouldn't say we are better than them. PSU's QB is a hell of a football player. He's a winner

 

[wbrpanther]

#1. Alabama
#2 Clemson
#3 Washington
#4 Penn State

Penn State Won The Big Ten Conference Outright!
Penn State Beat #2 Ohio State Head to Head
Penn State Beat #5 Wisconsin Head To Head
Penn State Beat #22 Iowa Head To Head!
Penn State Lost To #4 Michigan Head To Head!
Penn State Lost To #25 Pitt Head To Head!
Penn State Is 9-1 In The Big Ten!
James Franklin Big Ten Head Coach of The Year!
Trace McSorley Deserves To Be Big Ten MVP!

Ohio State Played One Less Game Than Penn State!
Ohio State Lost To Penn State Head To Head!
Ohio State Beat #5 Michigan Head to Head!
Ohio State Beat #6 Wisconsin Head To Head!
Ohio State Beat #9 Oklahoma Head To Head!
Ohio State Is 8-1 In The Big Ten!

Others Can Differ!

It appears to me you laid out an argument for just the opposite of your conclusion. Not only is tOSU's resume better they have one less loss.

Face it. If the Nits beat Pitt they are in. And the fact that they know it is fantastic.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

"TD_6082, post: 1695882, member: 510"]McSorely is a gutsy little player. I'd say he's a much better leader than the QB he replaced too.
I agree and he runs the Moorhead Spread System the way he ran one in High School and went 55-5? I posted his Photo with Stevens and it showed Confidence in his face as he does every game, except Michigan. Even then Trace never gave up. Gisicki was TM's Go Guy and won Minnesota, UMD, Indiana, and helped turn Second Halfs into Wins much as Orndoff did for Peterman.

McSorley does not look big but he has Big Strong Thighs, Calf's, and Legs and makes those runs needed at the right time, and can take big hits.

Wisky sold out at times to stop the running game and put heat on McSorely and it worked early. They adjusted with their playcalling, and got to the outside quick and made Wisky play on their heels in the second half.
And PSU Wideouts made those same Big Catches Pitt saw in their game. But it was the PSU Defense that got better in Second Halfs as well all year long too.

I may be totally off base, but in my opinion, UCS is going to be far superior athletically.
I agree, they have the DBs, LBs and DLs, that have size, speed, and can stay with anybody and all game long as well. They are used to playing against the Spread too.

I think the Trojans will win, and I think there is a good chance it gets messy. Unless USC is totally disinterested and reverts back to the hot mess they were last year or early this season, I think the Trojans will win.
Trojans are upset they lost 3 games, I was at one of them, they found a QB and it will be a good game.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

It appears to me you laid out an argument for just the opposite of your conclusion. Not only is tOSU's resume better they have one less loss.

Face it. If the Nits beat Pitt they are in. And the fact that they know it is fantastic.

Don't disagree, just hanging my Hat on PSU being 9-1 versus 8-1 in the Conference and playing one more game. However, the CFB Committee Rankings always had OSu at #2 or #4, and no one expects that to change.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

I don't often agree with you, but in this case, I do: McSorley is vastly under-rated on these boards. He's one of those players who "all they do is win". He's clutch...money...all of those other adjectives/intangibles that describe a great college quarterback.

Now his detractors are gonna talk about his NFL potential: he's too short, he'd never take a beating, he can't throw a football into a garbage can fifty-yds away......well, screw all of that - we're talking about college football here, and barring something unforeseen, the kid is gonna have a fantastic career while he's in Happy Valley.

I disagree a tad, in 2017, Pitt, Michigan, Iowa, Ohio State, MSU, Northwestern, and Nebraska will prepare for Trace and the game to watch this year is the USC Rose Bowl, and see how does against a Team used to playing against the Spread. The challenge for Penn State is to become a 4 Quarter Team! We shall see?

 

[Panther Parrothead]

I disagree a tad, in 2017, Pitt, Michigan, Iowa, Ohio State, MSU, Northwestern, and Nebraska will prepare for Trace and the game to watch this year is the USC Rose Bowl, and see how does against a Team used to playing against the Spread. The challenge for Penn State is to become a 4 Quarter Team! We shall see?

I don't think it matters how much that anyone prepares for Trace.

The Nits aren't one-dimensional -- they have a running game, too. No defense can prepare to stop everything.

 

[PittMan2003]

Pedo isnt getting in. The cfp got lucky this year and there really isnt a controversy with bama, clemson, wash, and osu. The only people saying pedo should get in are pedo fans and media types trying to manufacture a controversy.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

"Panther Parrothead, post: 1696008, member: 240"]I don't think it matters how much that anyone prepares for Trace.
You are not wrong, Trace has had many bad starts when they did prepare for him, but he learns as the Game goes along, and why the half-Time Adjustments made PSU so Great this year? The Defense also played a big role in the Second Half of most their games, they feed off of each other..

The Nits aren't one-dimensional -- they have a running game, too. No defense can prepare to stop everything.[/QUOTE]
I put up how Moorhead System is run by a QB making decisions with the other Players but rely on a QB that can run and gun too as they adjust to the QBs moves, and if you look at some PSu Stats Games, PSU did not always get 100 Rushing Yards, but got Big Passing Plays due to QB McSorley making those adjustment Calls that are hard to defend because they are not planned Plays they are QB's Planning them as he runs them?

Navy did this to Pitt last year, but it can be defended or out score them too.

I can put that Article Up Again, if you want to read it? Oregon has done this often but other Teams can out score them too.

 

[pittmeister]

With the recent horrible history you have to take your hat off to the current PSU football team and coaching staff . Remember these kids and coaches had nothing to do with the past . When comparing Pitt to PSU Pitt will always be second fiddle until they can fill up Heinz Field . The experience of playing in those packed stadiums in the Big 10 is hard to compete against .

I smell the aroma of $hit.... Must be another obsessive nitter in disguise...

All of his posts takes a backhanded swipe at Pitt.

Beat it nitter. I'm going laugh my ass off when the playoff teams are announced knowing Pitt stopped you from going

42-39 little brother..

 

[crharris8892]

No they don't, not with 2 losses and one being Pitt.

 

[Mthomas]

they lost to Pitt

that's it

Pitt is better than Ped State today and will be even better next year

They will beat Ped State next year

Hail to Pitt

 

[Hotshoe]

nice season for them. But there is no way, none whatsoever, they are one of the four best in college football. It has to be Bama, Clemnson, Washington, OSU. I don't care they beat OSU....we beat Clemson and I wouldn't say we are better than them. PSU's QB is a hell of a football player. He's a winner

I wouldn't say that at all. In fact, I think Pitt would roll Washington. Washington doesn't belong.

 

[pittmeister]

It was a great win for Pitt and trust me I'm a Pitt fan ,but PSU just won the Big 10 championship . Pitt FB unlike BB is on the upswing , but until they can generate a similiar atmosphere Pitt will not be able to out recruit programs like PSU . Playing in front of empty seats or 100,000 + fans you can't compare the football experience of the Big 10 to the ACC .
Ps .. Pitt would have never won the B10 this year and it doesn't take anything away from a really good Panther season

Hmmmm... The attendance angle...Is their any doubt this LOSER is a nitter? They can't help themselves when it comes to attendance...

Get lost you obsessive loser...

42-39 YOU LOST! and you won't be going to the playoffs because of it! Enjoy watching OSU!

 

[pittmeister]

they lost to Pitt

that's it

Pitt is better than Ped State today and will be even better next year

They will beat Ped State next year

Hail to Pitt

If we land Zaire and Foster, they will lose for sure....

 

[runthewildcat]

I wouldn't say that at all. In fact, I think Pitt would roll Washington. Washington doesn't belong.

They only lost one game, won their conference game, and won convincingly.
Coming from behind to beat a one dimensional Wisconsin team wasn't nearly as convincing as washington's win.
People say Pitt ruined penn states season, which is somewhat true, but the reality of it is their 49-10 loss killed them.

 

[Fsgolfdr]

Hmmmm... The attendance angle...Is their any doubt this LOSER is a nitter? They can't help themselves when it comes to attendance...

Get lost you obsessive loser...

42-39 YOU LOST! and you won't be going to the playoffs because of it! Enjoy watching OSU!

Went to Pitt for 8 yrs , two degrees . Not being able to recognize the difference between the strengths of programs and the lack of support for Pitt athletics is a myopic view of reality. Also not being able to recognize others accomplishments isn't a very good quality to have .
If you'd like to look in the mirror I think what you'll see is a loser !

 

[Fsgolfdr]

How many wins do you think the Nits would've had if they had played Pitt's schedule?

Never gave it a moments thought . I know PITT beat them and then they went on to win the B10 title . Good for them . I think B10 FB is superior to ACC by a mile.

 

[Slick Manager of Champs]

HAHAHA. Is that the OU team that got beatdown by tOSU on their home field?

using the same logic as your beloved nitters, OU is palying their best ball now. They would steamroll OSU or PSU.

 

[Cap pitt]

#1. Alabama
#2 Clemson
#3 Washington
#4 Penn State

Penn State Won The Big Ten Conference Outright!
Penn State Beat #2 Ohio State Head to Head
Penn State Beat #5 Wisconsin Head To Head
Penn State Beat #22 Iowa Head To Head!
Penn State Lost To #4 Michigan Head To Head!
Penn State Lost To #25 Pitt Head To Head!
Penn State Is 9-1 In The Big Ten!
James Franklin Big Ten Head Coach of The Year!
Trace McSorley Deserves To Be Big Ten MVP!

Ohio State Played One Less Game Than Penn State!
Ohio State Lost To Penn State Head To Head!
Ohio State Beat #5 Michigan Head to Head!
Ohio State Beat #6 Wisconsin Head To Head!
Ohio State Beat #9 Oklahoma Head To Head!
Ohio State Is 8-1 In The Big Ten!

Others Can Differ!

No ways hound psu be in playoffs, 2 loses never should never beat out 1 loss teams in power 5 schedules. OSU beat Oklahoma at Oklahoma psu beat Ohio St at psu psu is at best #5 Michigan should be there before psu. Beat psu also 2 loses just like psu

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

No ways hound psu be in playoffs, 2 loses never should never beat out 1 loss teams in power 5 schedules. OSU beat Oklahoma at Oklahoma psu beat Ohio St at psu psu is at best #5 Michigan should be there before psu. Beat psu also 2 loses just like psu

Penn State can still end up ahead of the NCS Invitation Teams by winning their Bowl Game. Wow, just think if Clemson beats Ohio State, Penn Satte will move up if they win their own Bowl? Once again, Nittany Lion Fans will be supporting the ACC, cheering for Clemson, and praying they win their own Rose Bowl Game!

 

[Mr. Potter]

#1. Alabama
#2 Clemson
#3 Washington
#4 Penn State

Penn State Won The Big Ten Conference Outright!
Penn State Beat #2 Ohio State Head to Head
Penn State Beat #5 Wisconsin Head To Head
Penn State Beat #22 Iowa Head To Head!
Penn State Lost To #4 Michigan Head To Head!
Penn State Lost To #25 Pitt Head To Head!
Penn State Is 9-1 In The Big Ten!
James Franklin Big Ten Head Coach of The Year!
Trace McSorley Deserves To Be Big Ten MVP!

Ohio State Played One Less Game Than Penn State!
Ohio State Lost To Penn State Head To Head!
Ohio State Beat #5 Michigan Head to Head!
Ohio State Beat #6 Wisconsin Head To Head!
Ohio State Beat #9 Oklahoma Head To Head!
Ohio State Is 8-1 In The Big Ten!

Others Can Differ!

great view

 

[Fsgolfdr]

"Fsgolfdr, post: 1695758, member: 4122"]It was a great win for Pitt and trust me I'm a Pitt fan ,but PSU just won the Big 10 championship.
Penn State earned that B-10 Championship and I compliment them as well deserved. Pitt beat Big Ten & ACC Champs too. Pitt is 8-4, WVU 10-2, and Penn State 11-2, but do not see much difference in all 3 teams, just my view. If they played today would be Toss Up Games! I am glad all 3 Programs returned to Top 25 this year, but need to finish it by winning all 3 Bowls!

Pitt FB unlike BB is on the upswing , but until they can generate a similiar atmosphere Pitt will not be able to out recruit programs like PSU.
Penn State has far more Program Resources not just Attendance, and they usually out Recruit Pitt every year. But Pitt has more All Americans All Pros and Hall of Famers, not only in History but the last 5, 10, and 15 years more than Penn State. we have just as Good Players as Penn State as a Team, Penn State has 27 Four & Five Star Recruits, Pitt 16, WVU 11? Pitt is doing just fine.

Playing in front of empty seats or 100,000 + fans you can't compare the football experience of the Big 10 to the ACC.
Well, the ACC has more Private Smaller Schools and Urban Schools. The ACC is doing just fine in NCS Playoffs too. So far in 2016, ACC is 3-1 against Big-10, and we shall compare Bowl Wins soon.

Ps .. Pitt would have never won the B10 this year and it doesn't take anything away from a really good Panther season.
Well, Pitt did beat the Champions of the Big Ten and Penn State has not beaten the Champion of the ACC, and we shall see if they will be invited to take on Pac-12, ACC, or SEC and if not see if Penn State can beat USC in the Rose Bowl?

If Penn State is not invited to the NCS Playoff Bowls it may be due to Penn State the Big Ten Champion not beating Pitt, and give credit to Pitt. Additionally, you using the word 'NEVER' is not exactly correct either in those facts.

i want Penn State to be Invited over Ohio State, I never feared a Winning Penn State!

Pitt didn't win their conference PSU did . Pitt had a great season one to build on .
Pitt has a top 10 offense and absolutely one of the worst defenses in major college FB . I'm not sure how PITT would fair against teams such as OSU ,Michigan and Wisconsin ,but this team wouldn't have won the B10 championship this season , if you want to think otherwise that's your prerogative . I'd love to see Pitt in a bowl game against a team with a stout defense to see exactly how good their offense is .
Your just making excuses about the attendance issues the B10 is just a far superior FB conference than the ACC . It's just the way it is conversely the ACC is a far superior BB conference .
Over the years Pitt has had some very good FB players and I wish I could say Pitts program is better ,but it's not .

 

[SeasonedOne]

It was a great win for Pitt and trust me I'm a Pitt fan ,but PSU just won the Big 10 championship . Pitt FB unlike BB is on the upswing , but until they can generate a similiar atmosphere Pitt will not be able to out recruit programs like PSU . Playing in front of empty seats or 100,000 + fans you can't compare the football experience of the Big 10 to the ACC .
Ps .. Pitt would have never won the B10 this year and it doesn't take anything away from a really good Panther season

What the f***k does fans being in a stadium mean to a recruit? Stop with the "107,000 strong!" schtick please! recruits pick schools for MUCH MORE than asses in seats! Beside, it was "SOLD OUT" at a Heinz Field when PITT beat PoSU! Do you think recruits at that game said "Yea, this is cool, but I it's not loud enough! Need 107,000..." LoL1

 

[SeasonedOne]

Pitt didn't win their conference PSU did . Pitt had a great season one to build on .
Pitt has a top 10 offense and absolutely one of the worst defenses in major college FB . I'm not sure how PITT would fair against teams such as OSU ,Michigan and Wisconsin ,but this team wouldn't have won the B10 championship this season , if you want to think otherwise that's your prerogative . I'd love to see Pitt in a bowl game against a team with a stout defense to see exactly how good their offense is .
Your just making excuses about the attendance issues the B10 is just a far superior FB conference than the ACC . It's just the way it is conversely the ACC is a far superior BB conference .
Over the years Pitt has had some very good FB players and I wish I could say Pitts program is better ,but it's not .

Stop smoking crack, nitter! It aint good for your health! LOL...42-39