People's thoughts on 1 and dones
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Zion should be on an NBA roster averaging 20 a night right now
It's a joke that these kids can't just go straight to work as a professional.
I think u should be allowed to go straight to the draft.. But if u choose college u should have to stay 2 years. None of this 1 and done crap.. Idk just my opinion
I'm not even jealous of these schools that stock with one and dones, it's not their fault the system is stupid.
I do not think there is any reason for it.
It doesn't make sense to me. Where else in life does an organization say you need 1 year of "college" before you can be a professional.
I do not think there is any reason for it.
It doesn't make sense to me. Where else in life does an organization say you need 1 year of "college" before you can be a professional.
If a kid accepts an athletic scholarship from a school, he should be required to be at that school for 3 years minimum or until he graduates, whichever occurs first. If he stays for 1 or 2 years and wants to leave to go pro, he pays back the remainder of his scholarship to the school upon leaving + costs for recruiting a player to take his place.
One and dones are a joke. Those kids should play for a developmental squad and go to the NBA when they're ready. Them even trying to say they're students is a farce.
One and dones are a joke. Those kids should play for a developmental squad and go to the NBA when they're ready. Them even trying to say they're students is a farce.
Do not like the one and done at all. The rich just get richer in recruiting. I don’t think there should be any rule that says if they go they should stay two years. But they should be allowed to enter draft out of high school. I also think if they enter draft out of high school but don’t get drafted they should be allowed to go to college.
This is from October. I think it will be gone but the details are tough because the NBA benefits from the status quo:
On Saturday, Adrian Wojnarowski of ESPN.com reported the NBA is pressing for agents to provide medical information on all potential draft prospects coming out of high school and wants mandatory attendance at the draft combine, with "some level of participation."
One NBA general manager told Wojnarowski teams are worried about making a massive investment in an 18-year-old prospect if they're not given all of the relevant details about their health history.
"We're investing millions of dollars into players who we'll now have even less information about coming out of high school, and we should have the right to have all the information available on who we are selecting," the GM said.
Although the players union has "felt significant pressure from the agent community to resist the NBA's push on ceding control of medical information," the league remains hopeful an agreement can be reached to implement changes beginning with the 2022 draft, per Woj.
On Saturday, Adrian Wojnarowski of ESPN.com reported the NBA is pressing for agents to provide medical information on all potential draft prospects coming out of high school and wants mandatory attendance at the draft combine, with "some level of participation."
One NBA general manager told Wojnarowski teams are worried about making a massive investment in an 18-year-old prospect if they're not given all of the relevant details about their health history.
"We're investing millions of dollars into players who we'll now have even less information about coming out of high school, and we should have the right to have all the information available on who we are selecting," the GM said.
Although the players union has "felt significant pressure from the agent community to resist the NBA's push on ceding control of medical information," the league remains hopeful an agreement can be reached to implement changes beginning with the 2022 draft, per Woj.
I agree with this. I would also allow them the option to enter the NBA draft at the age of 18.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with it, except kids should also be allowed to go straight to the NBA. In general, being exposed to a University setting is good, but the goal of a university is to learn, and get a good job afterwards. Again, if after my senior year a chemical engineering company offered me a mil a year to work for them, you bet my @ss I would be punching a clock the next day. It is capitalism, you have a talent that someone will pay for, maximize that.
U can enter the army at 18, I'm pretty sure basketball is less risky.
Hockey is way more dangerous and kids join the league whenever they're ready.
Sounds like we are all in agreement, with only slight nuances of difference.
Hockey is way more dangerous and kids join the league whenever they're ready.
Sounds like we are all in agreement, with only slight nuances of difference.
If you want to bind a kid to a school for 3 yrs then you need to do two things :
1) bind the coach from leaving to pursue their “dream job “.
2) you want three yrs guaranteed then your going to have to pay them .
There’s absolutely no way the colleges will do either , if your good enough to play in the NBA at 18 go for it . If your good enough to go after 1 or 2 yrs of college go for it .
There’s a lot of money in college bb and while there’s some nice perks being a player they deserve to be compensated with money especially if your limiting their choices .
I find it simple. Just make scholies count for 3 years. Then coaches can only afford 1 per year of these kids or they run out of scholies.
Why is a kid leaving for the NBA any different than a kid transferring for any reason ?
Ps.. don’t forget Adams was a 1 and done , how’d you feel if Pitt got penalized for Adams decision to leave .
While I doubt Coach K and other blue blood coaches tire of winning, I doubt that the winning is as satisfying as it was in the "old days" when players stuck around for 4 years, you groomed them, bonded with them more and made them better. To me that would be the fun of coaching and truly running a program.
I dislike the 1-and-done because it's a flat-out joke that these kids are even remotely "college students". All a kentucky needs to do is push their gravy train kids through one semester; they can basically blow off school after Christmas.
Neither the NBA nor the colleges will change a damn thing. The NBA loves the "free" farm system and the schools that do land the 1-and-dones rake in the cash if said phenoms help them win. Have Nots can cry all they want. Money drives the Rolls, as it always does.
Neither the NBA nor the colleges will change a damn thing. The NBA loves the "free" farm system and the schools that do land the 1-and-dones rake in the cash if said phenoms help them win. Have Nots can cry all they want. Money drives the Rolls, as it always does.
I agree. No problem letting them get on with their life's work and enter the NBA draft right out of high school.
For me, I also think it’s more fun to watch a bunch of kids grow and compete as a team over a number of years also. I don’t think I’d enjoy watching a bunch one one year players every year.
Duke is awesome, but they’re not a “team”
In some ways we did.The program hasn't been the same since he left.Even though Capel is doing his best to get turned back around.
I agree totally. I understand that the college game is all about money now and that the amateur ideal went by the wayside long ago, but the "one and done's" fly in the face of college athletics.
As a Pitt fan I love to win but would much rather see them steer clear of the one and done's.
Folks realize this is a nba collective bargaining issue, right?
The nba limited their options to protect gm’s and Nothing more
The nba limited their options to protect gm’s and Nothing more
The only reason this is an issue is because of the lack of a true minor league system for the NBA. Hockey and baseball players skip college by the thousands. The elite, like Mario, Sid, and McDavid, go straight to the league. Jagr came over here at 18, not speaking a word of English, and no one seemed to be worried about his future, like the whining you hear about young basketball players. If a player makes the mistake of overestimating his position, and isn't drafted, it isn't a tragedy, he's just made his road a bit harder. Young people make bad choices everyday. This pales beside the many 17-18 year olds who will choose to start getting high, or to begin to drink heavily, or enter a life of crime. These are real tragedies, not some hoopster not being drafted.
I’d love a real one and done. These duke guys, Carmelo, I’d love that. But as a pitt fan, our one and done is a Steven Adams type. Complete liability 98% of the year then drafted by a team where is a role player 2 years later.
Those types of one and dones, the Steve Adams types, they can go F themselves.
Those types of one and dones, the Steve Adams types, they can go F themselves.
I think it is dumb. I think it is ridiculous that these kids are denied the right, for one year, to earn a living for their futures and for their families. They risk injury, all so Coach K can safely earn his $8,000,000 per year.
It’s un-American and evil
It’s un-American and evil
They didn’t lose any scholarships they just couldn’t replace him ....on the coach not the player ,
They’re fine as long as you have a HC who is a great recruiter and can refill the pipeline annually. If you’re a guy like Dixon who can’t recruit, then you get one, he jumps and then you have a huge void in your lineup.., you’re better off probably not to have recruited the player in the first place.
I would not care since Pitt only had one, but Duke and Kentucky have 4 most every year. They could not take many kids that will leave or they will have no scholies left for “next year”. What would happen is that the one and drones will spread out over many schools instead of mostly going to 2 schools.
The worlds just not fair . Kids want to go to Duke and Kentucky so why punish the kids or the schools that have developed elite programs . You want one and dones step up your program or just let those kids go directly to the pros and that pretty much solves the problem.
True and it would not take much for the NBA much to set up a few seminars on how to learn how to deal with finances and some simple adult things.
I still haven't seen an argument to dissuade me from my position. If the kid leaves before year 4 for a reason other than graduation, he pays the school for the unused portion of his scholarship + the costs of recruiting a player to replace him. If he's a one and done, that's 3 year's tuition + substantial recruiting costs he'll have to pay. If he wants to play in the pros, do it right after high school. He's on his own then. Most will fail, but they'll learn a life lesson.
Some people are missing my point, but most get it.
This for me, isn't about Duke, or Kentucky.
Good for them.
It's a simple point that if you're good enough to play in a league and make millions, you should be allowed to.
It's like telling anybody they can't go work professionally at age 18, when they are totally qualified. Where else does this system happen?
This for me, isn't about Duke, or Kentucky.
Good for them.
It's a simple point that if you're good enough to play in a league and make millions, you should be allowed to.
It's like telling anybody they can't go work professionally at age 18, when they are totally qualified. Where else does this system happen?
It's as if you don't understand that it's not the players choice.
And no one is trying to dissuade you from your position because, well, quite frankly, it's stupid.
Actually, if all of Kentucky's one and done players blew off school after Christmas Kentucky's APR would go right into the shitter and they would get an NCAA tournament ban. The truly amazing thing is that Calipari can, year after year after year, get his one and done athletes to not only take classes in their second semester, but to pass them. Because if he didn't, this wouldn't happen:
https://coachcal.com/news/2018/5/23...erfect-apr-score-for-fifth-straight-year.aspx
I believe a kid should be able to go straight to nba. Problem is this though: lotta kids think they are better than they are. Its an epidemic . Pretty sure the rule in part helps protect some dumb decisions. I certainly think if players could go straight to NBA, it would help even the playing field. No doubt .
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