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Peppers smartly fakes injury to avoid playing

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Mysterious hamstring injury before the game. As a fan I dont like it but these games, which are for pride only and are mostly meaningless so it is very smart for these guys to avoid risking catastrophic injury in a meaningless game.
 
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Sad state of affairs in college football when turning your back on your team is the smart play.
 
Mysterious hamstring injury before the game. As a fan I dont like it but these games, which are for pride only and are mostly meaningless so it is very smart for these guys to avoid risking catastrophic injury in a meaningless game.
Maybe he actually popped a hamstring
 
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Mysterious hamstring injury before the game. As a fan I dont like it but these games, which are for pride only and are mostly meaningless so it is very smart for these guys to avoid risking catastrophic injury in a meaningless game.

Couldn't agree more! Good for him! "College" football is in need of some serious retooling.
 
Probably cost his team the game, along with Mackey award winner Jake Butt leaving the game early with a very minor looking injury.
 
What kind of insurance do these guys carry against injury?

Are the schools allowed to buy insurance for the athletes? That would be a good benefit to allow the schools to provide.
 
What kind of insurance do these guys carry against injury?

Are the schools allowed to buy insurance for the athletes? That would be a good benefit to allow the schools to provide.
Yes they are. I thought I read somewhere that the NCAA allows that for certain players.
 
Mysterious hamstring injury before the game. As a fan I dont like it but these games, which are for pride only and are mostly meaningless so it is very smart for these guys to avoid risking catastrophic injury in a meaningless game.
for some reason this comes to mind...

 
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This is hilarious. Jake Butt has an ACL or MCL tear. He literally cost himself several million dollars for playing in an exhibition game.
 
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Wish all games were this meaningless. Players..and..coaches gave great effort in this entertaining game. Dalvin Cook gave some very inspirational comments about his team, his coach and the game afterwards. He's good enough to be drafted with an injury but it was refreshing to see someone with that kind of spirit in today's world of sports.
 
Give Peppers a break. Reports were he was crying in locker room and hurt it on Thursday. Maybe he truly was hurt. You dont dress and try it out if your intent is to sit out.

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What a huge fail by the op.

Peppers didn't fake shit.

Saying it's "hilarious" a kid got hurt....

Saying it cost him money two posts after it's stated he has loss of value insurance.

Between you and svp it's like a one stop shop for morons
 
if he didnt want to play he could've gotten "hurt" two weeks ago. Hard to imagine he goes thru all the practices then bags it an hour before kickoff
 
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Would he be any less injured if that had happened in the Ohio State game . . . or for that matter, against one of the Michigan directionals?

This will come next. Remember Clowney hinted he'd skip his junior year for that reason
 
if he didnt want to play he could've gotten "hurt" two weeks ago. Hard to imagine he goes thru all the practices then bags it an hour before kickoff

How do you know the plan all along was to go light during Michigan practices then fake the injury before kickoff so he doesn't look like a quitter?
 
How do you know the plan all along was to go light during Michigan practices then fake the injury before kickoff so he doesn't look like a quitter?

I'd question the team's intent to win if they are spending practice time on a player they have no intention of playing.
 
They're saying he really was injured. I did find it odd though. How hard of a practice are you running the day before the orange bowl for your best player to get hurt? Wouldn't that day be just a walk through of sorts?
 
SMF, this is a tab bit of a reach for me to believe, this injury charade.. I can go so far as to believing that he was borderline and this helped sway his decision, that maybe he plays if it's a mich-osu game. This is an ugly trend, these kids sitting out. I get it but damn if it isn't soft and of course selfish..

if a pitt player did it, I'd have a REAL hard time rooting for that player in the nfl. I'll go so far as to say I'd be happy to see them fail, karma and all..
 
When I was rehabbing for ACL surgery, there was a female that just had surgery for ACL, MCl and PCl which she injured STEPPING OFF OF A CURB onto a street. Not sure why you find it odd..
Freak accidents happen no doubt. But they said he hurt it in practice. All I'm saying is shouldn't that be the practice where you basically line up and just walk through the motions?
 
They don't just walk thru. Catching passes, fielding punts and drills. He hurt his hamstring jumping for a pass. Quite simple. Not sure why people are so worked up over this. The kid was hurt.

Yep. I just see no benefit to faking injury over just announcing they are sitting out like Stanford and LSU did. Who benefits from that? I guess you'd affect opponent's game planning but I'd think the downside is greater if the program was found to be lying. I think Peppers wanted to play in the Orange bowl as it was his final game against an elite opponent.

Also, faking injury could affect Pepper's draft status. Why would he agree to that? Potentially forfeit some big $$$ to save face? I don't buy it.
 
I, for one, got tired of hearing the announcers mention Peppers. Once it became clear that he wasn't playing, he should've become a non-story.
 
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$4m if he never plays again.

He is the Mackey winner and a borderline 1st round pick, projected top 40.

20th is about 3-4mil guarantees and 10 mil over 4.
32nd pick is about 2-3mil guaranteed and 8-9mil over 4.
2nd round is like 1mil guaranteed and 5-6mil over 4 years.
3rd round is 4 years totaling 3mil.
4th round is 4 years totaling 2.5.

The way that I understand the average loss of value contract is that it pays if the total salary drops below the insurance amount and doesn't take guarantee into account. Then the payment is based on the difference in salary and insured amount. Then the amount you receive is prorated based on how many rounds you fell. So if he was a mid 2nd-round pick (have to be top 2 rounds to get the insurance) and drops into the 3rd, he will still lose 1-2 million total and 1-2 million in guaranteed money and 1 mil or so in signing bonus. If he drops below 3rd round he is out millions. Either way the insurance company will fight it and investigate it for months attempting to not pay out, like Marquis Lee (didn't get paid), Ekpre-Olomu (lost $15 million+, got paid $3 million after 11 months), Morgan Breslin (took out injury insurance after his junior season, only played in 5 games the next year due to injury then went undrafted and is now suing the insurer and USC to get the money), etc.

Not sure what happens if he signs a contract then gets cut after the first year or mid-season.
 
This is hilarious. Jake Butt has an ACL or MCL tear. He literally cost himself several million dollars for playing in an exhibition game.

I'd be willing to bet he still goes in the top 2 rounds. He's still a top 3 TE after OJ Howard. He plays TE, not RB....he'll play next year. As an old man tearing bis acl and mcl Heath Miller only missed 2 games in 2013. I expect Butt to heal faster.
 
Mysterious hamstring injury before the game. As a fan I dont like it but these games, which are for pride only and are mostly meaningless so it is very smart for these guys to avoid risking catastrophic injury in a meaningless game.
A thing I find ironic is how some of you claim to love CFB, then root for players to sit out and water down the product?
 
$4m if he never plays again.

He is the Mackey winner and a borderline 1st round pick, projected top 40.

20th is about 3-4mil guarantees and 10 mil over 4.
32nd pick is about 2-3mil guaranteed and 8-9mil over 4.
2nd round is like 1mil guaranteed and 5-6mil over 4 years.
3rd round is 4 years totaling 3mil.
4th round is 4 years totaling 2.5.

The way that I understand the average loss of value contract is that it pays if the total salary drops below the insurance amount and doesn't take guarantee into account. Then the payment is based on the difference in salary and insured amount. Then the amount you receive is prorated based on how many rounds you fell. So if he was a mid 2nd-round pick (have to be top 2 rounds to get the insurance) and drops into the 3rd, he will still lose 1-2 million total and 1-2 million in guaranteed money and 1 mil or so in signing bonus. If he drops below 3rd round he is out millions. Either way the insurance company will fight it and investigate it for months attempting to not pay out, like Marquis Lee (didn't get paid), Ekpre-Olomu (lost $15 million+, got paid $3 million after 11 months), Morgan Breslin (took out injury insurance after his junior season, only played in 5 games the next year due to injury then went undrafted and is now suing the insurer and USC to get the money), etc.

Not sure what happens if he signs a contract then gets cut after the first year or mid-season.

Tight ends like butts don't get drafted very often in the first round. I would think he was a second rounder.

Listening to some of you I think the one posters flag football idea is the best. Totally agree, how is a bowl game any less meaningful than any other game during the year??? And if you're talking only money, who cares if you win a championship?? I won a math championship as a teen with our team, I also played football. Winning that didn't earn me money, but was fun to compete. It's the competition people strive for.
Kids can do.what they want, and I support whatever decision they make. How is conner leaving school early now and forgoing his senior year different than a kid skipping a bowl game? There is big money out there, no need to be upset if some sure fire draftees want to ensure they get theirs.
 
Going forward, starting next year, every star player that skips the bowl game is going to say it's due to an injury. Convienately, it will cover the player, coach and the school.
 
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A thing I find ironic is how some of you claim to love CFB, then root for players to sit out and water down the product?
I love college football, understand why players are doing it but it still annoys me. So in short, I'm all over the place.
 
The skeptic in me would say he didn't look too bummed out when he was up in that luxury box with his nose in his phone all game long. He also said he would've played if the game was Saturday-one day later.

I don't know, I mean my impression of the guy has always been that he's a warrior that would have to be locked in a cell to keep him off the field, but I'm a cynic and this whole thing is fishy, and his post-game comments are as well. One of the things he said was that "everything changed" after he bought insurance on himself earlier this week and he had to "think about everything differently". It's almost as though an agent or insurance guy influenced him.

The tearfulness and emotion after the game might just as well have been guilt for skipping a game that his team lost by one point where he would have had a major impact on the outcome. He's a game changing talent for sure.

Anyway, I hope he's healthy as he seems like a good dude and his future is extemely bright.
 
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Depends on who it is, Steelers are 10-5, without Big Ben, it's 5-10 you idiot. Any team, losing even one player projected as a top draft pick IS watered down, moron,
We don't even have to look that deep. Look what an injury to Pitt's QB did to Pitt's offense in their bowl game.
 
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