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Pitino isn’t used to this…..

Of course Pitino is responsible for the roster. Does that mean he isnt allowed to complain about them? Why do we get our feelings hurt about this?
Don’t you get it, he is complaining that the guys he brought in are not athletic enough for his system. And they were just as not athletic enough when he brought them in. It is his fault! Not the players.
 
Of course Pitino is responsible for the roster. Does that mean he isnt allowed to complain about them? Why do we get our feelings hurt about this?
Why didn't he say I F*cked up in thinking I could replace the guys we had in the portal. I didn't do a good enough job.

Only a moron would run off who they had to bring in schlubs, and then complain about the schlubs. It's not the power forward from Harvard's fault he's being asked to be what he isn't. That's 100% on the coach.
 
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Why didn't he say I F*cked up in thinking I could replace the guys we had in the portal. I didn't do a good enough job.

Only a moron would run off who they had to bring in schlubs, and then complain about the schlubs. It's not the power forward from Harvard's fault he's being asked to be what he isn't. That's 100% on the coach.

Maybe he should have. It doesn't make what he said untrue or wrong for saying it. He was being honest and I appreciate honesty.
 
Wannstedt had a better 3 year run and wouldn't have been stupid enough to run off a quality OC, completely switch away from scoring a zillion points because he wasn't getting the credit, then having to course correct after going 3-9 in one of the biggest drop off's in NCAA history after winning a conference title. Guy is 56-50 vs D1 schools. He's an idiot, as is anyone who defends him.
Stick to basketball. Wannstedt was the born loser, and never won anything when he was in charge.
 
Damon Stoudmire said literally the same thing last night after getting trounced by Clemson. He has zero cred of ever bringing high major kids in or winning at a high major. Let's see if he gets the same energy on his comments...
 
Maybe he should have. It doesn't make what he said untrue or wrong for saying it. He was being honest and I appreciate honesty.
He was being stupid and blaming others for his own ineptitude. He's a POS of a person. Always was and always will be.
 
A three way tie in a watered down 8 team Big East. It was so impressive he was promptly fired. And he won 26 games over 3 years, not 27.
yeah. He also didn't throw his best OC under the bus when he was butthurt he left for LSU, his QB under the bus who had his second most successful season (Slovis), stick with 2 different OC's that stunk but played low scoring games where he thought his defense could shine or constantly antagonize other fan bases and head coaches like James Franklin who is a huge douchebag but also 3-1 against him and has a much better program.

Wanny had tons of faults but he wasn't a complete douche. Narduzzi has tons of faults and is a complete douche.

And the ACC sucks too. It's not like beating Wake Forest in a conference title game is making waves nationally.
 
He was being stupid and blaming others for his own ineptitude. He's a POS of a person. Always was and always will be.

WHO CARES? Why do people get so upset over this? He is a pro basketball coach, not a leader of the free world. He probably is a POS person. So what? He wins basketball games. I'd have him lead my program any day.
 
Wannstedt had a better 3 year run and wouldn't have been stupid enough to run off a quality OC, completely switch away from scoring a zillion points because he wasn't getting the credit, then having to course correct after going 3-9 in one of the biggest drop off's in NCAA history after winning a conference title. Guy is 56-50 vs D1 schools. He's an idiot, as is anyone who defends him.

That's a narrative. Whipple did a great job developing Pickett, but when Kenny left, Whipple was useless. He failed in 3 years to recruit a half decent successor at QB.
Whipple is currently unemployed and his offense was garbage in 2019 and at Nebraska in 2022.

Duzz may be an idiot. He's still the most successful Pitt coach in 40 years.
 
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He won the same amount of conference titles Narduzzi did. and won 27 games in 3 years. Narduzzi blows

No he didn't. Shared title in a watered down Big East with Birmingham Bowl invite to play Kentucky. 😂

Narduzzi's title came in a legit conference and doesn't have Co in front of it.
 
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A three way tie in a watered down 8 team Big East. It was so impressive he was promptly fired. And he won 26 games over 3 years, not 27.
I'm with you on this ... I know Wanny led us to a 3 way tie for first place in the Big East in 2010, but that was a huge underachievement that season given the talent we had compared to the rest of the conference.
 
Don’t you get it, he is complaining that the guys he brought in are not athletic enough for his system. And they were just as not athletic enough when he brought them in. It is his fault! Not the players.


The Athletic has a story about Pitino, and he has literally done this at every single coaching stop, all the way back to Boston U in his first head coaching gig.

In fact one of the fits he threw at Kentucky came after a game that many of us should remember, when Pitt went into Rupp in the pre-season NIT, back when you had to win your preliminary games to make it to the Garden, and Pitt slapped them around, lead by Darren Morningstar's 27 and 10. In fact after the Pitt game he didn't just throw his players under the bus, he threw his assistant coach Billy Donovan under the bus as well.

It's pretty clear that noting bad that ever happens in Pitino's life, basketball or otherwise, it Pitino's fault. Just ask him, he'll tell you.
 
No he didn't. Shared title in a watered down Big East with Birmingham Bowl invite to play Kentucky. 😂

Narduzzi's title came in a legit conference and doesn't have Co in front of it.

The bowl game Pitt went to is irrelevant. Bids are given out based on fan travel. The old Big East was better than the Coastal. I dont think anyone could deny that. Duzz won a weak division and then didnt have to beat a top Clemson/FSU team. We did beat Clemson at home in a down year for them
 
The bowl game Pitt went to is irrelevant. Bids are given out based on fan travel. The old Big East was better than the Coastal. I dont think anyone could deny that. Duzz won a weak division and then didnt have to beat a top Clemson/FSU team. We did beat Clemson at home in a down year for them

One team went 7-5 and the other was 11-2.
 
The only people who could deny that are the ones who remember how bad the Big East actually was after the good teams left.

WVU with Rich Rod
Louisville with Petrino
Rutgers with Schiano
USF with Leavitt
Cincy with Kelly
Even UConn was decent.

That league was light years better than the Coastal. Light years.
 
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The bowl game Pitt went to is irrelevant. Bids are given out based on fan travel. The old Big East was better than the Coastal. I dont think anyone could deny that. Duzz won a weak division and then didnt have to beat a top Clemson/FSU team. We did beat Clemson at home in a down year for them
Legit league and ACC when we had an undefeated team not go to the final 4 smh
 
He's a numbnuts. But what he said is what managers say in corporate America about their employees when not performing acceptably. Usually after saying that, some are fired. That is what should happen to his team. They are now professionals, getting paid to play basketball. They're not doing their jobs. Pull their scholarships and whatever NIL they are getting after the season. Then go in the portal and get replacements.

Players are disposable. That is the cruel reality of college sports now. If a player isn't playing up to expectations, get rid of them and get someone else. This isn't college sports any longer.

What about him? Is he doing his job? He gets paid more than they do to win. He chose this roster.

In the clip he blames the university, the players, even his coaches, not him though.
 
WVU with Rich Rod
Louisville with Petrino
Rutgers with Schiano
USF with Leavitt
Cincy with Kelly
Even UConn was decent.

That league was light years better than the Coastal. Light years.

The Big East sucked.

And let's be factual. RichRod and Petrino left the Big East after the 2007 season. Kelly left after 2008.
 
He said his team was non-athletic. What are they supposed to do about that? They can’t all of a sudden run faster and jump higher and become quicker. They are what they were when he recruited them. He is shifting responsibility from himself onto his team.

Recruiting them is on him. How they play as professionals is on the players. If they aren't playing as required to win, cut their NIL's. If they still don't improve, fire them, cut them loose and recruit new players.

I'm sick and tired of coddling of these professional players. If they don't like it, don't accept NIL's and play for the sport. Pitino has to take responsibility for poor recruiting. But the players are getting paid to do their jobs. In corporate America, if you don't do your job and it's a habit, you get fired. That's what college sports is now.
 
The Big East sucked.

And let's be factual. RichRod and Petrino left the Big East after the 2007 season. Kelly left after 2008.


And Shiano is considered a success only because he literally scheduled his team four wins every season in the non-conference and because of how generally awful Rutgers has been in their football history, to the point where him just being a little better than mediocre got those people to think he's a god.
 
yeah. He also didn't throw his best OC under the bus when he was butthurt he left for LSU, his QB under the bus who had his second most successful season (Slovis), stick with 2 different OC's that stunk but played low scoring games where he thought his defense could shine or constantly antagonize other fan bases and head coaches like James Franklin who is a huge douchebag but also 3-1 against him and has a much better program.

Wanny had tons of faults but he wasn't a complete douche. Narduzzi has tons of faults and is a complete douche.

And the ACC sucks too. It's not like beating Wake Forest in a conference title game is making waves nationally.

Like I said, stick to Basketball.

Slovis wasn't good, and subsequently got benched at BYU for some nobody.

Canada and Whipple left for significantly more money than Pitt was ever going to pay them. Whipple was recruiting for Nebraska while making a trip on Pitt's dime. Oh, and both got fired the season after leaving Pitt.

The BE in Wanny's last few years was bad. The 2010 BE was a disgrace.

I like Wanny, just not as a HC.
 
WHO CARES? Why do people get so upset over this? He is a pro basketball coach, not a leader of the free world. He probably is a POS person. So what? He wins basketball games. I'd have him lead my program any day.

Who is upset? You see to be the one typing in caps. He is a POS, there's no probably.
 
Like I said, stick to Basketball.

Slovis wasn't good, and subsequently got benched at BYU for some nobody.

Canada and Whipple left for significantly more money than Pitt was ever going to pay them. Whipple was recruiting for Nebraska while making a trip on Pitt's dime. Oh, and both got fired the season after leaving Pitt.

The BE in Wanny's last few years was bad. The 2010 BE was a disgrace.

I like Wanny, just not as a HC.
Why would I stick to basketball? The way narduzzi acts as a guy who is 56-50 against D1 competition is a Buffoon. There’s a reason he can’t get any decent local talent to come here unless they fail elsewhere. He sucks. He took an 11 win team in the freaking ACC to 2 D1 wins within 2 years. It’s unprecedented. How do people think 56-50 is worth 4.5 million? They could pay better coaches half that
 
Why would I stick to basketball? The way narduzzi acts as a guy who is 56-50 against D1 competition is a Buffoon. There’s a reason he can’t get any decent local talent to come here unless they fail elsewhere. He sucks. He took an 11 win team in the freaking ACC to 2 D1 wins within 2 years. It’s unprecedented. How do people think 56-50 is worth 4.5 million? They could pay better coaches half that

What exactly is unprecedented?
 
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What exactly is unprecedented?
Going from an ACC title to 2 D1 wins in 2 years? It’s an embarrassment. I couldn’t care less if you come up with other examples. He’s a joke.

You guys are right. We’re awesome. 56-50 against D1 competition is awesome! Pitt football losing every wpial kid to psu is awesome. Hiring an entire FCS staff is awesome. Yay Narduzzi! Can’t wait to hear who he throws under the bus this year!
 
Going from an ACC title to 2 D1 wins in 2 years? It’s an embarrassment. I couldn’t care less if you come up with other examples. He’s a joke.

You guys are right. We’re awesome. 56-50 against D1 competition is awesome! Pitt football losing every wpial kid to psu is awesome. Hiring an entire FCS staff is awesome. Yay Narduzzi! Can’t wait to hear who he throws under the bus this year!

I honestly think that the reduction of 7 wins (if we dont count the extra ACCCG) in 2 years with the same staff is a record.
 
I don't care what "clout" you have, it doesn't make it right to say those things IMO. I don't want to get political but no one has more clout in the free world than the US President, but that doesn't mean our president should say inappropriate things.
i agree with you. Just pointing out that when you are a giant in your field you can get away with saying things publicly that others can't. Not suggesting that it's right or appropriate to do so.

Hell, if Pitino weren't as big in college basketball as he is, he wouldn't even have a job right now after what went down at Louisville.
 
Billy Donovan is also a better coach than Rick Pitino.
That's arguable, but may be true.

If i was hiring and had my choice between the two, I would pick Donovan 100% of the time, and not just because he's a lot younger.
 
Who is responsible for the roster? Who brought a power forward in from Harvard to start, and is now complaining about his play?

Mike Anderson was 18-15 last year and 17-15 the year before. It's not like they were a doormat.
And that's about where they will finish this year, with a bunch of scrubs Pitino threw together on short notice.

2-3 games over .500, 15-24 in league play, 7-8 in a 10 team league ain't great. I would argue that SJU was pretty much the definition of a doormat the last 2 years.
 
I've heard about that Lonesome Loser......beaten by Brian Kelly ev'ry time.....

He was 2-2 vs Kelly and a few of those Cincy teams were really good. Duzz figured out a way to lose a home game to a Cincinnati team which finished dead last in the Big 12 at 1-8 with a loss to Miami Ohio to boot.
 
I'm not really all that interested in Narduzzi or football at this point. He's ruined our program and he's a mediocre 7-5 or 6-6 coach, that's it. The one ACC title was a freak accident with Pickett leading it, and we don't have any talent worth talking about now.

We need to take all of the NIL money from football and reallocate it to basketball to keep the players we need to keep and get better ones there to keep that program rising. I know that won't happen because the administration won't do it. So with football, it will be more of the same mediocrity because of the lack of talent and coaching.
 
Why would I stick to basketball? The way narduzzi acts as a guy who is 56-50 against D1 competition is a Buffoon. There’s a reason he can’t get any decent local talent to come here unless they fail elsewhere. He sucks. He took an 11 win team in the freaking ACC to 2 D1 wins within 2 years. It’s unprecedented. How do people think 56-50 is worth 4.5 million? They could pay better coaches half that
Wanny never had to deal with coming of an 11 win season. He got his co-conference championship while friggin UConn was crowned conference champ.

You turned a Pitino thread into a bitch fest about Narduzzi, while pining for Wanny. LOL
 
Wanny never had to deal with coming of an 11 win season. He got his co-conference championship while friggin UConn was crowned conference champ.

You turned a Pitino thread into a bitch fest about Narduzzi, while pining for Wanny. LOL

Narduzzi had the best season in 4 decades. Narduzzi is a medicore coach. Narduzzi was very fortunate for the Covid year or else it wouldn't have happened. All can be true.
 
Recruiting them is on him. How they play as professionals is on the players. If they aren't playing as required to win, cut their NIL's. If they still don't improve, fire them, cut them loose and recruit new players.

I'm sick and tired of coddling of these professional players. If they don't like it, don't accept NIL's and play for the sport. Pitino has to take responsibility for poor recruiting. But the players are getting paid to do their jobs. In corporate America, if you don't do your job and it's a habit, you get fired. That's what college sports is now.
If he is requiring them to play a style which they are not athletically capable of doing, how is that their fault? They cannot suddenly become more athletic. Aren't coaches supposed to put their players in positions to be successful, not put them in situations which they are not capable of handling?
 
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