There’s no reason to believe we go 7-5. The conference has absolutely collapsed.
and the metrics say we are legit good up to this point.
where are the 4 losses coming from?
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There’s no reason to believe we go 7-5. The conference has absolutely collapsed.
and the metrics say we are legit good up to this point.
where are the 4 losses coming from?
It is okay if we let praise get to our heads because we do NOT actually play in the games!!
I agree, kind of like 13-9 gave a small boost and we signed, Saddler, Hayle & Baldwin. May not have happened without that win.
Lots of very strange things would have to happen to make the playoffs, but I think a 1-loss ACC champion would probably get in over a 2-loss conference runner up.
the good thing is the three hardest are at home. Bad thing is home field advantage hasn't really helped much. I say at least 1 win of those 3, and 1 loss from #4 to finish 8-4. But I really want to believe this year is different and it will be a 9-3 or 10-2.
I think style of wins will go a long way. If Pitt consistently puts up 40-50 they will look a lot more appealing for ratings than winning 17-13 defensive games. Root for PAC12 chaos, B12 chaos, and even SEC chaos. I think Georgia has a better shot at 11-2 with Bama 12-1 rather than 13-0. If Bama runs the table and Georgia picks up an extra loss, are they really that elite? Or, if Bama or Georgia wins by more than 10 or 14 against each other, not sure how many want to see that rematch.
This Pitt team does remind me a little of 2009 Cincinnati. Great QB, big play WRs, but no defense. If Pitt can score 40 every game, they will win most, if not all.
Agreed… I think WMU will win the MAC hands down
should we have lost? No
should everyone by now be putting this game into perspective? Yes.
Well that’s not true. You said Pitt fans are “special”
So you must be comparing them to something. Maybe you don’t care about making sense either. 😉
Frankly our team is NOWHERE near good enough to run the table. zippo chance.
If this happens, just enter Narduzzi into the PA hall of fame and give him a fat contract immediately. I say this, but really, there is no chance this will happen. I would still be ecstatic with an 8-4 or 9-3 record
At seasons start I would not have thought so. They may not be great defensively, but just good enough given how awful the whole league is. They still almost won the game they lost with 3 turnovers because of the offense. It is rolling better earlier on than in 2016 when it really started picking up late season. Barring injuries, I hope 9-3 is floor.
I know, I see what you mean, BUT.
- Can we beat a team like Clemson who actually DOES have a great defense? Our defense is not great, and youd have to think Clemson can score 24 on us.
- Can we beat teams with a fantastic QB like UNC. WMU has a fantastic QB and he picked us apart.
- Can we overcome a hostile environment like VT? Tenn was not super hostile, loud yes, hostile no
- Can we be consistent and beat Duke, Cuse, Virginia and actually win against Miami who has our number? Youd have to think we would go 3-1 against this group, 1-2 or 2-1 vs the top group. If you think 3-1 is low balled, our chance to win out aginst these 4 are 20%. That means in 5 seasons of playing these 4 teams, one season we would win out.
We arent getting to the opposing QB like in years past, we arent as stoudt against the run as we were in years back. Our secondary is not has experienced. We just dont have the defense we had in years past when our offense sucked. And the offense is good, but we still cant run the ball. No way Pickett can throw for 400 yards 4 tds and no picks every game, while still eluding getting hurt from our line.
I just dont see how we are a sure bet in any game remaining on our schedule, we have too many holes.
The one thing I do like is we are young on D so, we should get better throughout the season, as our OLine should too.
It’ll also be interesting to see how we fare against the RPO as the season goes on. As much that game frustrated me, I may consider it “water under the bridge” if it saves us from a few losses down the line.
And losing all three is a possibility. We have had great wins against those teams but also loses. When have we beaten all three in tue past.
Really...no way? What guaranteed loss would you like to go on record for? I'm not trying to be cute I just want to know who you think we absolutely can't beat?
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I think Yellen is 4th unless they changed the depth chart. I don't think any of the back ups are "horrible" but an immobile qb scares me so Yellen is the odd man out for me.
I am not trying to be smart either, but, who would you go on record as saying is a guaranteed win? There is no way you can guarantee we win them all. We can beat them all, I agree. We could also lose half of them. I am hoping for 9-3, anything above would just be icing on the cake, anything below would add to years of disappointment.
I don't guarantee anything I just responded to you saying "No Way" but perhaps what you really meant was highly improbable based on your personal experience as a Pitt fan. I think they are quite "capable" of running the table and they are currently favored to do so. I don't know if they have had a better chance of being 11-1 in the last(fill in whatever time frame seems appropriate). I plan to approach each game expecting to win and I think you will too because from what I can tell you are a REAL Pitt fan. I wouldn't say that about all posters. Anyways I think both of us hope you're wrong.
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undefeated Cincinnati versus 2-loss Georgia? Cinci every day, twice on Sunday
What powerhouse program is on the Bearcat's schedule this weekend?
probably someone better than who Georgia is playing on Nov. 20.
EDIT: actually the last 4 are a real murderers row, Missouri, Tennessee & Georgia Tech included.
If a playoff spot came down to undefeated Cincinnati or 1-loss Pitt. Who would you invite?
I think Tennessee & Georgia Tech would both do a lot of damage in the mighty AAC.
Are you guys watching a different UNC than I am?
Because this year they don’t look like anything… ? GT sacked them 8 times (!!)
I’m still not sure if Clemson is really in a bad situation or if they haven’t put it together yet this year.
Miami is a disaster… slightly better than FSU
VT is the only game that matters. More important than Clemson at this point. Period.
Because this year they don’t look like anything… ? GT sacked them 8 times (!!)
I’m still not sure if Clemson is really in a bad situation or if they haven’t put it together yet this year.
Miami is a disaster… slightly better than FSU
VT is the only game that matters. More important than Clemson at this point. Period.
not at all, some of us do more than post all night. What are you saying is the full scenario? Undefeated SEC, undefeated Big 10, 1-Loss ACC champ, undefeated Big 12, 2-loss PAC 12 and Undefeated AAC? Of course the 4 P5 champs with the best records.
Let's keep it simple. If a playoff spot were between undefeated Cincinnati & 1-loss Pitt, who should get in?
Pitt would get in since that scenario would have meant we beat:
TN
MIAMI
GT
VT
UNC
Clemson
UVA
+ most likely Clemson again in the ACC Championship
As of right now, isn't the atlantic favorite to make the ACC Championship NC State? Talk about teams we never seem to beat, they seem to have our number above everyone.
If we were to win-out, I feel like our best bet would be for an undefeated Wake Forest to come out of the Atlantic Division (what a crazy world we live in!).
part of the cincy question ties to how ND performs the rest of the way. If ND loses this week at virginia tech it tarnishes thier only top 25 win. Unfortunately ND doesnt have a ton left on their schedule GT, UNC, Virginia (more losses to ACC teams does further help us)
Probably Cincinnati.
Most years I wouldn't say that, but the ACC is so bad that the end computer/statistical strength of schedule will be about the same so you'd likely go with the team with one less loss (fair) and that has been ranked highly all season (unfair).
I mean I don't like it, but Pitt is around #30 in the coaches/AP polls now and Cinci is #5/#6. It would be hard to leap-frog, especially since Clemson isn't the usual Clemson right now.
Yeah it furthers my dislike of preseason rankings. Like what if the two highest G5 are Coastal Carolina and WMU? Both won at Buffalo, but WMU lost to Michigan. WMU would have one loss, but an argument could be made they are the more deserving team with a more convincing win at Buffalo and Pitt. But WMU is no where near Coastal Carolina in the rankings. We saw last year an undefeated Cinci lose to a two loss Georgia... Their wins haven’t really been convincing as Indiana has sputtered and ND may do so as well. I feel like BYU has more of a case if they run the table as they would have beaten like 7 P5 teams.
When we look back on this season that loss will be "same old Pitt" or a turning point for the season. Call me crazy, but I think it was a good thing to happen... They have a spark under their ass and it woke Narduzzi up. He may not publicly admit it, but I feel he is back to calling the defense.
All fair points, and I hate the pre-season rankings too. That said, I hope we win enough to get into the first CFP rankings and see what the playoff committee thinks about Cincinnati. They sometimes deviate quite a bit from the AP and Coaches polls at least. Our main hope would be they treat Cinci like they did last year, when they had 9-0 Cincinnati below 8-3 Florida.
Of course the main difference is Florida had an intense schedule last year where all 12 games were against the SEC, and ours this year is pretty easy so not exactly apples to apples. Colley Matrix has our current strength of schedule as 101st, though obviously it should improve a lot after V Tech and Clemson. Now just have to win those :|
I love speculation…BUT, the only game that matters is the next one. And it’s going to be tough going into Blacksburg and coming out with a W.
Agree, Georgia has a powerhouse schedule, they definitely deserve a slot even with one loss. They are murdering Auburn today, who only loss to PSU cause of a horrible call. No doubt Georgia is better than PSU
