Pitt seemed to have a great weekend

[President Stache]

many recruits raving about the weekend again. Several looking like they will commit. This staff and the new facilities are just outstanding.

I think it will, if not already, will be any defensive star that wants to commit better commit soon or might lose out on a schollie. You read the articles about these DB. DL and LB and seems all are very impressed. But only so many we can take right? I can see in the future we will have more early commits just because kids will be afraid of losing out.

 

[thebadby2]

many recruits raving about the weekend again. Several looking like they will commit. This staff and the new facilities are just outstanding.

I think it will, if not already, will be any defensive star that wants to commit better commit soon or might lose out on a schollie. You read the articles about these DB. DL and LB and seems all are very impressed. But only so many we can take right? I can see in the future we will have more early commits just because kids will be afraid of losing out.

A great weekend means we had a commit or two. Recruits raving about it means nothing. That's what they say about every visit when pressed by the Pitt media tyupes.

 

[Swervin27]

many recruits raving about the weekend again. Several looking like they will commit. This staff and the new facilities are just outstanding..

Who are the several recruits that look like they will be committing? I ask in seriousness, I actually left the house this weekend and did something outside.. So im good til sept.

 

[bobfree]

They did have a great weekend, good post.

Several kids from this weekend will end up committing and several have already committed to revisit.

You don't have to be a wet blanket...

 

[President Stache]

Who are the several recruits that look like they will be committing? I ask in seriousness, I actually left the house this weekend and did something outside.. So im good til sept.

Well, I say just check out pittsburghsportsnow. I wont write info on other sites here.

I will say there are several consistencies throughout the past 2 years:

-Kids say everything is extremely organized. In a good way
-Kids say the staff is funny, friendly and work together well.
-Everyone raving about the facilities, the practice fields, and of course the relationship with the steelers.
-Visits this time of year always have people raving about how beautiful the city is. I think it is good to get all these kids in now, as January in the burgh is certainly less attractive.

 

[vegasgreed]

One to keep an eye on is charles reaves(not sure if I got spelling right). Right at 30 offers, including a Bama offer. At a position of need to boot.

At the end of the day, it only counts if they become commitments. It is a positive sign to see the talent coming in for visits.

 

[thebadby2]

One to keep an eye on is charles reaves(not sure if I got spelling right). Right at 30 offers, including a Bama offer. At a position of need to boot.

At the end of the day, it only counts if they become commitments. It is a positive sign to see the talent coming in for visits.

Hope the staff isn't over-selling--this caught my eye:

“I would grade the day an A, the most impressive thing I learned from the visit was that Pitt has the number 1 business school in the country,” said Singleton.

 

[Bradlib Zannamaker]

Hope the staff isn't over-selling--this caught my eye:

“I would grade the day an A, the most impressive thing I learned from the visit was that Pitt has the number 1 business school in the country,” said Singleton.

Haha. I saw that too. I'm a graduate of that program and can tell you that it isn't even top 50.... or at least it wasn't while I was there. Still a decent program though. Maybe he was referring to some specialty program that is highly ranked...

 

[steved71]

Hope the staff isn't over-selling--this caught my eye:

“I would grade the day an A, the most impressive thing I learned from the visit was that Pitt has the number 1 business school in the country,” said Singleton.

I thought that was Trump University.

 

[Jeffburgh]

Well, I say just check out pittsburghsportsnow. I wont write info on other sites here.

I will say there are several consistencies throughout the past 2 years:

-Kids say everything is extremely organized. In a good way
-Kids say the staff is funny, friendly and work together well.
-Everyone raving about the facilities, the practice fields, and of course the relationship with the steelers.
-Visits this time of year always have people raving about how beautiful the city is. I think it is good to get all these kids in now, as January in the burgh is certainly less attractive.

For 17 year olds, most of these kids know what to and how to say things.
A lot of what they say are fairly standard for any visit.
That said, the themes you note do seem to be hit on most of the time and seem genuine.

I don't think that the vibe is that they will get any commits too soon, just plugging along.

They are at 8, which is pretty much where they were last year. They are still offering and offering to some guys with limited offers. But, at some point they have to tighten up and try to hold out to close on more contested guys - they got commitments from half the class the last three months last year.

 

[President Stache]

Well, certainly disagree there. The vibe is the exact opposite. Plus we are having 3 star kids waiting for offers. Another sign that our recruiting has hit a new level.
And 17 year olds 'know what to say?' ... I dont even know how to respond to that. I interviewed 42 adults the past month for 8 production jobs (supervisory), most all with decent resumes, and I am guessing about 4 of them 'knew what to say'. From reading story after story on these websites for the past 10 years, I think they dont know what to say. The positive vibes radiating from each of these camps is beyond what we ever seen before, and for good reason... the staff is WELL prepared, they are witty and knowledgeable, the facilities are FAR better and we have had success on the field and with our alums in the NFL. It is a good situation.

 

[wbrpanther]

A great weekend means we had a commit or two. Recruits raving about it means nothing. That's what they say about every visit when pressed by the Pitt media tyupes.

That's it badby. Where's this guy get off trying to be optimistic on this board. Way to set him strait.

 

[VincePITT]

Pitt has a long offer list here on Panther-lair. I would like to see most of Pitt's recruit commit early, but they still have a long way to go til LOI day!

 

[pitt-girl]

Haha. I saw that too. I'm a graduate of that program and can tell you that it isn't even top 50.... or at least it wasn't while I was there. Still a decent program though. Maybe he was referring to some specialty program that is highly ranked...

I have no idea what the rank is but I do know it is very hard to get into the Business School as an incoming freshman.

 

[thebadby2]

That's it badby. Where's this guy get off trying to be optimistic on this board. Way to set him strait.

Please, spare the sanctimonious bullshit. It's all the same old post-visit lip service. The only thing that matters is who eventually signs on the line which is dotted. Please provide me with a list of prospects over the years who made less than enthusiastic statements to the homer media after visiting Pitt, or for that matter ANY OTHER SCHOOL.Read the comments from. the Alabama weekend visits orr the Tenple visits and you'll see it's all the same thing. I won't wait up too late for that list.

And not sure where you get off referencing George Strait in this Pitt football discussion, but it's not about optimism or pessimism, it's about 30 years of the same old $hit. Forgive me for wanting to be shown the money before I go full retard slappy over some 17 year old kid's statements to Peak or Vuc about how awesome his summer weekend visit to Pitt was after he leaves without verballing. Come on now.

I'm sorry but if that's a great weekend for Pitt football it's quite a statement as to the state of the program and its fan base.

 

[TD_istheman]

YINZERISM, exactly like what the PSU idiots do about their recruiting weekend , well minus the child rape

 

[Jeffburgh]

Well, certainly disagree there. The vibe is the exact opposite. Plus we are having 3 star kids waiting for offers. Another sign that our recruiting has hit a new level.
And 17 year olds 'know what to say?' ... I dont even know how to respond to that. I interviewed 42 adults the past month for 8 production jobs (supervisory), most all with decent resumes, and I am guessing about 4 of them 'knew what to say'. From reading story after story on these websites for the past 10 years, I think they dont know what to say. The positive vibes radiating from each of these camps is beyond what we ever seen before, and for good reason... the staff is WELL prepared, they are witty and knowledgeable, the facilities are FAR better and we have had success on the field and with our alums in the NFL. It is a good situation.

A few things.

First, I don't need lectured on how positive things appear to be right now, I agreed on that because I think the overall tone to the program is very positive..

Second, you are flat wrong about these kids, and if you were anywhere but in a bubble that is all Pitt, you would see they are very adapt at saying really positive things about 99% of their visits. You just have to have some capacity to not be a complete homer and weed through it to see where they really seem to be hot, while others really play a great game of poker, or genuinely don't know.

Third, I posted that the vibe was that there probably were not going to be any commits soon, just plugging along. Its been 48 hours, and ... no commits. so clearly there hasn't been a windfall of commits from this past weekend. This class is going to take 22 or so kids, they already have 8 commits. That means they have 14 or so more to fill out the class, and seven months to signing day. Last year, they got over a dozen of their commits after Thanksgiving. They still have some offers out there, and in fact have given offers to some kids who are not highly recruited, and they might take a couple more of kids like that. But, they are going to hit a point soon where they are going to wait out and compete for kids who have a lot of options and are going to take longer to figure out what they want to do.

 

[OriginalEther]

Please, spare the sanctimonious bullshit. It's all the same old post-visit lip service. The only thing that matters is who eventually signs on the line which is dotted. Please provide me with a list of prospects over the years who made less than enthusiastic statements to the homer media after visiting Pitt, or for that matter ANY OTHER SCHOOL.Read the comments from. the Alabama weekend visits orr the Tenple visits and you'll see it's all the same thing. I won't wait up too late for that list.

And not sure where you get off referencing George Strait in this Pitt football discussion, but it's not about optimism or pessimism, it's about 30 years of the same old $hit. Forgive me for wanting to be shown the money before I go full retard slappy over some 17 year old kid's statements to Peak or Vuc about how awesome his summer weekend visit to Pitt was after he leaves without verballing. Come on now.

I'm sorry but if that's a great weekend for Pitt football it's quite a statement as to the state of the program and its fan base.

Yep. I mean, hell the same fans ran off the most successful coach in the past 40 years partly because Jamie Dixon often finished second for targets also. I'd wager those guys also had great weekend visits.

 

[Teh Teh]

A few things.

First, I don't need lectured on how positive things appear to be right now, I agreed on that because I think the overall tone to the program is very positive..

Second, you are flat wrong about these kids, and if you were anywhere but in a bubble that is all Pitt, you would see they are very adapt at saying really positive things about 99% of their visits. You just have to have some capacity to not be a complete homer and weed through it to see where they really seem to be hot, while others really play a great game of poker, or genuinely don't know.

Third, I posted that the vibe was that there probably were not going to be any commits soon, just plugging along. Its been 48 hours, and ... no commits. so clearly there hasn't been a windfall of commits from this past weekend. This class is going to take 22 or so kids, they already have 8 commits. That means they have 14 or so more to fill out the class, and seven months to signing day. Last year, they got over a dozen of their commits after Thanksgiving. They still have some offers out there, and in fact have given offers to some kids who are not highly recruited, and they might take a couple more of kids like that. But, they are going to hit a point soon where they are going to wait out and compete for kids who have a lot of options and are going to take longer to figure out what they want to do.

I guess we will be serving crow today. Frankly I think the op is correct. Big difference between the usual 'they had very nice facilities and a good school and they will be right up there with everyone on my list' and 'great visit, they are at the top of my list, every detail was well planned and the coaches treat you like family'.

That isn't homerism, it's observationalism. Yeah some guys in the past talked like that then they committed. These kids are easy to read if you actually try to read them. The exception are the very highly ranked ones that are being coached and sought after by everyone.

 

[Malachi Constant]

Yep. I mean, hell the same fans ran off the most successful coach in the past 40 years partly because Jamie Dixon often finished second for targets also. I'd wager those guys also had great weekend visits.

The fans running off Jamie Dixon is a narrative I seem repeated, but I have never seen anything to support it. Can you point me to anything that Jamie has said that supports this?

 

[Jeffburgh]

I guess we will be serving crow today. Frankly I think the op is correct. Big difference between the usual 'they had very nice facilities and a good school and they will be right up there with everyone on my list' and 'great visit, they are at the top of my list, every detail was well planned and the coaches treat you like family'.

That isn't homerism, it's observationalism. Yeah some guys in the past talked like that then they committed. These kids are easy to read if you actually try to read them. The exception are the very highly ranked ones that are being coached and sought after by everyone.

I will definitely concede them getting this kid.

He had never been up before, so I didn't see that coming.

Sorry, but, despite the need to have the good vs bad stupidity, I clearly stated in my original reply that the themes noted were definitely there, and I have noted that repeatedly here and the payside that the vibe is very good with the program right now.

My point stands, the commitments are likely to slow down a good bit with them not pulling the trigger on as many kids with lighter competition and settling into longer arching battles to get the kids who have a lot more majors battling for them.

 

[OriginalEther]

The fans running off Jamie Dixon is a narrative I seem repeated, but I have never seen anything to support it. Can you point me to anything that Jamie has said that supports this?

I'm guessing you haven't read the hoops board over the past five years.....

 

[Malachi Constant]

I'm guessing you haven't read the hoops board over the past five years.....

It should be simple to provide me links then where Jamie said the fans impacted his decision to leave Pitt for TCU?

 

[OriginalEther]

It should be simple to provide me links then where Jamie said the fans impacted his decision to leave Pitt for TCU?

You're not actually dense enough to think that he....or any other coach....would come out and say that, are you?
I guess you also believe that TCU is actually his dream job, alma mater or not.

 

[Malachi Constant]

You're not actually dense enough to think that he....or any other coach....would come out and say that, are you?
I guess you also believe that TCU is actually his dream job, alma mater or not.

So you've decided to attack my person instead of providing any backing whatsoever on your claim? That is a pretty good tell your claim has no basis.

It always amazes me how much more of a role the average fan thinks they play in the day to day happenings in sports.

 

[thebadby2]

I will definitely concede them getting this kid.

He had never been up before, so I didn't see that coming.

Sorry, but, despite the need to have the good vs bad stupidity, I clearly stated in my original reply that the themes noted were definitely there, and I have noted that repeatedly here and the payside that the vibe is very good with the program right now.

My point stands, the commitments are likely to slow down a good bit with them not pulling the trigger on as many kids with lighter competition and settling into longer arching battles to get the kids who have a lot more majors battling for them.

I agree with your thoughts. No question there is an energy and positivity emanating from within the program that we haven't seen in decades. That;s all Narduzzi, that's who he is and what he does, and it's been sorely needed around here for a long time. I think nearly all of us believe we have the right guy, things are looking up and there has been tangible evidence of that, starting with the first 8 win season in a long time. That said, the clomments of the kids coming out of thes\e camps and weekewnd visits may b

Yep. I mean, hell the same fans ran off the most successful coach in the past 40 years partly because Jamie Dixon often finished second for targets also. I'd wager those guys also had great weekend visits.

There is no second place prize in the recruiting game.

 

[pitt-girl]

So you've decided to attack my person instead of providing any backing whatsoever on your claim? That is a pretty good tell your claim has no basis.

It always amazes me how much more of a role the average fan thinks they play in the day to day happenings in sports.

Perhaps he wasn't referencing "average" fans. And as it is with most surprising coaching changes, you're not going to find a quote with the actual story, but that doesn't mean there aren't those who are privy to more of the details. Just because they can't point to an article in USA Today doesn't make their info invalid.

Re: Dixon, there are enough insiders here who have painted a broad picture of what transpired, but in the end there is no doubt it was Dixon's choice to go to TCU.

 

[OriginalEther]

So you've decided to attack my person instead of providing any backing whatsoever on your claim? That is a pretty good tell your claim has no basis.

It always amazes me how much more of a role the average fan thinks they play in the day to day happenings in sports.

Lol...whatever.

Of course, you're missing the whole point anyways. Which is, being the first runner up for a recruit doesn't mean a whole lot. Didn't do Paul Chryst any favors here either.

 

[Malachi Constant]

Perhaps he wasn't referencing "average" fans. And as it is with most surprising coaching changes, you're not going to find a quote with the actual story, but that doesn't mean there aren't those who are privy to more of the details. Just because they can't point to an article in USA Today doesn't make their info invalid.

Re: Dixon, there are enough insiders here who have painted a broad picture of what transpired, but in the end there is no doubt it was Dixon's choice to go to TCU.

Most insiders are deciphering at what Jamie was thinking based upon their knowledge of the situation. The collective of this information does paint a broad picture, but nobody can read Jamie's mind. But I do agree with your general sentiment especially in regards to generous donors, but I do not agree with the idea that Jamie was "run off".

 

[pitt-girl]

Most insiders are deciphering at what Jamie was thinking based upon their knowledge of the situation. The collective of this information does paint a broad picture, but nobody can read Jamie's mind. But I do agree with your general sentiment especially in regards to generous donors, but I do not agree with the idea that Jamie was "run off".

Totally your prerogative, but that doesn't discount those who do feel there is more to the story based on information disseminated here and elsewhere.

 

[Malachi Constant]

Totally your prerogative, but that doesn't discount those who do feel there is more to the story based on information disseminated here and elsewhere.

It's completely possible to have two different opinions based upon the information out there. I respect someone having a different opinion than me on the subject.

 

[raleighpanther]

Badby's comment that after 30 years, wanting to be shown the money first is a fair position. But I would add that in terms of putting together a very good recruiting class, Narduzzi has already shown us the money. Its my opinion, at least, that his 2016 class is the best one we've had in 30 years. With the momentum and good national press coverage, there is no reason to think this year's class won't be as good or better than the last one.

Yes, I know, the 2016 class hasn't done anything on the field yet, but from where we sit now, after just one year under PN, this class looks extremely promising. I think we had 7-8 guys who were given 4 stars by at least one of the recruiting services, and more importantly, most of our three star guys look way better than many of our past 3 star guys. It wouldn't surprise me if 3 star guys like Campbell end up having tremendous careers.

 

[thebadby2]

Badby's comment that after 30 years, wanting to be shown the money first is a fair position. But I would add that in terms of putting together a very good recruiting class, Narduzzi has already shown us the money. Its my opinion, at least, that his 2016 class is the best one we've had in 30 years. With the momentum and good national press coverage, there is no reason to think this year's class won't be as good or better than the last one.

Yes, I know, the 2016 class hasn't done anything on the field yet, but from where we sit now, after just one year under PN, this class looks extremely promising. I think we had 7-8 guys who were given 4 stars by at least one of the recruiting services, and more importantly, most of our three star guys look way better than many of our past 3 star guys. It wouldn't surprise me if 3 star guys like Campbell end up having tremendous careers.

RP, I'm right there with you on all counts. I liked last year's class a lot as well, and i expect this one will end up very similar to it (hopefully with more offensive players). I think things under Duzzi have already been markedly different and more positive. Better vibe than in many years. But he has a lot of work to do to get us legit again.

 

[President Stache]

It is not even worthy of a debate. We are recruiting the best since Wannstedt, and those results werent world beaters, but we had respectful teams to be sure. Nobody is making a spot for the national championship trophy, but with Narduzzi, unlike other coaches, us 'homers' arent saying,'well give this new a guy a chance, of course we will have some bad years first'. I know I thought that a few times. Narduzzi is one that is just taking the bull by the horns, getting things done, knows what to get done, and is making things happen. Whether the players can make a last second FG or stop a critical third down is another story... but optimism is there to be had without being crazy.

 

[Teh Teh]

Badby's comment that after 30 years, wanting to be shown the money first is a fair position. But I would add that in terms of putting together a very good recruiting class, Narduzzi has already shown us the money. Its my opinion, at least, that his 2016 class is the best one we've had in 30 years. With the momentum and good national press coverage, there is no reason to think this year's class won't be as good or better than the last one.

Yes, I know, the 2016 class hasn't done anything on the field yet, but from where we sit now, after just one year under PN, this class looks extremely promising. I think we had 7-8 guys who were given 4 stars by at least one of the recruiting services, and more importantly, most of our three star guys look way better than many of our past 3 star guys. It wouldn't surprise me if 3 star guys like Campbell end up having tremendous careers.

Very impressive how we turned the perception around so quickly. Went from in big trouble 18 months ago to being better than we have been in quite some time. On the field this year will be a struggle but the perception and dynamic has changed for the better

 

[TD_istheman]

You're not actually dense enough to think that he....or any other coach....would come out and say that, are you?
I guess you also believe that TCU is actually his dream job, alma mater or not.

JD wouldn't change what his boss asked of him, most importantly his staff, so they let him look around. Had nothing to do with the damn fans. When has Pitt cared what fans thought ????

 

[TD_istheman]

It is not even worthy of a debate. We are recruiting the best since Wannstedt, and those results werent world beaters, but we had respectful teams to be sure. Nobody is making a spot for the national championship trophy, but with Narduzzi, unlike other coaches, us 'homers' arent saying,'well give this new a guy a chance, of course we will have some bad years first'. I know I thought that a few times. Narduzzi is one that is just taking the bull by the horns, getting things done, knows what to get done, and is making things happen. Whether the players can make a last second FG or stop a critical third down is another story... but optimism is there to be had without being crazy.

On paper or perception? On paper we are recruiting like Sleepy to a tee. Perception is better than it has been.

 

[MajTom]

On paper or perception? On paper we are recruiting like Sleepy to a tee. Perception is better than it has been.

If you don't realize that Duzz is recruiting better than Chryst then you don't have a clue...get one

 

[TD_istheman]

I think they are comparable so far .... but but but I also think Duzz will get better and better. More of an upside to him for sure. I think we are in good hands and hope Pitt and Duzz make it a long term commitment to each other

What are the rankings so far, I'm sure classes are ranked close as well to each other , so you need to get a clue. Don't have to be a homer to be a fan

 

[Teh Teh]

Narduzzi is clearly recruiting better than any Pitt coach since wannstedt