Pitt alums and fans need to look for reasons to support the program rather than make excuses not to. I am impressed by her so far, but history shows Pitt alums and fans are almost impossible to please.
Agreed. Annoying if not outright disgusting. Can only figure there are certain key Pitt boosters or trustees who insist we doggedly keep trying to convince them to schedule, and (probably wisely) each new AD is caught in that hard place... they can't be the AD that slams the PSU door shut. Despite it being so obvious that they've long slammed it on Pitt already.
Actually, flip through and really check the actual crowds of buc games lately. On regular game nights they're mostly empty too now (not counting the skyblast nights or the nights that Boston or Chicago or Orleans or LA Guns or Miami Sound Machine or maybe all of em, whoever is playing a show after the game). In that two year window they were legitimately good, the actual crowds every game were excellent. It's not only Pitt fans astoundingly picky in daring to want winners. It's all unretarded fans.
Do we really have to go through and list again? There are plenty of examples, though granted not nearly enough, when Heinz was at least as "electric." various WVU, various ND, Cincy 2009, VT 2003. The latter were more "electric" than that PSU game. When our team is good, when there are stakes for the game, and frankly any WVU or ND game, the crowds will be there. PSU refuses to play, so why keep defining insanity begging them?
no to tOSU. No to tosu. htp, im telling you, we want no parts of that.. dude, I said it before, psu and wvu say they bring 25k and bring 8k. tosu will say nothing and bring 28k. it's too much, im telling you. I still have nightmares from a full sea of red in a Zelda's bar on a Friday night in mid 90s. It still haunts me. I wake up all sweaty, shaking, nerves all shot to hell.
Curtis Martin had one of the best games a RB has ever played, at an on campus stadium, and against Texas. Do u know how many people attended?
Pitt needs to turn it into an event. Pierogie Races, 50/50 Raffle, Have some sort of drawing for a big prize near or at the end of the game, etc.
Pitt fans could have shown better in the Duke game last year after beating Clemson. The chancellor's toadies will beat that one to death. Meanwhile the true problem is detailed in the other thread going on here that highlights the repeated f*ck ups in firing and hiring. One fluke single point victory on the road (and our epic wins always seem to be on the road), what was it, the first win against a top 5 team in decades, is not going to light a fire under a base who have withstood a steady stream of highbrow urine in their faces for 35 years.
I call on tougher reporting too ... but when it comes to actual direct interviews, have to be realistic. These folks aren't going to consent to on camera interviews unless they're assured of softball questions. Pitt's office (as most others, probably) actually likely require the questions submitted in advance. A newbie reporter like that guy trying to get a story on air any which way possible was happy to agree. The content didn't matter to him or her. They're both just looking for a clip to submit for interviews for better jobs.
Mostly right on. But what's missed is the current system kinda does work for what it was intended to do, make a crap load of money. Most big rivalries are kept intact as well. Some are within conferences naturally. But others, there ncaa and networks counted on the good sense of the schools (or short of that, state governments) to manually force them to keep going. Before the ACC absorption of all the BE teams, Virginia gov forced VT and VA to play of they wouldn't themselves, Iowa forces its schools similarly, WV gov forced WVU and Marshall, etc. Pitt happens to be in a state with perhaps the most corrupt and inept state government, which allowed for PS to unilaterally end the games with Pitt. The state gov (and media outlets) are thick with Nits, and Pitt is easily dumped on for spite, even at the cost of losing the revenue on all sides for an annual big game, vs both teams playing rotting garbage 1AA or Mac games. PS may still get solid crowds for such but not the "107000" they'd get for us. Likely 20000 less for a Coastal Carolina or whatnot. But they'd give it up for the spite, and the state lets them. Morons.
It's just this simple.
When did they actually show to begin with?
It's not a happy thing to have to point out but it's all true. Sports fans of all stripes want and pay for winners. Or at least programs earnestly trying to win. They'll be forgiven for the stray year that things don't come together (which is actually most years really, even for great teams). Crowds are still good for those because the Fans know the team management is trying and has shown success before. But Fans can sniff the ones that are frauds, just in it to scrape the dumpster for easy scraps. And largely, fans blow them off. Its not "bad support". Its Consumer 101.
Well the Pete was sold out for a number of years...did everyone who had a season ticket go to every game? No, I had season tickets and lived 300 miles away and had to pick and choose my spots as I'm sure a lot of others did. The crowds for most BE games were great when Pitt was actually a conference contender. Interest waned during Dixon's tenure...that is undeniable. Over time the scheduling got worse, the regular season performance/record in the BE and ACC got worse, the post season conference tournament results got worse, and the NCAA tournament record and seedings got worse. Do you see a trend there? Evidently not because you keep ripping the Pitt fans for NO reason. Dixon was to blame pure and simple!
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