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Don't necessarily disagree with your point about Sheldon.
Mike was missing. James was missing. Jamel quit shooting because he was missing.

Sheldon tried to put us on his back. For that, he deserves credt. Unfortunately, he probably shot us out of the game. So, as Tomlin would say, he has to own that, too.

Given how unbelievably well we shot against Kent State, we were due for a drop off. Too bad it was vs #11 and on national TV.

I think Cam's treys will fall sooner or later. Just maybe not this season. He can be a special player, but maybe not till his 3rd, 4th or 5th year. He's a big puppy yet and has to grow into his body.
 
When you started running the offense through Young we had no answer. I thought by the end of the game your bigs looked gassed.

Agreed. Young took Purdue's big men off the dribble all game; they could not stop his dribble penetration at all. He was off on a few shots he should have made; two drives in the 2nd half, the lefty jump hook in the 1st. Some of that was probably fatigue. But otherwise he was a beast.

I don't know ACC personnel but I suspect Young will have that advantage over most anyone who tries to guard him away from the basket. He looks more fleet than last year. His passing was superb. Wish Pitt had better help for him on the boards.

Last night gave Pitt the recipe for what to do when they can't shoot: iso Young on any 4 and let him operate. More often than not, it's going to get Pitt something good, and it's a treat to watch.
 
Mike was missing. James was missing. Jamel quit shooting because he was missing.

Sheldon tried to put us on his back. For that, he deserves credt. Unfortunately, he probably shot us out of the game. So, as Tomlin would say, he has to own that, too.

Given how unbelievably well we shot against Kent State, we were due for a drop off. Too bad it was vs #11 and on national TV.

I think Cam's treys will fall sooner or later. Just maybe not this season. He can be a special player, but maybe not till his 3rd, 4th or 5th year. He's a big puppy yet and has to grow into his body.

I agree with all of these observations.
 
What is so impressive about Rowan so far besides that he shoots every time he touches the ball?

Now, now, you are being awfully harsh. Rowan did make a basket last night. Sure, it took him 11 shots to make that one basket. And sure, he was one of the big reasons that his team lost. But still, you should stop being such a meany.
 
Great post as usual.

1) We need Artis and Young to both show up on a consistent basis to compete against top 20 teams.

2) Generally speaking, I don't necessarily think whether a point guard plays a good offensive game or not is based on how many points he scores, but how he makes others on the team better. A good offensive JRob game to me involves primarily controlling the pace of the game (which JRob always does), and secondarily he has to make scoring chances easier for others more consistently, like when he made that amazing bounce pass to a trailing Young on a break in the first half. More court vision passes, drive-draw-dish type plays and leading fast breaks would be great.

3) It would be nice to get more easy baskets off of fast break when the opportunity arises, in general - Especially while playing a bigger slower team like Purdue.

4) Young needs more consistent help in the post. Recruiting misses the last 2 years in the post is glaring.
 
Exciting game Tuesday night. Wish you guys much luck (and great play) the remainder of the year.

Posting in hopes of clearing up a couple of points from earlier posters who might have downplayed your team's performance without full understanding of what you were up against. Purdue was lucky that you bricked more than your share of threes, but Purdue is also among the top teams in the country in opponents' FG %, so some of that disappointing performance might just be due to the fact that Purdue's active/switching D can play havoc with even good shooting teams' %. There's a sign in Mackey that reads "Defense Lives Here", and the players take it to heart.

Regarding Ryan Cline, who's four consecutive threes put a fork in Pitt, a poster noted he's a skinny freshman ranked #150. That's absolutely true. In fact, up until our first game, there was a LOT of board discussion and questions to Coach Painter about if he would redshirt this year to get stronger instead of being a third or fourth option at 2 guard getting a few cleanup minutes here and there. But he also led his HS, All-Star and AAU teams to championship results, so he's definitely a winner. He WON the HS three point shooting contest before last year's Final Four against a lot of 4 and 5 stars going to big name schools. A writer for us noted (with great observatory skill, I might add) that Tuesday night he seemed to be playing "Around-the-World" with himself while a game was going on around him. Painter has said he's the best shooter he's ever had, and the reason he didn't redshirt him was because he just knew that there would be a game (or more) during the season where injuries or foul trouble would give him the opportunity to show off those uncanny shooting skills and win a game for us. Unfortunately for Pitt, it happened sooner in the season than any of us expected, but you'll probably see it again before the season is over, and you'll definitely know his name by the time he's an upper classman.

I doubt any of this can reduce the sting of your loss, but maybe it can at least help you rationalize it a bit and realize you lost to a very good team on Tuesday. Your team is good too, your coach a class-act, and we'll be pulling for you (and your RPI-raising potential) the rest of the season.
 
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You sure about that? We're big, but we aren't slow by any means. Our guards went for 29 points, 11 rebounds, and 10 assists while committing only 4 turnovers.
Yes because we did not pressure you much.... Your guards could not penetrate the zone or create off of the dribble. Be honest, your guards are your weak link. Your strength is height and 3 point shooting. For some reason, Dixon does not tailor his game plan to exploit other teams weaknesses. He just runs his system until he's down big and has to change or we're in a 2 point game at the end...rarely does he blow a good oppoment out of the gym.
 
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** This was a game that surely was lots of fun at times, while very tough to take at others.

** This game also showed us we can be pretty good, but we still have a way to go.

** And it certainly gives as plenty to talk about, while hopefully giving Dixon some things he can learn from.

** Those sitting with me can testify that I started yelling for Dixon to go zone from about Purdue’s second trip. And as the early shortfall grew, I screamed louder and louder. I believe it was when the Boilers stretched the lead to 18-5, Dixon finally gave in.

** Hmmm … went zone with a 13 point deficit and we lost by 13. Just sayin.

** I also proclaimed that if Dixon had started the second half in man, I would have stormed onto the court to slap him upside his head. Sure glad I didn’t have to prove that one.

** I’ll get back to that zone issue in a bit, but regardless of the reason for the decficit, the reality is that we just aren’t good enough to make up that kind of ground and then surge ahead. And not against a team as good as Purdue who really can move the ball well.

** The good news however, was that to surge back like we did, we had to play some really good basketball. And it was some really good basketball, led by our often maligned point guard James Robinson.

** James was very good on both ends of the court for most of the game. It’s nice to see James shoot well, but it’s even better to see him get into the lane, and he did that effectively as well.

** Mike was good too, but he was trying a little too hard at the end. That problem is exacerbated when the rest of the Panther offense stops and watches Mike try to make moves, instead of continuing to move to give him places to pass to.

** Unfortunately, James and Mike didn’t have a good enough gun to help them. And one more gun might have been enough. Sheldon helped some, but Jamel wasn’t up to form and shots from Chris, Sterling, and especially Cam just couldn’t hit the mark when the team needed them most.

** That’s the other problem Dixon is facing now. He likes to rely on a rotation, and his depth is real. But it’s tough to know who he can call on to step in when needed.

** This is especially true at the five spot, and Dixon scrambled to find the right guy all night. And although his numbers don’t especially show it, Rafel Maia was that guy. It was his play in the zone midway through the first half that really sparked the team.

** Another spark to the zone was Mike playing the back wing, where he was able to cover the post, the wing and the corner with his wingspan. Cam Johnson had the same impact in his short stretches on the other back wing.

** Unfortunately, Sheldon and Jamel struggled with the same positional art. And in a game with so much talented size on both teams, Sheldon and Jamel allowed a 3-star freshman guard recruit (ranked around #150) to be the game changer by repeatedly living him open in the corner after floating too much in the paint.

** For stretches, our zone was pretty awesome, but not so much in the last 10 minutes of the game when we needed it most.

** Generally speaking however, I do think it’s time that Dixon fully embraces that zone needs to be the way this team plays this year. We can’t start games by getting killed in man, letting teams get their confidence flowing like the Boilers did today.

** Back to the other end, our guys also need to start executing by driving into the lane, or getting the ball into Mike in the post. For the first ten minutes or so, it was almost a total reliance on jump shots. That type of offense led to no baskets in the half court for the first seven minutes of the game. And of course, 17 point deficits.

** I was hopeful that the Panthers might make a big statement today, and of course I’m disappointed that didn’t happen.

** But this is clearly a better basketball team than last year, with plenty of areas where they can become even better.

** I believe “even better” actually can mean “pretty darn good.”
The three star recruit, Cline, as a freshman is already one of the best pure jump shooters in college basketball and was runner-up to Swanigan for Indiana's Mr. Basketball. In other words, he's the real deal. He has some big games ahead of him for the Boilers. Unlike our "shooters", you leave him alone deep, and he'll kill you.
 
The three star recruit, Cline, as a freshman is already one of the best pure jump shooters in college basketball and was runner-up to Swanigan for Indiana's Mr. Basketball. In other words, he's the real deal. He has some big games ahead of him for the Boilers. Unlike our "shooters", you leave him alone deep, and he'll kill you.
lol at extrapolating a few made 3s into a full career and comparing to our 3 point shooting, which has not been awful.
 
The three star recruit, Cline, as a freshman is already one of the best pure jump shooters in college basketball and was runner-up to Swanigan for Indiana's Mr. Basketball. In other words, he's the real deal. He has some big games ahead of him for the Boilers. Unlike our "shooters", you leave him alone deep, and he'll kill you.
Cline was very under-rated coming out of HS. Most that follow HS basketball in Indiana thought he should have been a McDonalds AA. As for the Pitt game, you guys impressed me. I've always thought Dixon was a good coach & you guys will be fine. We have a very good team this year & are going to beat down alot of teams. Pitt just needs a little more time to get their chemistry.
 
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Yeah, I just wish we had some guys who could shoot the ball like those Purdue guys do.

I mean Purdue is hitting a smoking 39.2% of their threes, while Pitt is hitting a paltry 38.8% of theirs. For the mathematically challenged out there that would mean that if both teams shot 250 threes Purdue would make exactly ONE more of them.

Damn, I wish we could shoot like them.
 
I think we have some guys that can shoot it on this team for sure.

The simple difference in this game was that Purdue didn't allow us to shoot in rhythm or space.

Cam is a catch and shoot guy and purely a rhythm shooter.

They also were in a battle and had less legs under them than previous contests.

As competition heats up they will adjust and start dropping them again.
 
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