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I am really wondering what the problem is. By all that I witnessed over the past two seasons I see him as the best back after JC on the team right now, yet Hall gets all the meaningful carries. Even in mop up at the end of the game he looked like a varsity kid playing with the JV's, IMO.
 
He must be an absolute dog in practice. That's the only thing I can think of. Hall couldn't carry his jock. Moss and Ollison should carry the rock next year. Sibley should be the 3rd back.

However I fully expect Ollison to transfer and go somewhere that he'll actually play. He's an NFL back and being screwed over at Pitt.
 
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PhPanther1 said:
He must be an absolute dog in practice. That's the only thing I can think of. Hall couldn't carry his jock. Moss and Ollison should carry the rock next year. Sibley should be the 3rd back.

However I fully expect Ollison to transfer and go somewhere that he'll actually play. He's an NFL back and being screwed over at Pitt.
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If a dog in practice he screwing himself.. Nothing to do with PITT.
 
He actually appears to get more snaps on O than all RB not named Conner but he's often used to block and as a possible jet option for Peterman.
 
PhPanther1 said:
He must be an absolute dog in practice. That's the only thing I can think of. Hall couldn't carry his jock. Moss and Ollison should carry the rock next year. Sibley should be the 3rd back.

However I fully expect Ollison to transfer and go somewhere that he'll actually play. He's an NFL back and being screwed over at Pitt.
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You sort of contradicted yourself here. If he's not practicing and preparing the way he should in college, he is not going to make it to the NFL. There are very few exceptions to this rule, limited to the extremely elite athletes.

Ollison has had issues blocking in the passing game. In this type of offense, with the motions, the RB absolutely needs to be able to pick up the rusher off of the edge or coming straight up the middle. If that block isn't made, either the QB is going to get sacked, or the jet sweep/inside pitch to Orndoff, Aston, etc. is going to get dropped for a loss.
 
PhPanther1 said:
He must be an absolute dog in practice. That's the only thing I can think of. Hall couldn't carry his jock. Moss and Ollison should carry the rock next year. Sibley should be the 3rd back.

However I fully expect Ollison to transfer and go somewhere that he'll actually play. He's an NFL back and being screwed over at Pitt.
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Getting 'screwed over' at Pitt? No fan can make that statement. He gets evaluated from practices and games by the staff. It's on tape. The coaches want to win and will put the players in that will help them do that. Being 7-4 and as competitive as they have been, I would say they are doing a good job of it.
 
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PhPanther1 said:
He must be an absolute dog in practice. That's the only thing I can think of. Hall couldn't carry his jock. Moss and Ollison should carry the rock next year. Sibley should be the 3rd back.

However I fully expect Ollison to transfer and go somewhere that he'll actually play. He's an NFL back and being screwed over at Pitt.
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If he's an NFL back we're playing him. So something is going on with him.
Maybe when Conner leaves next year he'll fit in .
 
He is a quality back. I think duzzi likes a quicker back, not a power back. Someone that can play that perimeter, east -west game and be a home run threat more so than the power back.

Ollison will be a productive back somewhere, just not at Pitt.
 
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Swervin27 said:
He is a quality back. I think duzzi likes a quicker back, not a power back. Someone that can play that perimeter, east -west game and be a home run threat more so than the power back.

Ollison will be a productive back somewhere, just not at Pitt.
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Conner is a power back?
Maybe he fits in next year!
 
He is at best the fourth best back on roster, he is a big back and does not run with power especially watching Conner run and not that fast, he might be good at 3, 4, or even 5 yds a carry no breakaway speed. And he himself said he has a hard time with Canada system
 
BuffetParrothead said:
Conner is a power back?
Maybe he fits in next year!
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the only reason I say this, outside of ollison not playing of course, is the kind of back that Duzzi is recruiting. These guys seem to be more quicker, smaller backs. I don't seem to think he is big on that typical power, north/south kind of back.. That "falling forward" guy.. That kid from Woody High last year is a good back, not the one that went to psu, the other one and duzzi didn't offer. If you look at the backs we offered in the database thuis year and even last year, they all seem to be hovering around that 5'10" 195 range.. I don't see any bigger back offers. Maybe I am wrong.
 
No way I'm writing him off just yet. Definitely has shown me much more than Hall. Not to mention, again, he does get a lot of snaps on offense but his role is more akin to that of Aston. He laid a great block on at least one of Conner's TDs v. Duke.
 
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He is at best the fourth best back on roster, he is a big back and does not run with power especially watching Conner run and not that fast, he might be good at 3, 4, or even 5 yds a carry no breakaway speed. And he himself said he has a hard time with Canada system
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I disagree.. He proved that he can be a 1100 yard back, he proved he can consistently produce when getting the ball 15+ times a game. Has Mall (I've combined hall and moss as one back, not entirely sure they are two different backs) done this? I see an occasional nice run here and there from Mall but nothing at all consistently. I have yet to see Mall even have a good full game, a game where Mall gets it 15 times a game and puts together a complete game.

A lot of pitt fans sees Mall get a nice run or two and thinks it can happen over a season, a very naïve thought process IMO.
 
PhPanther1 said:
I love this myth. He plays more in passing downs than you would think. He's a much better pass blocker than Hall or Moss.
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PH, big Ollison fan and supporter here, im on your side mostly but even I have to admit, Ollison had some ugly whiffs in pass blocking back in '14. Maybe he has improved but that was definitely a weakness..
 
Swervin27 said:
the only reason I say this, outside of ollison not playing of course, is the kind of back that Duzzi is recruiting. These guys seem to be more quicker, smaller backs. I don't seem to think he is big on that typical power, north/south kind of back.. That "falling forward" guy.. That kid from Woody High last year is a good back, not the one that went to psu, the other one and duzzi didn't offer. If you look at the backs we offered in the database thuis year and even last year, they all seem to be hovering around that 5'10" 195 range.. I don't see any bigger back offers. Maybe I am wrong.
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Hall is 5'11 225, Moss 5'11 210, Conner 6'2 235, Ollison is 6'2 230. Besides Moss, who will probably add the 15lbs this offseason, they are the same size. Actually Ollison would be thinner than the others.
 
PhPanther1 said:
He must be an absolute dog in practice. That's the only thing I can think of. Hall couldn't carry his jock. Moss and Ollison should carry the rock next year. Sibley should be the 3rd back.

However I fully expect Ollison to transfer and go somewhere that he'll actually play. He's an NFL back and being screwed over at Pitt.
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Pump the breaks. An NFL back? Please stop. Is he better than Ray Graham? He couldn't make the NFL. Ollison is good and I like him but you cannot say he is an NFL back yet.
 
PhPanther1 said:
However I fully expect Ollison to transfer and go somewhere that he'll actually play. He's an NFL back and being screwed over at Pitt.
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Why wouldn't he return to starting or at least playing a lot when Connor goes?
 
Swervin27 said:
PH, big Ollison fan and supporter here, im on your side mostly but even I have to admit, Ollison had some ugly whiffs in pass blocking back in '14. Maybe he has improved but that was definitely a weakness..
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I'm not sayinf it's his strength, but he's better at it than the others. In 2015 he played on passing downs more than anybody. 2016 is a different story as James has turned into a 3 down back for NFL showcasing purposes.
 
pittzap said:
Pump the breaks. An NFL back? Please stop. Is he better than Ray Graham? He couldn't make the NFL.
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ACC rookie of the year in a season where he could have easily taken on more carries? He has a much better NFL body than Ray Graham.
 
Pitt79 said:
Why wouldn't he return to starting or at least playing a lot when Connor goes?
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do you think he will play if / when Conner goes? I don't, I think Duzzi made it crystal clear he is a very distant 3rd behind Mall..
 
Pitt79 said:
Why wouldn't he return to starting or at least playing a lot when Connor goes?
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Because coach is gonna play his guys over Ollison. Moss, Hall and Sibley. Just my opinion. Ollison should go where he'll be the main back and reach his potential.
 
PhPanther1 said:
Because coach is gonna play his guys over Ollison. Moss, Hall and Sibley. Just my opinion. Ollison should go where he'll be the main back and reach his potential.
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PhPanther, you and I are on the same exact page here with Ollison. couldn't agree more..
 
Swervin27 said:
PH, big Ollison fan and supporter here, im on your side mostly but even I have to admit, Ollison had some ugly whiffs in pass blocking back in '14. Maybe he has improved but that was definitely a weakness..
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Agreed. There were more than one occasion when Ollison completely missed the defender come straight up the middle, or from his side on an outside blitz.

I fully understand that the offensive system PITT runs this year is completely different (thank goodness) than the one Ollison was featured in last year, but PITT has only given up 0.8 sacks/game this year as opposed to 2.2 sacks/game last year. Some of that is the maturity of the offensive line as well, but the RB plays a huge part in not allowing the unblocked defender to run at the QB unabated.
 
VAPITTALUM said:
Agreed. There were more than one occasion when Ollison completely missed the defender come straight up the middle, or from his side on an outside blitz.

I fully understand that the offensive system PITT runs this year is completely different (thank goodness) than the one Ollison was featured in last year, but PITT has only given up 0.8 sacks/game this year as opposed to 2.2 sacks/game last year. Some of that is the maturity of the offensive line as well, but the RB plays a huge part in not allowing the unblocked defender to run at the QB unabated.
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the RB you mean JC. don't allude to any ideas that Mall is some sort of pass blocking asset..
 
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hahaha ok, now Conner isn't going to make it either now. Care to put a wager on it?
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define "Make it." Make it as actually make it or make it as being a every down starter? He is gonna make it, time will tell if he truly makes it..
 
I thought there was a concern addressed in camp. The coaches wanted to see better, "yards after contact" with Ollison. I am a supporter of Ollison, but this is what was bantered around by Powell and others earlier in the season... Looking at the Avg yds per carry.. Ollison 3.8, Hall 4.4, Conner 5.0, Moss 5.8... I am guessing this is playing out in the season the way that the coaches mentioned it in camp. For a bigger back he gets solid forward lean, but not much push after contact. Very uncommon for Ollison to spin off of contact, which then limits those extra yards.... I'm hoping he sticks around, especially if Conner goes Pro, since it is always a big possibility to have injuries... We have a good stable, I'd like to keep that stable....
 
VAPITTALUM said:
Nope, this is referring to the featured back in each of 2015 and 2016, which has been Ollison and Conner respectively.
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so you are saying JC is a better pass blocker than Ollison? Yeah, we agree, no one on this planet is saying otherwise..
 
Swervin27 said:
so you are saying JC is a better pass blocker than Ollison? Yeah, we agree, no one on this planet is saying otherwise..
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It's backing up what was stated earlier in the thread regarding Ollison not seeing as much playing time this year. There's no way he is going to see more carries than Conner, blocking is just one of the many reasons.
 
VAPITTALUM said:
It's backing up what was stated earlier in the thread regarding Ollison not seeing as much playing time this year. There's no way he is going to see more carries than Conner, blocking is just one of the many reasons.
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More carries than Conner, dude, Vapitt, what the hell are you talking about? Who is saying anything about playing more than JC? You are literally having a debate with yourself.
 
PhPanther1 said:
Because coach is gonna play his guys over Ollison. Moss, Hall and Sibley. Just my opinion. Ollison should go where he'll be the main back and reach his potential.
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Ph, here's the current rushing attempts and Average YD/Carry between the 3 backs that you mention:

Player Attempts Total Yards Average YD/Carry
Chawntez Moss 38 221 5.8
Darrin Hall 31 135 4.4
Qadree Ollison 27 103 3.8

It's not like there is some huge disparity between the number of carries between the 3. Unfortunately, it shows that Ollison, of the 3, has the lower average yardage/carry. Ollison is simply not going to take carries away from Conner. And Moss (not Hall so much), has shown the propensity of making solid runs when given the opportunity or when he's healthy.
 
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