Rather Than Looking For A Center In A Haystack would it be better

[BuffetParrothead]

to follow the North Carolina model and load up with athletic 6'9" - guys and run them in and out of the game!
Just a thought since it seems like good big 7+ footer centers are difficult to locate and land!
Thanks in advance for the expert and not so expert opinions!

 

[Harve74]

to follow the North Carolina model and load up with athletic 6'9" - guys and run them in and out of the game!
Just a thought since it seems like good big 7+ footer centers are difficult to locate and land!
Thanks in advance for the expert and not so expert opinions!

Uh, Young, Artis, Jeter, Luther. Manugault next Fall.

Isn't that pretty much exactly what we're doing?

Yeah, our 6-9 looks a little shorter than Carolina's 6-9 , but it is the same approach.

 

[BuffetParrothead]

Uh, Young, Artis, Jeter, Luther. Manugault next Fall.

Isn't that pretty much exactly what we're doing?

Yeah, our 6-9 looks a little shorter than Carolina's 6-9 , but it is the same approach.

Sounds like a good plan!
Even when you get a 7 ft center guy they seem to be " projects."
While the 6'9" athletic guys are more of an immediate benefit and they improve at a faster rate!

 

[Cap pitt]

to follow the North Carolina model and load up with athletic 6'9" - guys and run them in and out of the game!
Just a thought since it seems like good big 7+ footer centers are difficult to locate and land!
Thanks in advance for the expert and not so expert opinions!

Even real good 6'9" players are getting hard to land

 

[Chairman Moe]

Uh, Young, Artis, Jeter, Luther. Manugault next Fall.

Yeah, our 6-9 looks a little shorter than Carolina's 6-9 , but it is the same approach.

Harve, it appeared to me in most all of the games I watched this year, that our guys looked at least 1-2" shorter than their stated height. Also, they "looked" to be not as ripped and/or athletic as other team's bigs, but that's another topic altogether. Is it the Athletic Dept or P.R. Dept who is falsifying their personal "stat's"? I seem to recall that when Blair played they listed him at either 6'7" or 6'8" and he was what, 6'5" at best? Of course Blair's "biggest" asset was his wing span . . .

 

[BigZeke]

Harve, it appeared to me in most all of the games I watched this year, that our guys looked at least 1-2" shorter than their stated height. Also, they "looked" to be not as ripped and/or athletic as other team's bigs, but that's another topic altogether. Is it the Athletic Dept or P.R. Dept who is falsifying their personal "stat's"? I seem to recall that when Blair played they listed him at either 6'7" or 6'8" and he was what, 6'5" at best? Of course Blair's "biggest" asset was his wing span . . .

The Carolina front line players not only towered over Pitt's they looked like MEN out there against our finesse guys and that is either a shortfall in recruiting or a change in philosophy cause that never was the case with Lett, Morris, McGhee, Gray, Blair, Biggs, etc, etc. No matter the opposition's height it was Pitt doing the intimidating not the opposition. See Thabeet, Hasheem for reference.

 

[MajorMajors]

The Carolina front line players not only towered over Pitt's they looked like MEN out there against our finesse guys and that is either a shortfall in recruiting or a change in philosophy cause that never was the case with Lett, Morris, McGhee, Gray, Blair, Biggs, etc, etc. No matter the opposition's height it was Pitt doing the intimidating not the opposition. See Thabeet, Hasheem for reference.

I don't think it's height as much as overall size. Our guys are kind of slender and narrow across the shoulders compared to the guys we are playing. 6'9" is plenty tall enough if the guy has some mass.

Go Pitt.

 

[Harve74]

Harve, it appeared to me in most all of the games I watched this year, that our guys looked at least 1-2" shorter than their stated height. Also, they "looked" to be not as ripped and/or athletic as other team's bigs, but that's another topic altogether. Is it the Athletic Dept or P.R. Dept who is falsifying their personal "stat's"? I seem to recall that when Blair played they listed him at either 6'7" or 6'8" and he was what, 6'5" at best? Of course Blair's "biggest" asset was his wing span . . .

Don't get me started on that subject.

Virtally everybody exaggerates their "program heights." Mostly, they measure height with sneakers and round up a bit. The Draft Express website has a database of most everyone who has been at the NBA combines. They list BOTH with shoes and without. Usually, without takes off 1.5 to 2 inches. FIBA tournament rosters usually list accurate heights without shoes, too.

Since everyone does it, unless the difference is egregious, I've begun to ignore the variation and just assume most guys are an inch or two shorter than listed. Mostly, the Draft Express numbers support that. For example, Aaron Gray was the ONLY guy in his draft class actually measured st 7 foot. Steve Adams was 6-11.

I still tend to make an effort to walk past most guys at the ProAm and get a "ball park" height. It used to be easier at the Greentree racket club. The door into the court was 6-10 and some guys listed that big or taller didn't have to duck.

Artis is 6-6, maybe 6-7. Young is bigger than 6-7, probably 6-8 and pushng 6-9 in shoes. Jeter is between Artis and Young. Luther is as big as Young.

Rozelle Nix was measured at 6-10 1/2 at Pitt. Pitt passed on VT's C Satchel Pierce, listed as a 7-footer when he only measured at about 6-9.

Actually, Slim Johnson is now as tall as Young or Luther. Other than Nix, he is probably the tallest Panther. DeJuan was about 6-5 1/4. Sam 6-5 1/2. McGhee 6-8 3/4 in socks. Lamar 6-4 in socks, 6-5 1/4 in shoes.

Short guards are worse than bigs at over-stating. Josh Newkirk was 6-0.5 in socks. I don't JRob is 6-3 in shoes but 6-1.5 without. Ashton 6-0, Brandin, 5-11 3/4 (both in socks)

This bunch made an effort to be in running shape rather than bulked up and ripped. Young and Artis are possibly 30# lighter than when they got here. They aren't designed to bang anymore. Dixon wanted both more athletic and quicker. Both ARE more explosive but they now longer intimidate.

 

[maxxwell]

The Carolina front line players not only towered over Pitt's they looked like MEN out there against our finesse guys and that is either a shortfall in recruiting or a change in philosophy cause that never was the case with Lett, Morris, McGhee, Gray, Blair, Biggs, etc, etc. No matter the opposition's height it was Pitt doing the intimidating not the opposition. See Thabeet, Hasheem for reference.

Carolina is not really a "physical" team in the traditional sense. Their Bigs are just highly skilled. They didn't "out muscle" Pitt.

 

[Piranha]

Harve, it appeared to me in most all of the games I watched this year, that our guys looked at least 1-2" shorter than their stated height. Also, they "looked" to be not as ripped and/or athletic as other team's bigs, but that's another topic altogether. Is it the Athletic Dept or P.R. Dept who is falsifying their personal "stat's"? I seem to recall that when Blair played they listed him at either 6'7" or 6'8" and he was what, 6'5" at best? Of course Blair's "biggest" asset was his wing span . . .

You are right - we exaggerate more than other teams. 6-9 for our team equates to 6-7 for UNC, Purdue, MSU, and other teams with legit height. Big difference.