Reality with AD Greene

[pittdan77]

It was definitely a little deflating, but we still decided to attend the bowl game and I had no problem with Kenny’s decision (he got us 11 wins and an ACC championship, he did his part).

For what it’s worth, I think we win that game if Nick Patti plays the whole game. Felt awful he lost his big breakout opportunity, although (I believe) Slovis had already committed by that point.

All of us want to win that game but the realities of what college football has become makes everything different. Fans have to accept that. No different than anything else about this discussion. We're faced with a difficult financial reality and part of that is that you're probably not going to get anywhere close to the value of what you contribute.

Pitt isn't buying championships. Pitt is buying a seat at the table.

 

[HailtoPitt]

I temporarily unignored Souf to read what was going on here. I have to say, he is correct. It is absolutely like a business and just not feasible to think that Pitt is going to be able to compete at or near the highest level. We are the Chinese restaurant that used to be great but now occupies the old Pizza Hut, hoping that selling overpriced T-shirts is going to change anything other then allowing us to buy more msg.

Welcome to the couch (soon)!

 

[HailToPitt725]

Pitt isn't buying championships. Pitt is buying a seat at the table.

Agreed, and this is important to remember. Personally, I think we’re going to reach an “end game” state for collegiate athletics in the next ~10 years. Unless they’re only taking 20-30 schools, a highly-rated public institution that commits $$ to athletics is not going to be excluded in whatever is next.

 

[bobfree]

the blue bloods of the world are the blue bloods because of their fanbases and donors / not because of the quality of their fundraising department

If you are invested in the program and going to complain about the results, you absolutely “need to donate” (within your means/capabilities).

There is no other argument that makes sense. There’s literally no argument that less money for Pitt helps them achieve the goals that you want to see.

I donate and help the program out, likely, in more ways than most of you.

I don't put all the blame on the fans is all. Pitt needs to do better as well. Every dollar has thousands of ways to get spent, Pitt needs a more compelling case when competing for it.

 

[MarshallGoldberg]

I temporarily unignored Souf to read what was going on here. I have to say, he is correct. It is absolutely like a business and just not feasible to think that Pitt is going to be able to compete at or near the highest level. We are the Chinese restaurant that used to be great but now occupies the old Pizza Hut, hoping that selling overpriced T-shirts is going to change anything other then allowing us to buy more msg.

Welcome to the couch (soon)!

The sooner the Big 10 and SEC create a super football league outside of the NCAA, the better (as long as the other sports remained in the NCAA.) I would be perfectly happy to remain in the rump secondary football league and compete for the second tier championship against Cincinnati and Georgia Tech or whoever.. We're not going to win any FBS playoffs in this financial landscape.

Pitt needs to use Victory Heights to maintain a top tier volleyball program and lift both men's wrestling (in the most talented part of the country) up to the highest levels while adding women's wrestling; also hopefully we can stay the course on soccer; and evaluate our men's basketball coach very seriously in 2026. No more extensions for now either, we have competitive pay, and that's what you get if you want to stay. It's not a job for life.

Anyway I'll stop day dreaming now.

 

[PittPharm2002]

Holy **** this was a miserable thread to read.

It’s absolutely embarrassing reading the pretzels our fans twist themselves into to justify why they or our fanbase overall doesn’t need to donate.

We won a Championship at the beginning of the NIL era and over the next few years had one of the lowest 25% NIL budgets in P4.

Pitt athletics is spending a ton of money - they have been and are trying.

Obviously do whatever you want with your money… but if you care, the help is always more money. Not less. ESPECIALLY when things aren’t going well.

If we had a lot of people that thought that way, we’d have a lot more success in basketball and football.

Keep living off that very distant memory
While Pitt football and basketball crater - despite paying what - $13mil/year on their HCs

Maybe a over extension for Capel so we can keep losing by 20 at the half of games against powerhouses like SMU

 

[Upg bobcat]

Agreed, and this is important to remember. Personally, I think we’re going to reach an “end game” state for collegiate athletics in the next ~10 years. Unless they’re only taking 20-30 schools, a highly-rated public institution that commits $$ to athletics is not going to be excluded in whatever is next.

I don't get excited about us just "getting a seat at the table." If we do that, at least for football, Pitt is destined to be another version of the Pittsburgh Pirates.

 

[pittjas]

Keep living off that very distant memory
While Pitt football and basketball crater - despite paying what - $13mil/year on their HCs

Maybe a over extension for Capel so we can keep losing by 20 at the half of games against powerhouses like SMU

But what does that have to do with donating?

Do you think it’s easier to fix the problems if they have less money?