I have seen the Eagles many times over the years and always left felling "easy".
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RIP - Glenn Frey
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Saw them once in 94. Was planing on seeing them Once more if they returned. Unfortunately won't get a chance. One of the great bands in history
My wife and I went to the History of the Eagles concert this past July 17 2015 in Atlantic City NJ. They put on a 3.5 hr concert with Frey and Henley going over the history of the Eagles in between songs.
Wow he was great in July 2015 and dead in January 2016.
Live everyday to the fullest since there's no guarantee of how many more are left!
Wow planning to see them again in 2016 without Glenn Frey.
Wow he was great in July 2015 and dead in January 2016.
Live everyday to the fullest since there's no guarantee of how many more are left!
Wow planning to see them again in 2016 without Glenn Frey.
I always liked/respected the Eagles but was never a huge fan. They were always hit or miss with me. Some of their most famous songs I found brilliant, some I found good enough, and others I found lame.
However, the HBO documentary I saw on them a few years ago was really, really interesting. It was one of the best rock band documentaries I have ever seen – and I have seen a bundle of them. I would recommend it to anyone who has even a cursory interest in 70s rock.
Now, I wouldn't say that it painted Frey or anyone else in the group in an overly positive light but it was unusually revealing and I appreciated their courage in that regard.
I definitely came away from that film with a much firmer appreciation for the impact they had on the culture at the time and the forces that ultimately led to their demise as a rock group.
Also, as a fan of music as a whole, it is interesting to note that western American rock that was so prevalent in the 70s and into the 80s, of which the Eagles were such a big influence, is really gone.
An artist named Father John Misty did a pretty cool western American rock album a few years ago but I can't really think of anyone else doing that. It's a shame because it's a beautiful sound.
However, the HBO documentary I saw on them a few years ago was really, really interesting. It was one of the best rock band documentaries I have ever seen – and I have seen a bundle of them. I would recommend it to anyone who has even a cursory interest in 70s rock.
Now, I wouldn't say that it painted Frey or anyone else in the group in an overly positive light but it was unusually revealing and I appreciated their courage in that regard.
I definitely came away from that film with a much firmer appreciation for the impact they had on the culture at the time and the forces that ultimately led to their demise as a rock group.
Also, as a fan of music as a whole, it is interesting to note that western American rock that was so prevalent in the 70s and into the 80s, of which the Eagles were such a big influence, is really gone.
An artist named Father John Misty did a pretty cool western American rock album a few years ago but I can't really think of anyone else doing that. It's a shame because it's a beautiful sound.
I DVRd it and have watched it a number of times.
Very well done.
I never was a huge fan of Frey. He was good, but not great as a musician, and I usually don't get put off by people's egotism, but he rubbed me wrong a bit personally.
IMO Henley was more talented,special.
But, there was a yin and yang with the two, Henley probably would never had made it as big as he or the eagles did without Frey's energy and ego.
You are right, the film sort of confirmed my sense of Frey, but especially during that time period most bands were like that, as the film relays, the energy that made them great sort of tore them apart, too.
I could not agree more with all of that.
The Eagles were my father-in-law's all-time favorite band. As such, my wife basically grew up on them. She is a much bigger fan of them that I ever was and she was legitimately shaken up by yesterday's news - more than I ever would have imagined, to be honest.
Last night, as we were settling down to bed, we began to talk about Glenn Frey and the Eagles and the conversation invariably turned to that documentary.
It was definitely a confirmation of what I had long suspected. Frey was the showman/businessman of the group. I always got the sense that if he hadn't been a successful rock musician, he would've been an actor or maybe even an agent. He was just a very determined guy and I always got the strong sense that he was more focused on the business side than the music side.
Don Henley, on the other hand, is an immensely talented artist and was the heart and soul of that band.
Just look at the songs that Henley dominated/wrote versus those that Frey dominated/wrote when they were working together. They are very, very different. Personally, I always strongly preferred Henley's stuff. However, some people went the other way.
Also, look at their solo stuff afterwards. Henley's music was about a lost innocence or Walden Woods or something deeply artistic. Conversely, Frey's music was always unapologetically commercial and corporate.
It's not a criticism of Frey, per se. At the end of the day it all comes down to personal preferences. It's just really vivid example of two radically different approaches to the same industry.
They were not as good as the Beatles but there are some similarities between them and Lennon/McCartney. I also agree that like Lennon/McCartney, the exact same dynamic that drove them to such outrageous success is probably also what ultimately drove them apart. However, plenty of successful bands can make that claim. In many instances, I think it's almost an inherent part of the process.
The Eagles were my father-in-law's all-time favorite band. As such, my wife basically grew up on them. She is a much bigger fan of them that I ever was and she was legitimately shaken up by yesterday's news - more than I ever would have imagined, to be honest.
Last night, as we were settling down to bed, we began to talk about Glenn Frey and the Eagles and the conversation invariably turned to that documentary.
It was definitely a confirmation of what I had long suspected. Frey was the showman/businessman of the group. I always got the sense that if he hadn't been a successful rock musician, he would've been an actor or maybe even an agent. He was just a very determined guy and I always got the strong sense that he was more focused on the business side than the music side.
Don Henley, on the other hand, is an immensely talented artist and was the heart and soul of that band.
Just look at the songs that Henley dominated/wrote versus those that Frey dominated/wrote when they were working together. They are very, very different. Personally, I always strongly preferred Henley's stuff. However, some people went the other way.
Also, look at their solo stuff afterwards. Henley's music was about a lost innocence or Walden Woods or something deeply artistic. Conversely, Frey's music was always unapologetically commercial and corporate.
It's not a criticism of Frey, per se. At the end of the day it all comes down to personal preferences. It's just really vivid example of two radically different approaches to the same industry.
They were not as good as the Beatles but there are some similarities between them and Lennon/McCartney. I also agree that like Lennon/McCartney, the exact same dynamic that drove them to such outrageous success is probably also what ultimately drove them apart. However, plenty of successful bands can make that claim. In many instances, I think it's almost an inherent part of the process.
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Comparisons might be made with the Rolling Stones, too. But the thing that has kept the Rolling Stones together for all of these years is that: (1) In spite of some enormous egos - like a good marriage, they're committed to remaining together; (2) they've recognized that 'the whole is much greater than the sum of its parts'; (3) they take extended breaks to be away from each other, allowing for individual projects if they desire - but in the end, they always come together when they want to.
And what better example of a "committed relationship" is there, when over the years they've had several members members depart (Brian Jones, Ian Stewart, Bill Wyman, and Mick Taylor), and yet the band plays on.
And what better example of a "committed relationship" is there, when over the years they've had several members members depart (Brian Jones, Ian Stewart, Bill Wyman, and Mick Taylor), and yet the band plays on.
My theory has always been that the greatest bands/musicians are are able to capture a time and a place in their music. That is their magic and what allows them to speak to their fans. They literally sound like where they're from.
The Eagles are great example of that. Their music just screams California cool in the carefree 1970s. I understand the fryer from Detroit but their sound came straight out of California and you could feel it. Incidentally, NWA's sound also came from Southern California - Straight Outta Compton, if you will - and it too was true to its time/place. You could just feel the unrest and energy therein as well. It is not genre specific.
For example, I'm not the biggest Tom Petty fan in the world but could he be from anywhere else other than California? Would Bruce Springsteen's music work if you were from anywhere other than New Jersey in the 60s and 70s? I'm not sure it would have resonated like it did if you were from Muscle Shoals, Alabama or Pueblo, Colorado?
With the Beastie Boys' music have worked if they had come out of Seattle? I honestly don't know? Would Pearl Jam have worked if they had come from Miami and/or released their brilliant album 10 in 1986? I don't think so.
I have lots of others but some of them are little bit in the weeds for this forum.
I will just say that I think to reach that level of success, and to touch that many people's souls, it is all about capturing a time and a place and the Eagles did that as well as any band I have ever heard.
The Eagles are great example of that. Their music just screams California cool in the carefree 1970s. I understand the fryer from Detroit but their sound came straight out of California and you could feel it. Incidentally, NWA's sound also came from Southern California - Straight Outta Compton, if you will - and it too was true to its time/place. You could just feel the unrest and energy therein as well. It is not genre specific.
For example, I'm not the biggest Tom Petty fan in the world but could he be from anywhere else other than California? Would Bruce Springsteen's music work if you were from anywhere other than New Jersey in the 60s and 70s? I'm not sure it would have resonated like it did if you were from Muscle Shoals, Alabama or Pueblo, Colorado?
With the Beastie Boys' music have worked if they had come out of Seattle? I honestly don't know? Would Pearl Jam have worked if they had come from Miami and/or released their brilliant album 10 in 1986? I don't think so.
I have lots of others but some of them are little bit in the weeds for this forum.
I will just say that I think to reach that level of success, and to touch that many people's souls, it is all about capturing a time and a place and the Eagles did that as well as any band I have ever heard.
Yep, the Rolling Stones are great example of guys being smart enough to put their egos aside so that they can continue to cash some enormous checks.
I have always looked at U2 as another shining example of that approach. You and I both know that Bono must be an enormous pain in the ass to be around every single day. Everything has to be all about him at all times. Everything U2 has ever done – both on and off stage – has been focused around featuring Bono and the Edge. I am quite certain that is very frustrating to the other members of the band - it just has to be.
However, unlike in many other bands over the years, they have always been smart enough to keep their mouths shut (at least publicly) and deal with those frustrations internally. That approach has allowed them to stand the test of time and to join bands like the Rolling Stones as examples of legendary bands that stuck together for decades and made a gazillion dollars (as well as some pretty good music) along the way.
Smart.
The Eagles played Pittsburgh many times over the years and I was lucky to have seen them 4 times. Had they not fought so much and kept playing who knows how many more great songs they may have created. Frey was polarizing in that he was part of the separation but most of the reconciliation. He was the businessman in this group and knew the value of them being together.
Who would have believed that Joe Walsh would have outlived anybody in that band?
Only Eagles concert I ever saw was the "Hell Freezes Over" tour which I think played three nights in a row out at "Starlake". Couldn't get over just how good they sounded. Doc pretty much summed it all up. If you haven't gotten to see the HBO special, you need to if you are a fan. It's very entertaining for a documentary.
Only Eagles concert I ever saw was the "Hell Freezes Over" tour which I think played three nights in a row out at "Starlake". Couldn't get over just how good they sounded. Doc pretty much summed it all up. If you haven't gotten to see the HBO special, you need to if you are a fan. It's very entertaining for a documentary.
Luck of the draw for bands and band members.
Back in the early 70's I attended Monmouth College now Monmouth U in Long Branch NJ next to Belmar and Asbury Park NJ.
In the summer we'd rent out the frat rooms to locals or others that frat brothers knew.
We had two guys who rented from 70-74 in the summer named Dave and Bruce. Niether had a reliable car so one frat brother would drop them off at E St in Belmar on his way to his lifeguard beach in Belmar NJ.
Well as it turned out it was Bruce Springsteen and Dave Sancious keyboard guy for the e street band. They had a garage to practice in around e street Belmar NJ.
At that time Springsteen and the e street band was struggling and played the college, local bars, clubs, frat houses, trailer parks, elks clubs, any gig they could get.
This guy Dave left the e street band thinking it was going nowhere and formed his own Jersey Shore band called Tone.
Well to bad Dave Tone failed and you know the rest as Springsteen skyrocketed in the early 80's.
Gotta be in the right place at the right time!
Back in the early 70's I attended Monmouth College now Monmouth U in Long Branch NJ next to Belmar and Asbury Park NJ.
In the summer we'd rent out the frat rooms to locals or others that frat brothers knew.
We had two guys who rented from 70-74 in the summer named Dave and Bruce. Niether had a reliable car so one frat brother would drop them off at E St in Belmar on his way to his lifeguard beach in Belmar NJ.
Well as it turned out it was Bruce Springsteen and Dave Sancious keyboard guy for the e street band. They had a garage to practice in around e street Belmar NJ.
At that time Springsteen and the e street band was struggling and played the college, local bars, clubs, frat houses, trailer parks, elks clubs, any gig they could get.
This guy Dave left the e street band thinking it was going nowhere and formed his own Jersey Shore band called Tone.
Well to bad Dave Tone failed and you know the rest as Springsteen skyrocketed in the early 80's.
Gotta be in the right place at the right time!
