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Rodney Gallagher - football

Yes it's 3 years! Unless your lucky you might get a couple more. Basketball you can play for 10 to 15yrs in the NBA and other pro leagues and make really good money.

If all things are equal and a player is considered just as good of a pro prospect at both sports then you pick BB. Like you said you can play a lot longer in the NBA, plus real good $ in top European leagues. In addition you don’t have to worry about head injuries.

This kid has a long way to go and who knows how well he will develop in both sports. He would most likely need a growth spurt if he wants to make it big in BB. If he doesn’t grow much he has a better chance to make it big as a DB/WR.
 
If all things are equal and a player is considered just as good of a pro prospect at both sports then you pick BB. Like you said you can play a lot longer in the NBA, plus real good $ in top European leagues. In addition you don’t have to worry about head injuries.

This kid has a long way to go and who knows how well he will develop in both sports. He would most likely need a growth spurt if he wants to make it big in BB. If he doesn’t grow much he has a better chance to make it big as a DB/WR.

I hate to admit this because I want him to play basketball here but if his ultimate goal is playing a pro sport, the NFL is so much easier to make than the NBA. Now, the NFL career and NFL money is much lower than the NBA but just making the NBA is exponentially more difficult.
 
I think we should see how tall he gets for real because he has 3 to 4 yrs of growth left. Like the grad transfer Trey Murphy we wanted he went to college at 6'5 and in 2yrs he grew to 6'8 so we have to see him play.a couple yrs of FB an BB before we pigeonhole him.
I hate to admit this because I want him to play basketball here but if his ultimate goal is playing a pro sport, the NFL is so much easier to make than the NBA. Now, the NFL career and NFL money is much lower than the NBA but just making the NBA is exponentially more difficult.
 
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I hate to admit this because I want him to play basketball here but if his ultimate goal is playing a pro sport, the NFL is so much easier to make than the NBA. Now, the NFL career and NFL money is much lower than the NBA but just making the NBA is exponentially more difficult.

"Making" the NFL includes a rookie minimum salary of about $600,000 and I think you only get that if you play all 16 games. So if you're on the practice squad all year and they activate you for weeks 14-17, you get the practice squad salary of $8,000 per week (let's say 15 weeks if you were PS the entire season = $120,000) plus 4 game checks ($600,000 / 16 * 4 = $150,000) so $270,000. That's not bad scratch but those guys are already marginal players and then have to compete with dozens of rookies and FAs the following year. So unless you outright make the squad in Year 1 it's unlikely that you can find a living playing football.

Plus, there's not really a backup league now that the XFL is gone. If you strike out in the NFL you're better off selling insurance than continuing to try to play pro football.

The G League salary is worse ($7,000 per month), as is the NBA two-way rated salary ($78,000 per year, pro-rated for days spent on the NBA roster) but you do typically get a mid-to-high 5 figure roster activation bonus. So lots of those guys can make close to $100,000 in Year 1. Plus spending a year on the G League is not a death sentence. Becoming a good NBA player often takes awhile, even for lottery picks, but most or nearly all NBA players can go past 30 (plus you can go pro at age 18-19 instead of 20-21 so that's 2 extra years of employment). The high end money for NBA players is significantly better, plus there's sneaker and endorsement money that goes far beyond what is available in the NFL. And there are far fewer known health risks associated with playing pro basketball than playing in the NFL.

Plus, if you don't make the NBA, you can always start playing overseas. Good leagues in Europe and Israel pay high-five or low-six figures. So if you play internatinal pro hoops for 2-3 years you reach the break even point of an undrafted NFL rookie that played a few games and was subsequently cut.
 
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To help you out a little with the G league they're giving more money starting next year because they don't want players to go overseas no more.
"Making" the NFL includes a rookie minimum salary of about $600,000 and I think you only get that if you play all 16 games. So if you're on the practice squad all year and they activate you for weeks 14-17, you get the practice squad salary of $8,000 per week (let's say 15 weeks if you were PS the entire season = $120,000) plus 4 game checks ($600,000 / 16 * 4 = $150,000) so $270,000. That's not bad scratch but those guys are already marginal players and then have to compete with dozens of rookies and FAs the following year. So unless you outright make the squad in Year 1 it's unlikely that you can find a living playing football.

Plus, there's not really a backup league now that the XFL is gone. If you strike out in the NFL you're better off selling insurance than continuing to try to play pro football.

The G League salary is worse ($7,000 per month), as is the NBA two-way rated salary ($78,000 per year, pro-rated for days spent on the NBA roster) but you do typically get a mid-to-high 5 figure roster activation bonus. So lots of those guys can make close to $100,000 in Year 1. Plus spending a year on the G League is not a death sentence. Becoming a good NBA player often takes awhile, even for lottery picks, but most or nearly all NBA players can go past 30. The high end money for NBA players is significantly better, plus there's sneaker and endorsement money that goes far beyond what is available in the NFL. And there are far fewer known health risks associated with playing pro basketball than playing in the NFL.

Plus, if you don't make the NBA, you can always start playing overseas. Good leagues in Europe and Israel pay high-five or low-six figures. So if you play internatinal pro hoops for 2-3 years you reach the break even point of an undrafted NFL rookie that played a few games and was subsequently cut.
 
"Making" the NFL includes a rookie minimum salary of about $600,000 and I think you only get that if you play all 16 games. So if you're on the practice squad all year and they activate you for weeks 14-17, you get the practice squad salary of $8,000 per week (let's say 15 weeks if you were PS the entire season = $120,000) plus 4 game checks ($600,000 / 16 * 4 = $150,000) so $270,000. That's not bad scratch but those guys are already marginal players and then have to compete with dozens of rookies and FAs the following year. So unless you outright make the squad in Year 1 it's unlikely that you can find a living playing football.

Plus, there's not really a backup league now that the XFL is gone. If you strike out in the NFL you're better off selling insurance than continuing to try to play pro football.

The G League salary is worse ($7,000 per month), as is the NBA two-way rated salary ($78,000 per year, pro-rated for days spent on the NBA roster) but you do typically get a mid-to-high 5 figure roster activation bonus. So lots of those guys can make close to $100,000 in Year 1. Plus spending a year on the G League is not a death sentence. Becoming a good NBA player often takes awhile, even for lottery picks, but most or nearly all NBA players can go past 30. The high end money for NBA players is significantly better, plus there's sneaker and endorsement money that goes far beyond what is available in the NFL. And there are far fewer known health risks associated with playing pro basketball than playing in the NFL.

Plus, if you don't make the NBA, you can always start playing overseas. Good leagues in Europe and Israel pay high-five or low-six figures. So if you play internatinal pro hoops for 2-3 years you reach the break even point of an undrafted NFL rookie that played a few games and was subsequently cut.

Good points. You dont know what these families are thinking. I think sometimes it comes down to NBA vs NFL. And the NFL is easier to make. And these kids think all they have to do is make a team and their talent will show out to get their millions. I do hope he picks basketball and Pitt but I'm going to predict football. Hope I'm wrong.
 
Good points. You dont know what these families are thinking. I think sometimes it comes down to NBA vs NFL. And the NFL is easier to make. And these kids think all they have to do is make a team and their talent will show out to get their millions. I do hope he picks basketball and Pitt but I'm going to predict football. Hope I'm wrong.

Yep. I'm sure they've looked at the calculus. Most of this analysis is probably a moot point, though. My guess is that kids tend to just pick the sport that they're better at.
 
Not necessarily true that's the reason why he's staying at his high school because he likes the thought of putting his hometown on the map and he likes playing for friends and family.
Now he still can go somewhere else but his mindset now from what he said it's not a given that he'll go somewhere else but he's what 15 so lets see if he feels like that in 2yrs when all the big boys come calling.
That's bad news. Pretty much confirms he will be a football player who might play a little hoops when football is done. PSU, OSU, Mich, or ND for him.
 
Seems like it’s probably wise to let the kid get his learner’s permit before we commit him to a school.
 
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You guys do know that LH is really bad in football and he'll probably be their QB.This is not noteworthy in his recruitment development because lots of good hs players play on bad teams.It could effect his health if he gets pounded for 3 years.
 
Or he can be the new Darrell revis and come to Pitt

Local big-time football players don't come to Pitt anymore. Gallagher is going to PSU, OSU, Mich, or ND for football. He'll probably also play a little hoops in college but he'll be a football player by and large. This is my official prediction.
 
Local big-time football players don't come to Pitt anymore. Gallagher is going to PSU, OSU, Mich, or ND for football. He'll probably also play a little hoops in college but he'll be a football player by and large. This is my official prediction.
Oh good, so we should expect a commitment to Pitt hoops any moment then.
 
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Local big-time football players don't come to Pitt anymore. Gallagher is going to PSU, OSU, Mich, or ND for football. He'll probably also play a little hoops in college but he'll be a football player by and large. This is my official prediction.

For the sake of holding you to your prediction, what is “a little hoops?”
 
No way he plays both sports in college.It's to difficult to play football and bb.Basketball games start in early Nov and football ends the end on Nov and then there's a bowl game.Football and baseball works out for some but not bb and football.I still think he'll be a bb player in college not football.bwdik
 
For the sake of holding you to your prediction, what is “a little hoops?”

Plays hoops his 1st season or 2 before committing solely on football. The blue bloods will sell him on allowing him to play basketball then talk him out of it.
 
ANY?? ALL?? Ok let's take a few Pitt players for example. Dejuan Blair,
and how about Sam Clancy. They were "top 50/100 basketball players."
So by your convoluted logic they'd be D1 DBs or WRs. Sorry, but it is
NOT what it always is. You did say Any and All. I'm sure other posters
could think of many more examples. I only mentioned the first two
that popped into my head.

The poster you responded to was right when he stated that your posts
are often "absurd generalizations."
But, but......SMF knows basketball.

No, but Clancy would most definitely have been a D1 D-lineman, and I think it likely Blair would have been as well.
 
No, but Clancy would most definitely have been a D1 D-lineman, and I think it likely Blair would have been as well.

Blair had 0 chance of being an NFL lineman. The man has no ACLs and would have had to gain ~50 pounds. In an alternate universe where he has all of his knee ligaments, maybe.
 
Blair had 0 chance of being an NFL lineman. The man has no ACLs and would have had to gain ~50 pounds. .

Read the post I was responding to and my response again. We're not talking about whether he would have been an NFL lineman, but lack of ACLs didn't prevent him from playing in the NBA, and how much do you think he weighed? Somewhere in the neighborhood of 290 in San Antonio,
 
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Blair had 0 chance of being an NFL lineman. The man has no ACLs and would have had to gain ~50 pounds. In an alternate universe where he has all of his knee ligaments, maybe.
He weighed 301 when he showed up freshmen year to Pitt. Guy could gain and lose 30 lbs at the drop of a hat.
 
If you have the unique athletic ability to potentially play multiple sports ( bb, Fb , baseball ) professionally and everything is equal the order should be baseball , basketball , and far in the rear Is Fb . All three pay extremely well , but the wear and tear on your body in Fb is just too great . Golf really would be the best choice !

Offers are just like early commitments , they can be rescinded .
 
No, but Clancy would most definitely have been a D1 D-lineman, and I think it likely Blair would have been as well.

Blair had major D1 football offers and his brother, who was 1/10 the athlete he was started at LB for good Cincy teams.

Just every Pitt basketball player could have played D1 football if they decided that was their sport back in middle school. Football is such an easy sport to go D1 in if you are athletic.
 
Blair had major D1 football offers and his brother, who was 1/10 the athlete he was started at LB for good Cincy teams.

Just every Pitt basketball player could have played D1 football if they decided that was their sport back in middle school. Football is such an easy sport to go D1 in if you are athletic.
I was very athletic. I could not play D1 football. Not so easy.
 
Read the post I was responding to and my response again. We're not talking about whether he would have been an NFL lineman, but lack of ACLs didn't prevent him from playing in the NBA, and how much do you think he weighed? Somewhere in the neighborhood of 290 in San Antonio,

There's a world of difference between playing in the NBA without ACLs and playing as a lineman without ACLs. You're talking about a below the rim frontcourt player vs a guy who has to bend down and fight in the trenches between 65 and 85 times a game. I'm sure there would be line coaches salivating over Blair's wingspan, but it wouldn't have worked.
 
Just curious, does anyone actually see a player that jumps of the screen as a high P5 football player at this point?

A couple of coaches who opinions I respect agreed that football film isn't impressive compared to the attention he's gardened so far.
 
Just curious, does anyone actually see a player that jumps of the screen as a high P5 football player at this point?

A couple of coaches who opinions I respect agreed that football film isn't impressive compared to the attention he's gardened so far.
I believe the offers are all potential and projection just like his basketball offers. He isn’t a HM basketball player rn
 
Just curious, does anyone actually see a player that jumps of the screen as a high P5 football player at this point?

A couple of coaches who opinions I respect agreed that football film isn't impressive compared to the attention he's gardened so far.

It is surprising to me that a player who made such little impact on a bad team at a low level of football would be such highly recruited......but I think the PSU's of the world see his basketball skill, which takes more overall athleticism than football and project him to be a 4 star DB and they'd probably be right. There's simply no way he can be a Top 50 basketball recruit but a MAC or FCS football player. Just not possible.
 
There's simply no way he can be a Top 50 basketball recruit but a MAC or FCS football player. Just not possible.

Once again you make an utter jackass of yourself. You said "there's no
way" he can be a top 50 basketball recruit.......just not possible."
You have heard of Michael Jordon, right? When he was 15 he did not
make the varsity basketball team at tiny Laney H.S. in Wilmington,
North Carolina.15 players selected ahead of him.He was sent to the JV.

Given your explanation and logic, you would have had Jordon
(maybe the all time greatest) as a no chance to be the great that he
turned out to be. For you Jordon would be..."no way...not possible."
You have no idea how much he's going to grow, develop, or for that
matter become even greater than he is now.
 
Once again you make an utter jackass of yourself. You said "there's no
way" he can be a top 50 basketball recruit.......just not possible."
You have heard of Michael Jordon, right? When he was 15 he did not
make the varsity basketball team at tiny Laney H.S. in Wilmington,
North Carolina.15 players selected ahead of him.He was sent to the JV.

Given your explanation and logic, you would have had Jordon
(maybe the all time greatest) as a no chance to be the great that he
turned out to be. For you Jordon would be..."no way...not possible."
You have no idea how much he's going to grow, develop, or for that
matter become even greater than he is now.

Perhaps I could have phrased it better. I meant there is no way Gallagher can be 2 things simultaneously

- a Top 50 basketball recruit + only MAC or FCS football recruit

He is likely a Top 50 basketball recruit meaning he has the athleticism to get major D1 offers for football.
 
I think you're overstating it. Jalen Suggs was a top 50 basketball recruit who was a mid-level 3 star quarterback recruit, and whose football offers were almost exclusively tied to his status as a basketball recruit. Suggs committed to Gonzaga, who obviously doesn't have a football team.
 
Perhaps I could have phrased it better. I meant there is no way Gallagher can be 2 things simultaneously

- a Top 50 basketball recruit + only MAC or FCS football recruit

He is likely a Top 50 basketball recruit meaning he has the athleticism to get major D1 offers for football.
At his current height/jump shot he’s a borderline top 100 recruit. Not even close to top 50
 
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