Ryan Murphy Committing Tomorrow

[Thee Jackie Treehorn]

The only real "NBA guy" on the roster during James' tenure only played one year at Pitt. Calling the likes of Patterson, Artis or Young "NBA guys" is disingenuous.

Yeah, well, I was responding to someone else's post, who indicated that Robinson only got assists because of his illustrious teammates. Believe me, I understand the distinction you're making between actual NBA guys (like Adams) and fringe of the fringe NBA guys like the others.

 

[thebadby2]

Yeah, well, I was responding to someone else's post, who indicated that Robinson only got assists because of his illustrious teammates. Believe me, I understand the distinction you're making between actual NBA guys (like Adams) and fringe of the fringe NBA guys like the others.

And I agree with your basic point about J-Rob.

 

[TheLogicalTake]

If nothing else, he should be a useful bench option. The 3PT % from JuCo is a bit scary (28%) for a kid being touted as a shooter, so here’s hoping the UNCC numbers from earlier in his career are more in line with his potential.

 

[SoufOaklin4Life]

The only real "NBA guy" on the roster during James' tenure only played one year at Pitt. Calling the likes of Patterson, Artis or Young "NBA guys" is disingenuous.

Patterson and Artis qualify
You play games in the nba- you’re an nba player

 

[4upmc]

And those NBA guys went from a 9-9 record to a 4-14 record when Robinson graduated. His departure was not the only variable, as the head coaching talent took a considerable nosedive from Dixon to Stallings. But still, it was clearly a much better team with Robinson.

When you have an idiot coach like Stallings...could go on and on about his negative impact. Clearly any avg PG (yes J Rob was avg at best in the ACC) would have helped, but Stallings like a dope decided he wants to make Artis a PG and does not need any other PG (not like JD left him one). Unless you have talent like Duke, Kentucky etc you are going to struggle most times without a PG on the roster, a coach who does not care about D, runs garbage on O, let’s the 2 main guys do whatever they want...like I said I could go on and on.

I’m actually being kind when I say he was an avg ACC PG because I could go down the rosters of every team then and make an easy case that he was below Avg. Just look at the rosters then and you will see for yourself how many PGs were better than J Rob. Hell multiple teams had 2 PGs better than him.

Like I said he was a solid game manager. He protected the ball. Could NOT shoot. Could NOT get in the paint to score. Could NOT get in the paint to get easy buckets for his mates. Where I said “NOT” go ahead and provide evidence to dispute it, I’ll wait for the evidence...

Most teams want their PG to have the ability to get in the paint to cause havoc as we saw with our Frosh X this year. If you do not have that ability you better be a knock down shooter which J Rob was NOT close to being.

 

[Tonyt66]

Khadim is down to his final 3 and Pitt has a realchanceto gethim butOleMiss is a threatandECUhastwo of his former teammates on theteam so it's going to be very interesting

 

[FireballZ]

Khadim is down to his final 3 and Pitt has a realchanceto gethim butOleMiss is a threatandECUhastwo of his former teammates on theteam so it's going to be very interesting

Why are you posting this on every thread? Thanks. We get it.

 

[Tonyt66]

Because the same people say the same dumb stuff on all the threads! So the question are you one of them???

 

[Fsgolfdr]

JRob was an excellent college point guard and if Pitt had 5 guys who were as good at their positions as he was at his they’d be a tournament team every yr .

If anyone doesn’t believe KS first yr would’ve been dramatically different had he had JRob as his pg doesn’t know bb .

Ps. as an aside note losing Morton really has no negative implications for Pitt bb . The kid never showed any great interest in Pitt bb . Not every kid wants to stay home to play ball .

 

[4upmc]

JRob was an excellent college point guard

You have to be kidding calling him an excellent college PG. Brandon, Carl and Levance were excellent college PG’s. If you think J Rob is anywhere near their class you have no clue about BB.

Do you seriously think J Rob is in the same class as those 3??? Or are you going little league where everyone gets a trophy and we have to say everyone is great smh.

 

[Fsgolfdr]

You have to be kidding calling him an excellent college PG. Brandon, Carl and Levance were excellent college PG’s. If you think J Rob is anywhere near their class you have no clue about BB.

Do you seriously think J Rob is in the same class as those 3??? Or are you going little league where everyone gets a trophy and we have to say everyone is great smh.

JRob to the best of knowledge is still playing pro ball and yes on the right team with the proper supporting cast JRob was every bit as effective as those three .Krauser had far more natural abilities.

 

[4upmc]

JRob to the best of knowledge is still playing pro ball and yes on the right team with the proper supporting cast JRob was every bit as effective as those three .Krauser had far more natural abilities.

Wow you are just being stubborn. I’m sorry but I’m not trashing your friend J Rob calling him a solid PG.

But you clearly don’t have a clue thinking he was in the same class as the 3 excellent college PG’s I listed.

Brandon- was an All American & Big East player of the year! So according to you J Rob is on the same level! GTFO of here, quit posting if you honestly think J Rob was on the same level. I can stop right there with out even bringing up the other 2 because any sort of debate you want to try is dead.

The 3 GREAT Pitt PG’s I talk about could all break down a D off the bounce. They could and did finish in the lane and get off a shot at any time. They could and did penetrate the paint drawing in the D and set up other for easy buckets. J Rob did none of this. NONE!

Scumbag Sean Miller was similar to J Rob in how he did not have the ability to break down the D. He could not finish in the paint etc. Like J Rob, Miller protected the ball and was a solid game manager. In addition Miller could drain the open 3 (42% career) unlike J Rob who could not shoot. Does anyone call Miller a great college PG? NO because like J Rob he was not.

You are trying to put J Rob in the same category as all time Pitt great PG’s and that’s insane. Please stop this foolishness.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

JRob to the best of knowledge is still playing pro ball and yes on the right team with the proper supporting cast JRob was every bit as effective as those three .Krauser had far more natural abilities.

If you truly know basketball and actually watched him play, it is easy to see what he was. A very low risk/low reward player. He was a bad shooter, couldn't get into the lane, and couldn't get guys open shots. He played good D and didn't turn it over but he also was like playing 4 on 5 on offense. He is FAR below Knight, Krauser, Fields, Johnson. I would put Tray Woodall over him. It's great that he never turned it over but there is a reason for that. He had no game. He would just pass it around the perimeter and take a long 3 at the end of the shot clock because we couldn't get open shots. I know this because I watched him for 4 years.

 

[bethpageli]

If you truly know basketball and actually watched him play, it is easy to see what he was. A very low risk/low reward player. He was a bad shooter, couldn't get into the lane, and couldn't get guys open shots. He played good D and didn't turn it over but he also was like playing 4 on 5 on offense. He is FAR below Knight, Krauser, Fields, Johnson. I would put Tray Woodall over him. It's great that he never turned it over but there is a reason for that. He had no game. He would just pass it around the perimeter and take a long 3 at the end of the shot clock because we couldn't get open shots. I know this because I watched him for 4 years.

You must be so proud. Every discussion you try to hold you end up denigrating a Pitt person. You truly are an unstable person. Spend the night celebrating some kid deciding to play in the bowels of the mid west. He must be great. didn't come here.

 

[Fsgolfdr]

If you truly know basketball and actually watched him play, it is easy to see what he was. A very low risk/low reward player. He was a bad shooter, couldn't get into the lane, and couldn't get guys open shots. He played good D and didn't turn it over but he also was like playing 4 on 5 on offense. He is FAR below Knight, Krauser, Fields, Johnson. I would put Tray Woodall over him. It's great that he never turned it over but there is a reason for that. He had no game. He would just pass it around the perimeter and take a long 3 at the end of the shot clock because we couldn't get open shots. I know this because I watched him for 4 years.

So did I , so did JD and so did all of the other pg who choose not to go to Pitt while he was there . He was in complete control of the team from day one , he was a natural born leader . Was he a future HOF guy , no but he was a solid player who ran the offense his coach wanted . Had Pitt ever had an off guard that could shoot the ball from 3 his personal stats would’ve been much better .
Everyone just wants to blame KS coaching for Pitts collapse in 2016 , but denying the fact that that team had only one major personal change from the previous yr had nothing to do with Pitts play is just seeing what they want to see . Not having JRob at point was the major cause for 2016’s collapse . He was a solid player who made very few mistakes , shot FT at close to 80% and he was the kind of player who made everyone else on the floor better . He was a facilitator not a flashy guy like X or a scorer like KK and he didn’t play in an era when Pitt was a national power surrounded by great players , but I’ll take a player like JRob on my team every yr .
Sean Miller would be the guy he resembles the most of all the past Panther pg , but look who Sean was surrounded by . Charles Smith , Jerome Lane , Jason Mathews , D Gore , Brian Shorter etc not really the same level of players !

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

So did I , so did JD and so did all of the other pg who choose not to go to Pitt while he was there . He was in complete control of the team from day one , he was a natural born leader . Was he a future HOF guy , no but he was a solid player who ran the offense his coach wanted . Had Pitt ever had an off guard that could shoot the ball from 3 his personal stats would’ve been much better .
Everyone just wants to blame KS coaching for Pitts collapse in 2016 , but denying the fact that that team had only one major personal change from the previous yr had nothing to do with Pitts play is just seeing what they want to see . Not having JRob at point was the major cause for 2016’s collapse . He was a solid player who made very few mistakes , shot FT at close to 80% and he was the kind of player who made everyone else on the floor better . He was a facilitator not a flashy guy like X or a scorer like KK and he didn’t play in an era when Pitt was a national power surrounded by great players , but I’ll take a player like JRob on my team every yr .
Sean Miller would be the guy he resembles the most of all the past Panther pg , but look who Sean was surrounded by . Charles Smith , Jerome Lane , Jason Mathews , D Gore , Brian Shorter etc not really the same level of players !

It wasnt the fact they didn't have Robinson that caused the 2016 collapse, it was the fact they didn't have ANY point guard. Of course, Robinson would have made that team better. He was a mediocre PG and that team didn't even have that.

 

[Fsgolfdr]

It wasnt the fact they didn't have Robinson that caused the 2016 collapse, it was the fact they didn't have ANY point guard. Of course, Robinson would have made that team better. He was a mediocre PG and that team didn't even have that.

Every player whose ever played at Pitt is mediocre according to you ....

 

[thebadby2]

Patterson and Artis qualify
You play games in the nba- you’re an nba player

A 'bunch of NBA guys" implies the team had multiple bona-fide NBA players on it. The poster was going to an illogical length to suggest that we had a team loaded with future NBA-caliber players. That simply was not the case. No more so than for just about any other D1 team out there; all of them have guys who get sniffs at the NBA. By reasonable definition, a brief cup of coffee in the show for a player who has otherwise spent several years in the D/G league or overseas doesn't qualify a player as a "NBA guy".

 

[Pitt1992]

an NBA guy is defined as someone who plays in the NBA,the average lifespan of an NBA and NFL player is 1yr or less in the pros

 

[thebadby2]

an NBA guy is defined as someone who plays in the NBA,the average lifespan of an NBA and NFL player is 1yr or less in the pros

Whatever dude.

So tell me again who our “bunch of NBA guys” were on the last 2 JROB teams.

 

[DT_PITT]

Patterson and Artis qualify
You play games in the nba- you’re an nba player

Plus Lamar was drafted which is no little feat.

 

[DT_PITT]

You have to be kidding calling him an excellent college PG. Brandon, Carl and Levance were excellent college PG’s. If you think J Rob is anywhere near their class you have no clue about BB.

Do you seriously think J Rob is in the same class as those 3??? Or are you going little league where everyone gets a trophy and we have to say everyone is great smh.

I'd call him a solid college point guard.

 

[4upmc]

I'd call him a solid college point guard.

Thank you and that’s what I called him. Anyone who tries to put him in the same category with all time Pitt great PG’s like Brandon, Carl & Levance needs to quit talking about Pitt BB & check into a Psych Ward because they are insane.

 

[DiehardPanther]

Murphy signed today.