Says a lot about our coach and players

[Fsgolfdr]

First, I am happy we won and hope we win tomorrow and every game after that !

Second, I agree that some situations need to be physically practiced and some can just be discussed.

Third, I suspect as I stated that almost any game we win this year is likely to come down to an end of the game situation so those need to be emphasized by the coaches to players.

Fourth, as I already stated, I don't think it made a significant difference whether he made or missed the FT but if Capel believed the best play was to miss it on purpose and Will looked confused about it, a five second explanation would probably have sufficed ..... if Capel thought he would confuse Will more by a brief explanation attempt and just told him to make it, I think that was fine ...... the point is that there seems to have been confusion in end of the game situations two games in a row so I think it needs to be a point of emphasis for the coaches especially since IMO most of our wins are likely to be close and come down to the last few possessions.

Being that every member of the staff was a HC at one time I’m sure they knew how to practice end of game scenarios .

Whether your team executes them is another thing and I understand that there needs to be proper communication of your plan of attack.

For some guys however there’s no amount of time for them to master where they should be while others have that natural understanding of the game .

 

[Franb]

First, I am happy we won and hope we win tomorrow and every game after that !

Second, I agree that some situations need to be physically practiced and some can just be discussed.

Third, I suspect as I stated that almost any game we win this year is likely to come down to an end of the game situation so those need to be emphasized by the coaches to players.

Fourth, as I already stated, I don't think it made a significant difference whether he made or missed the FT but if Capel believed the best play was to miss it on purpose and Will looked confused about it, a five second explanation would probably have sufficed ..... if Capel thought he would confuse Will more by a brief explanation attempt and just told him to make it, I think that was fine ...... the point is that there seems to have been confusion in end of the game situations two games in a row so I think it needs to be a point of emphasis for the coaches especially since IMO most of our wins are likely to be close and come down to the last few possessions.

Intentionally Missing a free throw does need practice, though. The shot has to miss, but still hit the rim. If a player has shot thousands of free throws in practice, trying to make them, it will take some level of practice to miss on purpose.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

There is a lot of basketball left this year. A lot...

You can put me in the camp that is not throwing in the towel on Capel yet. Recruiting can be salvaged with wins. The crowd will come back with wins. The team needs to start winning, now. And after a 2-6 start, they easily could have mailed it in and quit. The players didnt quit.

What do you think? Maybe NIT and a Top 5-6 ACC recruiting class?

 

[Fsgolfdr]

Intentionally Missing a free throw does need practice, though. The shot has to miss, but still hit the rim. If a player has shot thousands of free throws in practice, trying to make them, it will take some level of practice to miss on purpose.

If you think anyone with any reasonable level of skill can’t intentionally miss a FT , a putt , a strike in bowling , overthrow or under throw a pass you’ve never been very proficient in that sport . It doesn’t take any practice just a willingness to miss .

Sometimes even with best intentions to miss the dam ball goes in !

 

[NCanton Panther]

If you think anyone with any reasonable level of skill can’t intentionally miss a FT , a putt , a strike in bowling , overthrow or under throw a pass you’ve never been very proficient in that sport . It doesn’t take any practice just a willingness to miss .

Sometimes even with best intentions to miss the dam ball goes in !

Ok, I’ll confess, based on your 1st paragraph and then your last sentence paragraph, I don’t have a clue what point you’re trying to make or whether you agree or disagree with Franb.

 

[Fsgolfdr]

Ok, I’ll confess, based on your 1st paragraph and then your last sentence paragraph, I don’t have a clue what point you’re trying to make or whether you agree or disagree with Franb.

I think a kid on a D1 scholarship can miss a free throw 99% of the time if instructed too .

 

[gary2]

I think a kid on a D1 scholarship can miss a free throw 99% of the time if instructed too .

I think 99% of D1 kids instructed to miss a free throw in that situation, understand that instruction.

I think 99% of D1 coaches who give that instruction, stick with that instruction.

 

[BballinsiderfromPitt]

There is a lot of basketball left this year. A lot...

You can put me in the camp that is not throwing in the towel on Capel yet. Recruiting can be salvaged with wins. The crowd will come back with wins. The team needs to start winning, now. And after a 2-6 start, they easily could have mailed it in and quit. The players didnt quit.

That’s true. Quite the feat to roar back and upset Colgate on the home court instead of mailing it in to get to 3-6!

they already have the buyout worked out. It’s over

 

[TWPitt]

That’s true. Quite the feat to roar back and upset Colgate on the home court instead of mailing it in to get to 3-6!

they already have the buyout worked out. It’s over

So is the buyout comment the same accuracy as Jarrod West coming here ?

 

[BballinsiderfromPitt]

So is the buyout comment the same accuracy as Jarrod West coming here ?

No. The negotiating of the buyout isn’t done. But the boosters have had the $ lined up since before this disastrous start. The Capel era is over.

And you should be saying Thank God instead of questioning it. It’s only going to get worse.

 

[TWPitt]

No. The negotiating of the buyout isn’t done. But the boosters have had the $ lined up since before this disastrous start. The Capel era is over.

And you should be saying Thank God instead of questioning it. It’s only going to get worse.

I’m good either way. I just want to actually see a quality basketball team play.

 

[Chescat]

No. The negotiating of the buyout isn’t done. But the boosters have had the $ lined up since before this disastrous start. The Capel era is over.

And you should be saying Thank God instead of questioning it. It’s only going to get worse.

I have no idea of the
"buyout" you continually
mention. You may be very
right about it, I personally
have no clue. How is it that
you do?

What I do have a clue about
is the performance of our
last three games. We're at
least playing to our talent
level. That is both good and
bad. The bad is that "level"
is talent poor for an ACC
team.
I don't see much, if any
room for improvement
with this group. I've watched
some of the teams that
were supposed to be at the
bottom of the ACC with us;
BC, and WF. They are better
than we are, and they're doing
better than expected. This
game with Monmouth will tell
us a lot. They are better than
the cupcakes we've both lost
to and beaten.

 

[Fsgolfdr]

No. The negotiating of the buyout isn’t done. But the boosters have had the $ lined up since before this disastrous start. The Capel era is over.

And you should be saying Thank God instead of questioning it. It’s only going to get worse.

Before this “ disastrous start “ Mintz was committed plus Nike was healthy and Horton had no legal issues . So just when recruiting seemed to be turning the corner these Anonymous boosters have rounded up many millions of dollars to boot JC out . Your timing seems dubious to me .

 

[BballinsiderfromPitt]

Before this “ disastrous start “ Mintz was committed plus Nike was healthy and Horton had no legal issues . So just when recruiting seemed to be turning the corner these Anonymous boosters have rounded up many millions of dollars to boot JC out . Your timing seems dubious to me .

Many other factors at play with Old Money at Pitt

 

[Ski11585]

Many other factors at play with Old Money at Pitt

Hopefully this time goes better than the last time the Old Money forced out Pitt's coach. Sadly, their track record of showing good judgement is lacking.

 

[gary2]

Many other factors at play with Old Money at Pitt

All for it

 

[King Of All Message Boards]

Before this “ disastrous start “ Mintz was committed plus Nike was healthy and Horton had no legal issues . So just when recruiting seemed to be turning the corner these Anonymous boosters have rounded up many millions of dollars to boot JC out . Your timing seems dubious to me .

He had 1 commit. That’s turning the corner on recruiting? And there wasn’t any thing else even close to concrete. Just plenty of speculation and fever dreams.

 

[Vader_Storm]

He had 1 commit. That’s turning the corner on recruiting? And there wasn’t any thing else even close to concrete. Just plenty of speculation and fever dreams.

For 2022, Darren Buchanan was very close to committing to Pitt in the early period before things went south. And he still might in the late period if Capel wins some games.

 

[Pittnerski]

I couldn’t even tell you who we are recruiting at this point. And that’s a huge problem give the state of the roster

 

[King Of All Message Boards]

For 2022, Darren Buchanan was very close to committing to Pitt in the early period before things went south. And he still might in the late period if Capel wins some games.

Yea. Dixon was close a number of times too. Guys like Swanigan and the kid who went to ND. And a number of others. Close means bubkes. Fact remains Capel had 1 verbal.

 

[Vader_Storm]

I couldn’t even tell you who we are recruiting at this point. And that’s a huge problem give the state of the roster

I most certainly could. And there is still some legit talent interested in us despite everything that has happened. But it means nothing without winning some games.

 

[Fsgolfdr]

He had 1 commit. That’s turning the corner on recruiting? And there wasn’t any thing else even close to concrete. Just plenty of speculation and fever dreams.

Absolutely getting a top 50 kid is just what this program needs . The first one is the hardest one to get .

Pitt was a nothing program under Dr Roy and then they got an All American guard out of Buffalo named Curtis Aiken the next some kid from Conn named Charles Smith came and Demetrius Gore decided to join the party too , Jerome joined the following yr . It all started with Curtis .

 

[gary2]

Absolutely getting a top 50 kid is just what this program needs . The first one is the hardest one to get .

Pitt was a nothing program under Dr Roy and then they got an All American guard out of Buffalo named Curtis Aiken the next some kid from Conn named Charles Smith came and Demetrius Gore decided to join the party too , Jerome joined the following yr . It all started with Curtis .

Nothing program?

Conference tournament champion and NCAAtournament first two seasons.

Roy Chipman Coaching Record | College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com

Roy Chipman Coaching Record

www.sports-reference.com

Curtis Aiken was closer to nothing than Roy Chipman.

Roy Chipman could actually Coach. It has been so long since any Pitt fan has seen a coach who could coach, it is no wonder some don’t remember it.

 

[TheSpecialSauce]

Nothing program?

Conference tournament champion and NCAAtournament first two seasons.

Roy Chipman Coaching Record | College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com

Roy Chipman Coaching Record

www.sports-reference.com

Curtis Aiken was closer to nothing than Roy Chipman.

Roy Chipman could actually Coach. It has been so long since any Pitt fan has seen a coach who could coach, it is no wonder some don’t remember it.

 

[gary2]

Nothing program?

Conference tournament champion and NCAAtournament first two seasons.

Roy Chipman Coaching Record | College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com

Roy Chipman Coaching Record

www.sports-reference.com

Curtis Aiken was closer to nothing than Roy Chipman.

Roy Chipman could actually Coach. It has been so long since any Pitt fan has seen a coach who could coach, it is no wonder some don’t remember it.

Request Rejected

www.utimes.pitt.edu

 

[King Of All Message Boards]

Absolutely getting a top 50 kid is just what this program needs . The first one is the hardest one to get .

Pitt was a nothing program under Dr Roy and then they got an All American guard out of Buffalo named Curtis Aiken the next some kid from Conn named Charles Smith came and Demetrius Gore decided to join the party too , Jerome joined the following yr . It all started with Curtis .

No argument there. Mintz was a very nice piece. Could he have been a big part of turning the corner? I’m sure he could have been. But it’s still speculation.

As far as Chipman - if you remember that I’m sure you’ll remember the Golden Panthers. While I get what you’re saying I’m not sure that’s quite apples to apples.

 

[Fsgolfdr]

Nothing program?

Conference tournament champion and NCAAtournament first two seasons.

Roy Chipman Coaching Record | College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com

Roy Chipman Coaching Record

www.sports-reference.com

curtis Aiken was closer to nothing than Roy Chipman.

Curtis was the biggest recruit Pitt had ever had , their first McDonalds AA , he started the flow of great players to Pitt . The talent level of bb was never that good before except for the Billy Knight team under Buzz .

Even under JDs time they never had nationally ranked recruits like they did then Aiken Smith Gore Lane Shorter Martin Miller Mathews ……was great !

Pitt made the tournament in his first 2 yrs going 8-5 & 8-6 in conference but with all the talent he didn’t really excel before he resigned and Evans too over . I personally believe he resigned do to the way talent was being acquired .

 

[Fsgolfdr]

No argument there. Mintz was a very nice piece. Could he have been a big part of turning the corner? I’m sure he could have been. But it’s still speculation.

As far as Chipman - if you remember that I’m sure you’ll remember the Golden Panthers. While I get what you’re saying I’m not sure that’s quite apples to apples.

It has to start somewhere . As I said above I believe that’s why Dr Roy quit .

 

[gary2]

It is my understanding that Chipman was part of our golden age of buying players.

He resigned because his kid asked him about. Cheating (or he was about to get caught).

Evans was the benefit of all this and really never capitalized. IMHO.

Chipman was 10 times the coach Evans ever was.

 

[gary2]

I believe their is a scholarship in Roy Chipman’s name. Know I have seen it listed in past football programs.

 

[gary2]

It is my understanding that Chipman was part of our golden age of buying players.

He resigned because his kid asked him about. Cheating (or he was about to get caught).

Evans was the benefit of all this and really never capitalized. IMHO.

Chipman was 10 times the coach Evans ever

SPORTS PEOPLE; Pitt Loses a Coach (Published 1985)

www.nytimes.com

 

[Fsgolfdr]

It is my understanding that Chipman was part of our golden age of buying players.

He resigned because his kid asked him about. Cheating (or he was about to get caught).

Evans was the benefit of all this and really never capitalized. IMHO.

Chipman was 10 times the coach Evans ever was .

The one time in bb Pitt got THE HOT COACH and it turned out to be Paul Evans . I could’ve won at Navy with the Admiral.