After all, the Dukes dropped their opener by 10 points and there was so much enthusiasm for the program going into this year.
Should Duquesne fire Keith Dambrot...
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No. He was 21-9 last year. Let’s not be this dumb people.
Also, a neutral site game vs a Sun Belt team who was pretty good last year and should be good this year is different than being blown out by a SFU team that had 9 new guys and sucks.
Also, no one is calling for Capel to be fired.
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What an excellent apples to apples comparison!!! Ugh
My point is only that it happens. Capel was practically crucified after the SF loss. The insinuation by many on here was that was proof that the season was lost and yes, some said he is a failure and should go.
For the BILLIONTH time, it was not the loss. It’s HOW they lost.
Thus far, Dambrot has done much more with his program than Capel has with his. And I'm saying this and I don't like Duquesne at all.
I don't care about Duquesne one way or another. But Dambrot can develop talent and help them improve while not having a program that might have the advantages of a Pitt in the ACC. He's not supposed to get the talent that Capel is supposed to get but isn't. And Capel has already proven he can't develop talent, with the exception of Toney. And Toney is developing himself more than anything.
Little Rock expected to win the division. St. Francis lost their 2 leading scorers and picked to finish next to last in their conference. There was a big difference.
Actually, it doesn't happen, as in Pitt had never lost to SFPA in their history. IIRC, Pitt had never lost to ANY member of the NEC until we lost to Wagner.
Pitt should never lose games like that.
That and the fact that the NEC is nowhere near as good as the Sun Belt.
Wagner was ranked #102 according to Pomeroy that year.
I meant like SFPA, who is 241. Capel has supervised at least one really inexcusable loss in each of his seasons.
Not to mention Wagner had at the time one of the 15 best coaches in college basketball.
I'm not going to argue that Pitt SHOULD lose to Wagner often or ever, but that was an example of a team deserving to lose. People (maybe even me) were probably giving the same defensive BS back then about how sometimes teams have an off night and lose to bad teams, when that game was actually pretty clear evidence that Pitt's team that year was way worse than expected.
Pitt should not ever lose to SFPA and it may eventually be pretty clear evidence that Capel's third roster is way worse than expected. If nothing else, it is pretty clear evidence (IMO) that Capel does not have a very good approach each November and does not hold the reins tight enough to avoid these absolute blunders.
2020: 241 SFPA
2019: 193 Nicholls St
2018: 315 Niagara
Stallings' worst losses were 224 Duquesne and 225 Navy. Twice in three years, Capel has a worse loss than Kevin freaking Stallings.
He was rightfully “crucified” because that was arguably the WORST loss in Pitt Hoops history. Under absolutely no circumstances should Pitt EVER lose to St Francis especially going away and being totally outclassed & out coached. Inexcusable.
Even just qualitatively, it is an absurd result for the opener of your third season. You could partially excuse those other losses based on where he was in his rebuild.
This is the basketball equivalent of Wannstedt losing to Bowling Green to start 2008. Even if it has little or no bearing on the overall outcome of this season, it’s a putrid emotional situation for a program striving for relevance.
Points taken for sure ... I didn't actually realize Niagara was that low two years ago. 315? Wow.
I guess the only difference was that the Niagara game was a close game in the first half, we let the game slip away from us midway in the second half, and then we battled back to be able to shoot to win on the last possession.
We were never in the SFPA game unfortunately.
The loss to StF was inexcusable for a program that is supposed to be an ACC program. And to grind salt into the wound, the manner in which we lost to them was horrible. The loss itself and the manner in which we lost are on Capel's shoulders and his responsibility. He has made minimal to no progress with this program and he is now in his third year at Pitt. Maybe he's just a lot of nice talk....like a used car salesman.
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