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Should that have been a penalty on the PR TD?

The two gunners completely whiffing was the major issue with that play...not the block.

They whiffed due to stopping when the returner stopped looking like it was a fair catch.

Anyways it’s senseless to argue, it wasn’t called, so it doesn’t matter and the game wouldn’t have changed.
 
I don't like the rule, but it's the rule. And it was dutifully called by the refs on the field, who so many here say are sacred. There was absolutely not clarity in the videos. If the much more dubious targeting call against Jones on a routine sack some weeks back survived scrutiny, this should have as well.

And the hold on the Homer run indeed was blatant.

Miami still deserved the win. An offense as bad as ours likely wouldn't have scored a TD against them if they were still playing right now.

And Miami may well have gone on to score tds on those 2 very possessions. They were the better team. Only self imposed drops prevented a bigger deficit. It was bound to happen some time.

But factually, granting Miami those 2 particular TDs was not deserved.


I like the rule. You should be able to clobber anyone, it’s the Hines Ward rule and should be legal. In fact, targeting should be allowed. They always say we need more vegetables...
 
Or, just really good blocking downfield by a receiver, something our team is noted for. At least I can see an argument here, but watching it live shows he is clearly driving the defender downfield.


Haha

Well thanks for coming on the board to troll
 
Perhaps. And I should also be married to Kate Upton. Neither are pertinent to the fact at hand.

I have no idea as to what you’re driving to - they make the tackle there is no block. And they save their teammate from getting totally destroyed by a block that’s been in football for a century.
 
They whiffed due to stopping when the returner stopped looking like it was a fair catch.

Anyways it’s senseless to argue, it wasn’t called, so it doesn’t matter and the game wouldn’t have changed.

No...they whiffed because they took bad angles - that wasn’t even close to being a fair catch signal. We’re just reaching now.
 
I have no idea as to what you’re driving to - they make the tackle there is no block. And they save their teammate from getting totally destroyed by a block that’s been in football for a century.

Exactly it doesn’t matter if it is dirty play and can cause major long term harm to a young guy. The important thing is keeping things as they are. I’ve been telling my slaves that for years
 
I have no idea as to what you’re driving to - they make the tackle there is no block. And they save their teammate from getting totally destroyed by a block that’s been in football for a century.
But those things didn't happen, so the illegal play did occur.
 
Exactly it doesn’t matter if it is dirty play and can cause major long term harm to a young guy. The important thing is keeping things as they are. I’ve been telling my slaves that for years
That's a different and frankly irrelevant argument here. Good or bad the rule is the rule. They called it on the field. There was no irrefutable evidence to justify overturning. Indeed, head to head contact was seen, if anything it corroborated the call. That's the true issue.
 
That's a different and frankly irrelevant argument here. Good or bad the rule is the rule. They called it on the field. There was no irrefutable evidence to justify overturning. Indeed, head to head contact was seen, if anything it corroborated the call. That's the true issue.

No I agree. I’m saying the same thing just being sarcastic
 
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Haha

Well thanks for coming on the board to troll

Never troll. Usually always take the time to support anything I post with Gif's or full video's, as I did here. I do recognize your type of poster, we have many of them on the Miami board as well. Honestly, I've never understood the whole conflict thing. Must be generational. I much prefer just honestly discussing football with knowledgeable fans, something that I have been pleasantly surprised to find many of here.
 
Dallas raised his hand to about eye level as he drop stepped with his left foot to retreat for the ball. He then move his hand backwards as he moved to catch the ball. A fair catch signal requires he raise his hand clearly above his head and wave his hand more than once. It was not a fair catch signal.

From the NCAA Rule Book:

ARTICLE 2. A valid signal is a signal given by a player of Team B who has obviously signaled his intention by extending one hand only clearly above his head and waving that hand from side to side of his body more than once.

It was clearly not a fair catch signal, other than the diehards I don’t think anyone really disputes that.
 
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It was clearly not a fair catch signal, other than the diehards I don’t think anyone really disputes that.

Definitely agree. He definitely did not signal for a fair catch deliberately. He accidentally waved his hand up. But it was obvious our guys thought it was. It was obvious to the broadcast team too who was saying they thought it was a fair catch.
 
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If the rule is on the books, dumb as it is (and it is), and it's called on the field (as it was), it should have been absolutely irrefutable to overturn it.

Even the middle school girls league softball umpires here, who continually bleat that refs are infallible gods, were admitting that the replays had ambiguity. Head contact was made, refs called it, it shouldn't have been overturned, and it was a huge turning point in a low scoring game.

All the Penn State trolls taking a break from anally assaulting the 7 year olds shackled up in their basement to start new accounts here, plus the usual argue- everything- regardless- how retarded types that infest the internet, posting gibberish to the contrary won't change these facts.

Reversing that call went against every bit of precedent established in recent years and shouldn't have been done, whatever the motive the guys in Charlotte had to order it so (but clearly they did, given it took an eternity).

THAT is the truth. Lock the thread.
It was irrefutable
 
The NFL made that block illegal, the Hines Ward rule. I am pretty sure it is illegal in college as well but these refs are just ridiculous so who knows.

But blindside blocks like this one are illegal in the NFL for sure.
 
and for the record helmet to helmet contact doesn't even come into play, blindside blocks are illegal. Not surprising that the ACC refs have no clue what the rules are
 
and for the record helmet to helmet contact doesn't even come into play, blindside blocks are illegal. Not surprising that the ACC refs have no clue what the rules are

Shhh don’t bring facts into it. Some posters think the refs are absolutely infallible and any question about a bad call on a pitt forum is paramount to calling their mothers whores.
 
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Just watch the highlight

It’s crazy to argue
The officiating professionals who watch the replays and make the calls professionally reviewed every angle in slow motion six ways to Sunday and found it to be a clean play.

But no, President Stache of the Pantherlair, sitting in his armchair somewhere in western PA, is the guy who has it all figured out.

Anyway, does that play really matter when the Pitt offense can't even get a first down?
 
It was definitely a blind side hit. The exact same thing Hines Ward used to do and why it was made illegal.
Not even close

He stepped in front of him in the direct path the Pitt player was running .
It wasn’t a change of direction circumstance- which is what a blindside hit would be.

No penalty.
And conclusive evidence to overturn the call on the field .move on
 
Lmao.. lookup what blindside means.. Or do our players all have their eye in the back of their heads. The Miami guy hit him in the Chest, that is the complete opposite of a blindside hit. God our fans are stupid

Lookup what Hines Ward did with Pittsburgh and look up what the Miami player did and explain to me what the difference is.
 
Not even close

He stepped in front of him in the direct path the Pitt player was running .
It wasn’t a change of direction circumstance- which is what a blindside hit would be.

No penalty.
And conclusive evidence to overturn the call on the field .move on

Do you know what a blind side hit is? Do you know why the NFL banned the Hines Ward blocks? They aren't clips, so why are they illegal?
 
That's a textbook clean block and you'd all be losing your shit about how great a play it was if the jerseys were reversed. If you want to complain about anything, complain about the fair catch signal, but that block was fine.
 
That’s what he is doing

Rewatch the video. His hand never goes above his eye level and he doesn't wave the hand back and forth as required. It goes from in front of his face back over his left shoulder as he drop steps to the left to move to catch the ball. Definitely by rule not a valid signal.
 
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