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Shows we can compete with anybody

Agreed. Narduzzi is in his second year of trying to install his system. Needs to recruit at a high level on both sides of the ball, but just the defensive side
 
I don't think today shows that we can compete with anybody. I think it shows just the opposite. OK STATE has only won 2 of their last 6 games going back to last year. They lost 45-35 to Baylor, 58-23 to OU, and 48-20 to Ole Miss. After beating SE Louisiana, they lose to CMU before squeaking out a win today.
 
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Even without a passing attack and questionable speed on d we nearly won. Imagine when these recruit are ready to play, will be good
Slappy post of the season so far.

We can "compete with anybody" because we suffered a close loss to a borderline top 25 team that just lost to a MAC team at home?
 
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I don't think today shows that we can compete with anybody. I think it shows just the opposite. OK STATE has only won 2 of their last 6 games going back to last year. They lost 45-35 to Baylor, 58-23 to OU, and 48-20 to Ole Miss. After beating SE Louisiana, they lose to CMU before squeaking out a win today.

So.you agree then.that penn state cant compete against us? As another poster said you stood behind oenn state last week. We werre penn state this week.and yire still negative?
 
Pitt did compete with them & fought hard. I just don't think OK STATE is very good. They can still win a lot of games end the season ranked, as the Big XII is a horrible conference.
 
They looked plenty good on offense to.me. great qb, great wr, very experiebce oline.

Everyone knew.going in we didnt havr the offensive horses to win
 
So.you agree then.that penn state cant compete against us? As another poster said you stood behind oenn state last week. We werre penn state this week.and yire still negative?

Stood behind PSU? It depends on what you mean. I think PSU fought hard last week & I think their offense is obviously much improved over last year. They are horrible defensively and lack talent. Overall they still suck. I'd be surprised if Michigan didn't beat the living hell out of them next week. Like Pitt, they are improving, but they are still bad. I think Pitt is better than the Nits right now.
 
No. I'm not negative. I just disagree with the notion that today "proves we can play with anybody" because we clearly can't.

I hate to hear the phrase "headed in the right direction" because, IMHO, I think that is one of the dumbest phrases in sports. However, I'm on board with the current staff and I think there is potential for a bright future at Pitt.

The reason today's loss stings so much and is so discouraging, is because I think Pitt had the potential to be one of this year's paper tigers, much like last year's UNC team. A flawed team that can reel off a lot of wins and play an exciting brand of football, and make a lot of noise before getting exposed. (because no, we aren't ready to play with college football's elite) Because honestly, I think Pitt can beat UNC and then they would have been favored to go into Miami 8-0.

Pitt can still put together a nice season and take a big step foward this year. Today knocked a little shine off that though.
 
We could lose 7 this year , or we could only lose 3, this team is so very unpredictable in my opinion
 
We could lose 7 this year , or we could only lose 3, this team is so very unpredictable in my opinion

I have thought that exact same thing almost every year since 2010. However, I think this team is better than that. I don't think they will do any worse than 8-4 in regular season. 7-5 is the absolute worst case scenario for this team.

So in the past, where I've said between 5 to 8 wins, I think this team wins between 7 and 10.
 
I have thought that exact same thing almost every year since 2010. However, I think this team is better than that. I don't think they will do any worse than 8-4 in regular season. 7-5 is the absolute worst case scenario for this team.

So in the past, where I've said between 5 to 8 wins, I think this team wins between 7 and 10.

Look at the games that could be toss ups, and the games that are wins and loses , and tell me we can't lose 6
 
Look at the games that could be toss ups, and the games that are wins and loses , and tell me we can't lose 6

I think the games against Marshall, Ga Tech, UVA, Duke, and Syracuse are wins. GaTech is the only game of those 5 where I think its even remotely possible to lose. I think UNC is a toss-up. I want to see more of VaTech, but I right now, I think that game is a probable win for Pitt. I would give Miami a slight edge over Pitt and I think we will lose at Clemson.

At least thats how I see things after 3 weeks.
 
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For me ....

Wins: Marshall, UVA, Cuse
Toss ups : G tech , V Tech, Duke
Losses: UNC, Clemson, Miami

So, if I had to say right now, I will go 8-4.
 
Miami will score close to 50 on us just like OK State did and so will Clemson. I'm afraid it won't be pretty.
 
For me ....

Wins: Marshall, UVA, Cuse
Toss ups : G tech , V Tech, Duke
Losses: UNC, Clemson, Miami

So, if I had to say right now, I will go 8-4.
More likely to go 7-5 or 6-6. Penn State is really an average team between 35-45 in the country. G tech and V tech are the questions.
 
I'm on board with the current staff and I think there is potential for a bright future at Pitt.
= "We're headed in the right direction", IMO.

I agree by the way, as Pitt is not there yet, but considering that OKl. St. is a bad match-up with this defense and an emotional win last week , Pitt is making progress.
 
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= "We're headed in the right direction", IMO.

I agree by the way, as Pitt is not there yet, but considering that OKl. St. is a bad match-up with this defense and an emotional win last week , Pitt is making progress.

I agree, we are making progress, just don't like the OC hire at all, but I need to understand Duzz does, for some reason, and he knows more than me.
 
I agree, we are making progress, just don't like the OC hire at all, but I need to understand Duzz does, for some reason, and he knows more than me.

I really dont understand how our offense can be better than what it is now. Sounds like the idiots that complained at Cavanaugh although pitt set franchise records on offense. Are they perfect and infallible? No... But we are making a bunch of 3 star average players look good and have a chance to win every game
 
Even without a passing attack and questionable speed on d we nearly won. Imagine when these recruit are ready to play, will be good
I will reserve judgement on the veracity of this statement until after the Clemson game. If we can go to their house and play a competitive game, then I'll agree. The only thing I think this game absolutely proved is that our secondary is really bad.

Cruzer
 
They looked plenty good on offense to.me. great qb, great wr, very experiebce oline.

Everyone knew.going in we didnt havr the offensive horses to win
They threw for 540 yards against our defense and your belief is we lost the game because of offensive deficiencies? You sure you didn't mean we didn't have the defensive horses? If so, I agree with your post.
 
No. I'm not negative. I just disagree with the notion that today "proves we can play with anybody" because we clearly can't.

I hate to hear the phrase "headed in the right direction" because, IMHO, I think that is one of the dumbest phrases in sports. However, I'm on board with the current staff and I think there is potential for a bright future at Pitt.

The reason today's loss stings so much and is so discouraging, is because I think Pitt had the potential to be one of this year's paper tigers, much like last year's UNC team. A flawed team that can reel off a lot of wins and play an exciting brand of football, and make a lot of noise before getting exposed. (because no, we aren't ready to play with college football's elite) Because honestly, I think Pitt can beat UNC and then they would have been favored to go into Miami 8-0.

Pitt can still put together a nice season and take a big step foward this year. Today knocked a little shine off that though.

Stood behind PSU? It depends on what you mean. I think PSU fought hard last week & I think their offense is obviously much improved over last year. They are horrible defensively and lack talent. Overall they still suck. I'd be surprised if Michigan didn't beat the living hell out of them next week. Like Pitt, they are improving, but they are still bad. I think Pitt is better than the Nits right now.

I'm so confused - you say Pitt is "improving" but "not headed in the right direction". Which one is it?
 
They threw for 540 yards against our defense and your belief is we lost the game because of offensive deficiencies? You sure you didn't mean we didn't have the defensive horses? If so, I agree with your post.

Yes, the biggest mystery in the Pitt fanbase. Scoring 31 offensive points and your offense is bad. Defense gives up 45 points, and your offense is bad....

We have holes on our team that needs to be addressed in recruit. Quality depth in all positions (except RB). Faster LB's, pass rushing DE's, and speed and athleticism in the secondary. I believe we are on our way to taking care of the secondary. On offense, we need big time playmakers on offense. Henderson is all we have right now. I believe Ffrench will help, but we need much more.
 
With our talent level, we are somewhere between a 30-40 team. We still have too many personnel weaknesses to scheme around. I had hoped going into the year the following would occur: Hendrix and Edwards would revitalize the pass rush; the young LBs would make Pitt less reliant on the current starters; freshmen would have plugged the holes in the secondary and WR; and Peterman would take a step forward. None of that has occurred or appears likely. We are more of less the same team as last year.
 
I never said Pitt "was not headed in the right direction". I only said I hated that expression.
Fair enough - I think calling a team improving and headed in the right direction is the same thing, but we can differ.
 
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