Some of you are really not going to like this

[Joe the Panther Fan]

The Athletic polled a beat writer for each of the ACC teams (Chris Carter of the PG was the "Pitt" writer) and asked them who was going to win the ACC and to vote for a five member first team all ACC.

First off, every one of the 15 writers voted for Virginia. Probably not surprising, although it would have been nice to get one vote.

But in the voting for the all ACC team, there were two unanimous selections, Tyree Appleby and Armondo Bacot. The next highest vote total with 12 was Terquavion Smith. Next up with eight was Isaiah Wong. Then Hunter Tyson with seven. Then Kyle Filipowski with six. Then coming in seventh with five votes is our man Jamarius Burton.

Other players who got at least one vote were Reece Beekman, Norchad Omier, Kihei Clark and Jayden Gardner.

 

[BballinsiderfromPitt]

The Athletic polled a beat writer for each of the ACC teams (Chris Carter of the PG was the "Pitt" writer) and asked them who was going to win the ACC and to vote for a five member first team all ACC.

First off, every one of the 15 writers voted for Virginia. Probably not surprising, although it would have been nice to get one vote.

But in the voting for the all ACC team, there were two unanimous selections, Tyree Appleby and Armondo Bacot. The next highest vote total with 12 was Terquavion Smith. Next up with eight was Isaiah Wong. Then Hunter Tyson with seven. Then Kyle Filipowski with six. Then coming in seventh with five votes is our man Jamarius Burton.

Other players who got at least one vote were Reece Beekman, Norchad Omier, Kihei Clark and Jayden Gardner.

That is absurd, on the JB front at least.

 

[pittchagg]

That is absurd, on the JB front at least.

Find something sportswriters love more than falling over themselves to praise a bunch of post players lol

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

That is absurd, on the JB front at least.

I agree. But those are some of the people who will be voting for player of the year and all conference at the end of the season.

I'd love to see it, but as of now Burton isn't even close to player of the year.

 

[DT_PITT]

The Athletic polled a beat writer for each of the ACC teams (Chris Carter of the PG was the "Pitt" writer) and asked them who was going to win the ACC and to vote for a five member first team all ACC.

First off, every one of the 15 writers voted for Virginia. Probably not surprising, although it would have been nice to get one vote.

But in the voting for the all ACC team, there were two unanimous selections, Tyree Appleby and Armondo Bacot. The next highest vote total with 12 was Terquavion Smith. Next up with eight was Isaiah Wong. Then Hunter Tyson with seven. Then Kyle Filipowski with six. Then coming in seventh with five votes is our man Jamarius Burton.

Other players who got at least one vote were Reece Beekman, Norchad Omier, Kihei Clark and Jayden Gardner.

I’m not sure, but the coaches are the ones who vote for the All-ACC teams, yes?

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

I’m not sure, but the coaches are the ones who vote for the All-ACC teams, yes?

Last year it was the coaches and a bunch of media members.

2022 All ACC

"The 2021-22 All-ACC Team was determined by a 78-member panel consisting of the league’s 15 head coaches and 63 members of the media."

 

[Drew1208]

Well this team can keep playing the "disrespect" card.

 

[UPitt '89]

The Athletic polled a beat writer for each of the ACC teams (Chris Carter of the PG was the "Pitt" writer) and asked them who was going to win the ACC and to vote for a five member first team all ACC.

First off, every one of the 15 writers voted for Virginia. Probably not surprising, although it would have been nice to get one vote.

But in the voting for the all ACC team, there were two unanimous selections, Tyree Appleby and Armondo Bacot. The next highest vote total with 12 was Terquavion Smith. Next up with eight was Isaiah Wong. Then Hunter Tyson with seven. Then Kyle Filipowski with six. Then coming in seventh with five votes is our man Jamarius Burton.

Other players who got at least one vote were Reece Beekman, Norchad Omier, Kihei Clark and Jayden Gardner.

Doesn't bother me.... the awards aren't voted on by these beat writers.

 

[NNFAN]

All I care about is winning the ACC. If we do, everything else will fall into place.

 

[Vader_Storm]

The Athletic polled a beat writer for each of the ACC teams (Chris Carter of the PG was the "Pitt" writer) and asked them who was going to win the ACC and to vote for a five member first team all ACC.

First off, every one of the 15 writers voted for Virginia. Probably not surprising, although it would have been nice to get one vote.

But in the voting for the all ACC team, there were two unanimous selections, Tyree Appleby and Armondo Bacot. The next highest vote total with 12 was Terquavion Smith. Next up with eight was Isaiah Wong. Then Hunter Tyson with seven. Then Kyle Filipowski with six. Then coming in seventh with five votes is our man Jamarius Burton.

Other players who got at least one vote were Reece Beekman, Norchad Omier, Kihei Clark and Jayden Gardner.

Could you post their preseason ranking / predictions?


These were mine preseason that I posted on this forum as goals for this team and for Jeff Capel to keep his job.


1) Keep the 3 man class and sign them, especially Carrington. Mission accomplished

2) Challenge to Win 20 games. This will be mission accomplished.

3) Be in line to make the NCAA Tournament or at least be on the bubble. Mission accomplished.

This is what I said in bold on December 10th of last year when some people thought I was crazy. And the link is below.



"Any half decent legit power 6 team with an actual pulse and a half decent coach would absolutely clean up on a schedule like we have a head of us and stock pile some wins. And should we get a major talent in Dior back, it should be even easier to beat these teams. 10 wins is what Torvik currently predicts. That to me should be the bare minimum if Capel can actually Coach assuming no more injuries or team issues"

Sacred Heart Game & Other Dribbles ...

** It would seem to me that 11 games into the 2022-2023 campaign, and well into Capel’s fifth year as Head Coach, that for most of the most die-hard Pitt Hoops fans, the Panthers have become a tiresome, if not tedious exercise in perspective. ** Let’s start a game ago at Vanderbilt. On it’s...

pittsburgh.forums.rivals.com

Im going to update this with new goals starting today


1) Win the Acc regular season and prove every coach, analyst, beat writer, poll voter, fan wrong. That should be enough satisfaction for Burton not being mentioned for POY by random beat writers.

2) Make a Run in the ACC Tournament

3) Win at least 1 game in the NCAA Tournament

4) Keep Dior and sign Meleek Thomas next year

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

Doesn't bother me.... the awards aren't voted on by these beat writers.

As I pointed out, yes, they are. I wouldn't be surprised if all of the 15 people in this "survey" will also be voting for the end of the year ACC awards.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

Could you post their preseason ranking / predictions?

They didn't poll these people in the preseason to make any rankings or predictions, so no.

 

[UPitt '89]

As I pointed out, yes, they are. I wouldn't be surprised if all of the 15 people in this "survey" will also be voting for the end of the year ACC awards.

15 coaches and 63 media members.

This was 15 media members, not all of which will have a vote.

So more than 80% of the voters for the end of year awards are not represented in this survey.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

15 coaches and 63 media members.

This was 15 media members, not all of which will have a vote.

So more than 80% of the voters for the end of year awards are not represented in this survey.

So you agree, these awards ARE being voted on by these writers.

 

[PittPoker]

The Athletic polled a beat writer for each of the ACC teams (Chris Carter of the PG was the "Pitt" writer) and asked them who was going to win the ACC and to vote for a five member first team all ACC.

First off, every one of the 15 writers voted for Virginia. Probably not surprising, although it would have been nice to get one vote.

But in the voting for the all ACC team, there were two unanimous selections, Tyree Appleby and Armondo Bacot. The next highest vote total with 12 was Terquavion Smith. Next up with eight was Isaiah Wong. Then Hunter Tyson with seven. Then Kyle Filipowski with six. Then coming in seventh with five votes is our man Jamarius Burton.

Other players who got at least one vote were Reece Beekman, Norchad Omier, Kihei Clark and Jayden Gardner.

From the same group probably who aren't voting Pitt in the top 25(except Chris C).

Well pretty disappointing. Guess Burton will be on the All-ACC second team. Wow.

 

[PittPoker]

Could you post their preseason ranking / predictions?


These were mine preseason that I posted on this forum as goals for this team and for Jeff Capel to keep his job.


1) Keep the 3 man class and sign them, especially Carrington. Mission accomplished

2) Challenge to Win 20 games. This will be mission accomplished.

3) Be in line to make the NCAA Tournament or at least be on the bubble. Mission accomplished.

This is what I said in bold on December 10th of last year when some people thought I was crazy. And the link is below.



"Any half decent legit power 6 team with an actual pulse and a half decent coach would absolutely clean up on a schedule like we have a head of us and stock pile some wins. And should we get a major talent in Dior back, it should be even easier to beat these teams. 10 wins is what Torvik currently predicts. That to me should be the bare minimum if Capel can actually Coach assuming no more injuries or team issues"

Sacred Heart Game & Other Dribbles ...

** It would seem to me that 11 games into the 2022-2023 campaign, and well into Capel’s fifth year as Head Coach, that for most of the most die-hard Pitt Hoops fans, the Panthers have become a tiresome, if not tedious exercise in perspective. ** Let’s start a game ago at Vanderbilt. On it’s...

pittsburgh.forums.rivals.com

Im going to update this with new goals starting today


1) Win the Acc regular season and prove every coach, analyst, beat writer, poll voter, fan wrong. That should be enough satisfaction for Burton not being mentioned for POY by random beat writers.

2) Make a Run in the ACC Tournament

3) Win at least 1 game in the NCAA Tournament

4) Keep Dior and sign Meleek Thomas next year

Didn't you write during halftime of the Alabama State game that Pitt had to be point shaving and you've seen enough, fire Capel?

 

[Vader_Storm]

From the same group probably who aren't voting Pitt in the top 25(except Chris C).

Well pretty disappointing. Guess Burton will be on the All-ACC second team. Wow.

I firmly believe that a lot of people "think" Pitt is going to collapse to finish the season out. And when I mean a lot people, I mean bracketologists, fans, coaches, beat writers, poll voters etc..

 

[DT_PITT]

Last year it was the coaches and a bunch of media members.

2022 All ACC

"The 2021-22 All-ACC Team was determined by a 78-member panel consisting of the league’s 15 head coaches and 63 members of the media."

Ok - thanks.

 

[Vader_Storm]

Sid

Didn't you write during halftime of the Alabama State game that Pitt had to be point shaving and you've seen enough, fire Capel?

At that junction, yea, I said that. We were getting blown out by one of the worst teams in D1 basketball on our home floor going into halftime. It was also the worst half of basketball I have ever watched from any Pitt team, ever.

 

[UPitt '89]

So you agree, these awards ARE being voted on by these writers.

"these writers" likely represent 10-ish of the 78 voters. They aren't going to be deciding the winners.

 

[bayardstreet]

We are realizing the effects of being in a waste land for 7 years. Sad but true. Win a few more games and make the tournament and then beat a good team in the first round.

 

[Franb]

Last year it was the coaches and a bunch of media members.

2022 All ACC

"The 2021-22 All-ACC Team was determined by a 78-member panel consisting of the league’s 15 head coaches and 63 members of the media."

It takes 78 people to pick an all-conference team - WOW!

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

"these writers" likely represent 10-ish of the 78 voters. They aren't going to be deciding the winners.

Just out of curiosity, if you don't think that the team beat writers are going to be voting for the awards just who do you think does have a vote?

There's still the better part of three weeks to go and things will change, but if you really think that what the guys who are following the teams on a daily basis are currently thinking doesn't matter, well, I guess you are going to be one of those people who is shocked when Burton doesn't win Player of the Year.

 

[Drew1208]

We don't need a P.O.Y.
We got the ACC team of the year!

Stuff that up their asses

 

[Bethlehemjohn]

That is absurd, on the JB front at least.

It is absurd, but he is more likely to be on the 2nd team than to be player of the year. Too many of these idiots don’t even watch games.

 

[Jeffburgh]

The Athletic polled a beat writer for each of the ACC teams (Chris Carter of the PG was the "Pitt" writer) and asked them who was going to win the ACC and to vote for a five member first team all ACC.

First off, every one of the 15 writers voted for Virginia. Probably not surprising, although it would have been nice to get one vote.

But in the voting for the all ACC team, there were two unanimous selections, Tyree Appleby and Armondo Bacot. The next highest vote total with 12 was Terquavion Smith. Next up with eight was Isaiah Wong. Then Hunter Tyson with seven. Then Kyle Filipowski with six. Then coming in seventh with five votes is our man Jamarius Burton.

Other players who got at least one vote were Reece Beekman, Norchad Omier, Kihei Clark and Jayden Gardner.

Forward this to JB and the rest of the team ...

 

[Jeffburgh]

All I care about is winning the ACC. If we do, everything else will fall into place.

YEP.

 

[Pitt79]

We are realizing the effects of being in a waste land for 7 years. Sad but true. Win a few more games and make the tournament and then beat a good team in the first round.

True, these "voters" are lazy, they aren't watching everything, they vote on previous perceptions, they see Pitt and think 11-21 Pitt first.

 

[JS School]

We don't need a P.O.Y.
We got the ACC team of the year!

Stuff that up their asses

I'd rather see 6 Pitt players on the 2nd, 3rd or Honorable Mention teams than have the POY.

Hopefully, any individual awards they receive will be looked at as mere icing on the cake when the season is over.

 

[The Ole Six-Fiver]

Much like rankings, the acknowledgment of top players will be haunted by the sins of the ghosts of the past decade. Remember many voters are idiots like Ron Cook who are lazy, biased and dull witted. Use the disrespect to keep the chip on the shoulder and just keep winning.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

True, these "voters" are lazy, they aren't watching everything, they vote on previous perceptions, they see Pitt and think 11-21 Pitt first.

Unlike Pitt fans, who don't just watch, they scrutinize every game that every team in the conference plays.