Starting lineup/bench as of today

[TheWerewolfFromTwilight]

In its most simple form (I realize guys can play multiple positions) is this about accurate?

Minor/_____
Cummings/Witherspoon
Dunning/Indrusaitis
________/__________
Jackson/Corhen

Deep bench: Ndiaye


(Edited to swap a few positions)

 

[NCanton Panther]

I guess what your saying is…..we ain’t done in the portal yet…..by a long shot.

 

[TheWerewolfFromTwilight]

I guess what your saying is…..we ain’t done in the portal yet…..by a long shot.

No, I would hope not. What's concerning me, however, is the guard position. We usually don't carry many of those. I think Cummings and Minor are going to get a ton of burn, and I'm not thrilled about that. Feels like you need a big-time scorer at the 4 (a la Hinson) if those are your primary guards.

And then, of course, there is the concern about who is left who is a realistic get for us. Hopefully we're not scraping too deep in the barrel. As bad as we've been as a program, I don't know if there have been many recent seasons where we haven't had at least 1 or 2 guys who were among the top 75-100 in college basketball (Champagnie, Gueye, Hinson, Burton, Bub, Lowe... arguably). Not sure if I see that being the case this season, however.

 

[gary2]

No, I would hope not. What's concerning me, however, is the guard position. We usually don't carry many of those. I think Cummings and Minor are going to get a ton of burn, and I'm not thrilled about that. Feels like you need a big-time scorer at the 4 (a la Hinson) if those are your primary guards.

And then, of course, there is the concern about who is left who is a realistic get for us. Hopefully we're not scraping too deep in the barrel. As bad as we've been as a program, I don't know if there have been many recent seasons where we haven't had at least 1 or 2 guys who were among the top 75-100 in college basketball (Champagnie, Gueye, Hinson, Burton, Bub, Lowe... arguably). Not sure if I see that being the case this season, however.

Guys mentioned are Nick Dorn and Chase Forte

The new GM has also added a host of twitter follows after taking this job. A number of foreign players listed.

 

[Pitt666]

You have three starters so far:
Jackson
Corhen
Cummings

A lot of fans dislike Corhen, but the reality is he will start/have starter minutes.

The rest are bench:
Dunning likely Austin replacement
Minor not as good as Ish and if he starts a long season incoming

Deep reserves
Nojus will not see any significant minutes
Witherspoon no idea if he follows the path of Bub/lowe/cummings or Barnes freshman route
Ndiaye

 

[gary2]

In its most simple form (I realize guys can play multiple positions) is this about accurate? Or maybe Witherspoon and Indrusaitis need moved to the 2 and 3, respectively...?

Cummings/Witherspoon
Minor/Indrusaitis
Dunning
________
Jackson/Corhen

Deep bench: Ndiaye

Minor is a point.

 

[TheWerewolfFromTwilight]

You have three starters so far:
Jackson
Corhen
Cummings

A lot of fans dislike Corhen, but the reality is he will start/have starter minutes.

The rest are bench:
Dunning likely Austin replacement
Minor not as good as Ish and if he starts a long season incoming

Deep reserves
Nojus will not see any significant minutes
Witherspoon no idea if he follows the path of Bub/lowe/cummings or Barnes freshman route
Ndiaye

See, I don't know if I agree with that.

1) I don't see Capel rolling with Corhen and Jackson both in the starting lineup. That's not conducive to the style of basketball he likes to play. I think they split minutes at the 5 and then they overlap maybe five minutes per game at the most.

2) Dunning is a starter, in my opinion. Hell, he might (read: MIGHT) be the best player on the team. He's the highest rated transfer we'll probably bring in (well, he and Jackson are both around 100ish).

3) Like I said in another thread, I can't see Minor coming here to be a reserve. The guy has played 32+ minutes/game in each of his first three seasons. I'd be thrilled if he were merely filling a reserve role, but I can't imagine him being content with that (could be wrong).

 

[gary2]

I expect Minor to be used exclusively at PG, play 30+ minutes and be an improvement over last year.

Cummings split between the 2 and the 1
Indursaitis split between the 2 and 3
Dunning between 3 and 4
Corhen between 4 and 5.
Jackson exclusive 5. We need to add a good backup here.

Names prominently mentioned Dorn, Forte, Lillian and Riuelpa.

We might see a JCT or a Divison Two added.

 

[TheWerewolfFromTwilight]

Minor is a point.

Is he? People were saying he's a SG in the other thread, but they could have just been going off an inaccurate profile of him (for instance, his 247 profile has him listed as a SG). I feel a little better knowing he's a point, because that puts less of an onus on Cummings.

 

[gary2]

Is he? People were saying he's a SG in the other thread, but they could have just been going off an inaccurate profile of him (for instance, his 247 profile has him listed as a SG).

167 assists 72 turnovers last season - .835 FT%

 

[TheWerewolfFromTwilight]

167 assists 72 turnovers last season - .835 FT%

Seems remarkably similar to the season Lowe just had, except he took 5.5 less attempts/game.

Jalan Lowe:

16.8 ppg, 37.6% FG, 26.6% 3P, 5.5 APG, 88.6% FT

Damarco Minor:

9.8 ppg, 39.7% FG, 28.2% 3P, 5.1 APG, 83.5% FT

 

[Pitt666]

Prpg! last year was 3.8 for Lowe, 3.4 for Ish, 2.9 for Corhen, 2.7 for Austin, 2.6 for Jackson, 2.6 for dunning, and 2.2 for Minor. Minor is a huge drop off versus Lowe and ish. Dunning is far from most talented on team. Doing average in the WCC and sunbelt is meaningless. Corhen will get starter minutes. Jackson is a solid add.

 

[gary2]

Seems remarkably similar to the season Lowe just had, except he took 5.5 less attempts/game.

Jalan Lowe:

16.8 ppg, 37.6% FG, 26.6% 3P, 5.5 APG, 88.6% FT

Damarco Minor:

9.8 ppg, 39.7% FG, 28.2% 3P, 5.1 APG, 83.5% FT

He will shoot less than Lowe. He will turn the ball over less than Lowe.

He is a better defender than Lowe.

All positives.

 

[TheWerewolfFromTwilight]

Prpg! last year was 3.8 for Lowe, 3.4 for Ish, 2.9 for Corhen, 2.7 for Austin, 2.6 for Jackson, 2.6 for dunning, and 2.2 for Minor. Minor is a huge drop off versus Lowe and ish. Dunning is far from most talented on team. Doing average in the WCC and sunbelt is meaningless. Corhen will get starter minutes.

Oh I have zero doubt that he's a drop-off. If he weren't, he'd be the one heading to Kentucky.

I'm just saying that his offensive stats seem very similar to the ones Lowe just put up, minus the shot attempts (5.6 less field goal attempts per game and 3 less free throws per game).

Actually - on second thought, given both of their relative inefficiencies - maybe the dude who shoots less is more valuable. Especially if he can defend better.

But I don't think Lowe was playing at his ceiling last season, due to the general ineptitude of the lineup.

 

[gary2]

Oh I have zero doubt that he's a drop-off. If he weren't, he'd be the one heading to Kentucky.

I'm just saying that his offensive stats seem very similar to the ones Lowe just put up, minus the shot attempts (5.6 less field goal attempts per game and 3 less free throws per game).

Actually - on second thought, given both of their relative inefficiencies - maybe the dude who shoots less is more valuable. Especially if he can defend better.

But I don't think Lowe was playing at his ceiling last season, due to the general ineptitude of the lineup.

Actually just looked at DBPR. Lowe very slightly better.

 

[pittchagg]

Minor at PG, Dunning at wing, and Jackson at center feel about as locked in to be starters as you can get.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

In its most simple form (I realize guys can play multiple positions) is this about accurate? Or maybe Witherspoon and Indrusaitis need moved to the 2 and 3, respectively...?

Cummings/Witherspoon
Minor/Indrusaitis
Dunning
________
Jackson/Corhen

Deep bench: Ndiaye

PG - Minor
SG - Cummings
SF - Indrusaitis/Witherspoon
PF - Corhen/Dunning
C - Jackson/Corhen

3 starting positions are locked up with Minor, Cummings, and Jackson. Right now, Corhen and Dunning will compete for the starting PF spot. The starting SF spot is open as it's pretty unlikely that we'll start such a young player there. So that's next on the list. Need a starting 3, another backup guard, and another backup big.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

See, I don't know if I agree with that.

1) I don't see Capel rolling with Corhen and Jackson both in the starting lineup. That's not conducive to the style of basketball he likes to play. I think they split minutes at the 5 and then they overlap maybe five minutes per game at the most.

2) Dunning is a starter, in my opinion. Hell, he might (read: MIGHT) be the best player on the team. He's the highest rated transfer we'll probably bring in (well, he and Jackson are both around 100ish).

3) Like I said in another thread, I can't see Minor coming here to be a reserve. The guy has played 32+ minutes/game in each of his first three seasons. I'd be thrilled if he were merely filling a reserve role, but I can't imagine him being content with that (could be wrong).

Jackson and Corhen are going to play together a good bit. Jackson is getting big money. They aren't paying him to play 20 minutes. And Corhen wasn't staying to play 10-20 minutes.

 

[TheWerewolfFromTwilight]

PG - Minor
SG - Cummings
SF - Indrusaitis/Witherspoon
PF - Corhen/Dunning
C - Jackson/Corhen

3 starting positions are locked up with Minor, Cummings, and Jackson. Right now, Corhen and Dunning will compete for the starting PF spot. The starting SF spot is open as it's pretty unlikely that we'll start such a young player there. So that's next on the list. Need a starting 3, another backup guard, and another backup big.

I would say Dunning is locked in at the 3 (I'm sure he'll also play the 4, as Austin did when they went small), and probably more of a sure thing to start than Cummings.

 

[TheWerewolfFromTwilight]

Jackson and Corhen are going to play together a good bit. Jackson is getting big money. They aren't paying him to play 20 minutes. And Corhen wasn't staying to play 10-20 minutes.

I'm optimistic that Corhen might still hit the portal. I don't see how in the world two bigs who can't shoot clogging up the paint could possibly a good thing. Especially with a PG who shoots a lower % from three than some do from half court. That'd be a unique strategy for Capel to employ during his final season here.

 

[Bethlehemjohn]

You have three starters so far:
Jackson
Corhen
Cummings

A lot of fans dislike Corhen, but the reality is he will start/have starter minutes.

The rest are bench:
Dunning likely Austin replacement
Minor not as good as Ish and if he starts a long season incoming

Deep reserves
Nojus will not see any significant minutes
Witherspoon no idea if he follows the path of Bub/lowe/cummings or Barnes freshman route
Ndiaye

Both Corhen and Jackson should not start together.

And as stated before, Minor is a PG.

He and Cummings will start at guard, with Dunning at 3 or 4 and then the combo of Jackson/Corhen at the 5. We need a good rebounding and shooting 3/4.

 

[TheWerewolfFromTwilight]

Both Corhen and Jackson should not start together.

And as stated before, Minor is a PG.

He and Cummings will start at guard, with Dunning at 3 or 4 and then the combo of Jackson/Corhen at the 5. We need a good rebounding and shooting 3/4.

This I agree with, with the addendum that I would also love to recruit another guard who could potentially push Cummings to a 6th man role (or at least create a competition).

 

[pittchagg]

This I agree with, with the addendum that I would also love to recruit another guard who could potentially push Cummings to a 6th man role (or at least create a competition).

I think the best combination with the pieces currently assembled is to bring in some sort of bigger shooter to start at the 2 and allow Cummings to cook as a wired-to-score sixth man. And then a bigger wing to start at the 4 who can ideally be a bit more of a threat at the perimeter than what Corhen would give you at that spot. Those five, plus Cummings, Corhen as the primary backup center who can also play as a jumbo 4 in certain matchups, and Nojus would be a solid eight man rotation that you can win games with.

 

[Pittisit4me]

I'm optimistic that Corhen might still hit the portal. I don't see how in the world two bigs who can't shoot clogging up the paint could possibly a good thing. Especially with a PG who shoots a lower % from three than some do from half court. That'd be a unique strategy for Capel to employ during his final season here.

If Corhen is still here and playing more than 5 or 10 minutes we are doomed. I can't take another year of a soft and clueless post player. He cannot defend and rebound because, quite honestly, he is too stupid. I thought all year that he was lazy and didn't give the effort. However, after watching him more closely the last few games, I realized he just has no aptitude for the game. I don't think anyone wants a post player who can't defend or rebound. Therefore, I expect him to be here and I expect a dismal season which will spell the end of Capel.

 

[TheWerewolfFromTwilight]

I think the best combination with the pieces currently assembled is to bring in some sort of bigger shooter to start at the 2 and allow Cummings to cook as a wired-to-score sixth man. And then a bigger wing to start at the 4 who can ideally be a bit more of a threat at the perimeter than what Corhen would give you at that spot. Those five, plus Cummings, Corhen as the primary backup center who can also play as a jumbo 4 in certain matchups, and Nojus would be a solid eight man rotation that you can win games with.

This would be my ideal realistic scenario as well. Jackson and Dunning probably aren't studs by any means, but they're better than what I feared we might be attracting in the portal. To spend money on them but then leave glaring holes elsewhere would feel like only buying two new tires for a vehicle.

We're two additions away from at least having a chance to be a bubble team, in my opinion. Anything less than a starting stretch 4 and another quality guard and we might as well just start negotiating the buyout now.

 

[Islanderpanther]

If Corhen is still here and playing more than 5 or 10 minutes we are doomed. I can't take another year of a soft and clueless post player. He cannot defend and rebound because, quite honestly, he is too stupid. I thought all year that he was lazy and didn't give the effort. However, after watching him more closely the last few games, I realized he just has no aptitude for the game. I don't think anyone wants a post player who can't defend or rebound. Therefore, I expect him to be here and I expect a dismal season which will spell the end of Capel.

If he stays, he’s absolutely guaranteed to play more than 10 minutes per game…bank on it.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

If he stays, he’s absolutely guaranteed to play more than 10 minutes per game…bank on it.

Corhen and Jackson are going to play together a lot. There's just no getting around that. I know people want to believe Corhen will transfer or be a deep bench guy but he isnt coming back to play 10 MPG. Jackson is a "premium" transfer and will play as much as possible. They aren't sharing only 40 minutes.

 

[TheWerewolfFromTwilight]

Corhen and Jackson are going to play together a lot. There's just no getting around that. I know people want to believe Corhen will transfer or be a deep bench guy but he isnt coming back to play 10 MPG. Jackson is a "premium" transfer and will play as much as possible. They aren't sharing only 40 minutes.

Random game where no one is in foul trouble:

Jackson - 26
Corhen - 14/7

They certainly don't need to be on the court together longer than that.

 

[BTisinDC]

I expect Minor to be used exclusively at PG, play 30+ minutes and be an improvement over last year.

Cummings split between the 2 and the 1
Indursaitis split between the 2 and 3
Dunning between 3 and 4
Corhen between 4 and 5.
Jackson exclusive 5. We need to add a good backup here.

Names prominently mentioned Dorn, Forte, Lillian and Riuelpa.

We might see a JCT or a Divison Two added.

Who's Lillian?

 

[Pitt666]

I'm optimistic that Corhen might still hit the portal. I don't see how in the world two bigs who can't shoot clogging up the paint could possibly a good thing. Especially with a PG who shoots a lower % from three than some do from half court. That'd be a unique strategy for Capel to employ during his final season here.

Shooting stats from last 10 games:
Corhen: 52/80 65%
Jackson: 28/46 61%
Fede: 14/17 82%
GDG: 23/57 40%
Cummings: 20/65 31%
Minor: 32/81 40%
Lowe: 50/138 36%
Ish: 47/121 39%
Austin: 29/75 39%
Dunning: 80/154=52%

It is clear that Corhen was no Fede on offense and was the sole reason this team sucked. He needs to transfer ASAP to his poor offensive skills. He has no place on this team nor should he ever get the ball offensively if he plays next year. The lottery ticket is how does Dunnings game translate to ACC. They still need guards. Corhen isn’t the issue. He has his flaws but the guards cost this team.

 

[FireballZ]

Shooting stats from last 10 games:
Corhen: 52/80 65%
Jackson: 28/46 61%
Fede: 14/17 82%
GDG: 23/57 40%
Cummings: 20/65 31%
Minor: 32/81 40%
Lowe: 50/138 36%
Ish: 47/121 39%
Austin: 29/75 39%
Dunning: 80/154=52%

It is clear that Corhen was no Fede on offense and was the sole reason this team sucked. He needs to transfer ASAP to his poor offensive skills. He has no place on this team nor should he ever get the ball offensively if he plays next year. The lottery ticket is how does Dunnings game translate to ACC. They still need guards. Corhen isn’t the issue. He has his flaws but the guards cost this team.

Thanks, Vader. Garbage.

 

[TheWerewolfFromTwilight]

Shooting stats from last 10 games:
Corhen: 52/80 65%
Jackson: 28/46 61%
Fede: 14/17 82%
GDG: 23/57 40%
Cummings: 20/65 31%
Minor: 32/81 40%
Lowe: 50/138 36%
Ish: 47/121 39%
Austin: 29/75 39%
Dunning: 80/154=52%

It is clear that Corhen was no Fede on offense and was the sole reason this team sucked. He needs to transfer ASAP to his poor offensive skills. He has no place on this team nor should he ever get the ball offensively if he plays next year. The lottery ticket is how does Dunnings game translate to ACC. They still need guards. Corhen isn’t the issue. He has his flaws but the guards cost this team.

It's a lot of things. This team couldn't shoot and was way too easy to out-physical. We're two starters (SG and PF) away from me being excited about this upcoming season.

 

[gary2]

Who's Lillian?

 

[Pittisit4me]

If he stays, he’s absolutely guaranteed to play more than 10 minutes per game…bank on it.

I am, that is precisely why I believe it spells the end of Jeff Capel. When you make a personnel mistake, you have to correct it. He has failed to land a capable big his entire tenure here. He probably knows he has no chance of competing with Corhen, but, also realizes he is powerless when it comes to replacing him.

 

[OhioPanther99]

It's a lot of things. This team couldn't shoot and was way too easy to out-physical. We're two starters (SG and PF) away from me being excited about this upcoming season.

I'd love to hear your thoughts on "being excited" for next year.

I'm not saying that I wanted any of the transfer to stay, but Capel has once again lost all of the chemistry and culture.

 

[12162022]

If Corhen is still here and playing more than 5 or 10 minutes we are doomed. I can't take another year of a soft and clueless post player. He cannot defend and rebound because, quite honestly, he is too stupid. I thought all year that he was lazy and didn't give the effort. However, after watching him more closely the last few games, I realized he just has no aptitude for the game. I don't think anyone wants a post player who can't defend or rebound. Therefore, I expect him to be here and I expect a dismal season which will spell the end of Capel.

I think Capel will stay if he has a winning season. Doubt any other school would want him.

 

[Pittisit4me]

I think Capel will stay if he has a winning season. Doubt any other school would want him.

If Corhen is starting post player, Pitt will not be close to having a winning season. 10-12 wins is max. That should send Capel packing!

 

[12162022]

If Corhen is starting post player, Pitt will not be close to having a winning season. 10-12 wins is max. That should send Capel packing!

Can't argue that about Corhen.....butADAG needs to fund a booting.

 

[9782978]

If Corhen is the lynchpin as to whether we have a good or bad season, we are in trouble. We were in the same boat last year with Lowe —- over reliance on a single player who is not a true P4 starter. I hope that we are wrong about Corhen’s true talent level.

 

[PittPharm2002]

Seems remarkably similar to the season Lowe just had, except he took 5.5 less attempts/game.

Jalan Lowe:

16.8 ppg, 37.6% FG, 26.6% 3P, 5.5 APG, 88.6% FT

Damarco Minor:

9.8 ppg, 39.7% FG, 28.2% 3P, 5.1 APG, 83.5% FT

Yep/ it’s a downgrade