Starting lineup/bench as of today

[LeftCoastPanther]

Minor/_____
Cummings/Witherspoon
Dunning/Indrusaitis
________/__________
Jackson/Corhen

Deep bench: Ndiaye, Kante

Is this where Pitt stands today?

 

[HailToPitt1985]

Minor/_____
Cummings/Witherspoon
Dunning/Indrusaitis
________/__________
Jackson/Corhen

Deep bench: Ndiaye, Kante

Is this where Pitt stands today?

When you put it that way, it's pretty bleak. But this is where we are now.

 

[Chescat1]

Here's what I see at this point:
Minor/ Cummings
_________/ Witherspoon
Dunning/ Indrusaitis
Corhen/ ___________
Jackson/ Kante__________
Ndiaye somewhere on the bench

This sure ain't gonna strike fear in the rest of the ACC, but it is a start (a bleak one at that). However,
every one of these present positions needs an upgrade, a MAJOR upgrade if we're gonna compete in
the ACC. Capel needs to recruit over what the above list indicates. We'll see.

 

[gary2]

Here's what I see at this point:
Minor/ Cummings
_________/ Witherspoon
Dunning/ Indrusaitis
Corhen/ ___________
Jackson/ Kante__________
Ndiaye somewhere on the bench

This sure ain't gonna strike fear in the rest of the ACC, but it is a start (a bleak one at that). However,
every one of these present positions needs an upgrade, a MAJOR upgrade if we're gonna compete in
the ACC. Capel needs to recruit over what the above list indicates. We'll see.

Minor/______
Cummings/Witherspoon
-------/ Indrusaitis
Dunning/Kante
Jackson/Corhen

Deep Bench

Ndiaye
------
------

 

[gary2]

Minor/______
Cummings/Witherspoon
-------/ Indrusaitis
Dunning/Kante
Jackson/Corhen

Deep Bench

Ndiaye
------
------

Rotation - Minor, Cummings, ???, Dunning, Jackson - ???, Indrusaitis, Corhen

3rd Guard: Harris, Duckett
SF: ?.??

 

[HailToPitt1985]

Here's what I see at this point:
Minor/ Cummings
_________/ Witherspoon
Dunning/ Indrusaitis
Corhen/ ___________
Jackson/ Kante__________
Ndiaye somewhere on the bench

This sure ain't gonna strike fear in the rest of the ACC, but it is a start (a bleak one at that). However,
every one of these present positions needs an upgrade, a MAJOR upgrade if we're gonna compete in
the ACC. Capel needs to recruit over what the above list indicates. We'll see.

He's going to have to recruit over every one of them and do it now, because most of them won't be here next year, including the underclassmen.

 

[BTisinDC]

Rotation - Minor, Cummings, ???, Dunning, Jackson - ???, Indrusaitis, Corhen

3rd Guard: Harris, Duckett
SF: ?.??

Duckett?

 

[gary2]

Duckett?

Tony Duckett - Men's Basketball - University of San Diego Athletics

Tony Duckett (6) Guard - HIGH SCHOOL Attended Carlsbad High School in nearby Carlsbad, California, where he earned the following accolades: All-Coastal

usdtoreros.com

 

[gary2]

Duckett?

 

[BTisinDC]

Tony Duckett - Men's Basketball - University of San Diego Athletics

Tony Duckett (6) Guard - HIGH SCHOOL Attended Carlsbad High School in nearby Carlsbad, California, where he earned the following accolades: All-Coastal

usdtoreros.com

Pitt offered? Or someone you’d like to see offered?

 

[gary2]

Pitt offered? Or someone you’d like to see offered?

Contact. Do not know if offered.

 

[Pitt666]

In its most simple form (I realize guys can play multiple positions) is this about accurate?

Minor/_____
Cummings/Witherspoon
Dunning/Indrusaitis
________/__________
Jackson/Corhen

Deep bench: Ndiaye


(Edited to swap a few positions)

It’s been two weeks since this was posted and Capel has added Kante back. So you now have

Starters:
Jackson
Corhen
Dunning
Minor
Cummings

Bench:
Kante

I am not counting on the rest to do anything. Looks like a 10 win team, hopefully.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Here's what I see at this point:
Minor/ Cummings
_________/ Witherspoon
Dunning/ Indrusaitis
Corhen/ ___________
Jackson/ Kante__________
Ndiaye somewhere on the bench

This sure ain't gonna strike fear in the rest of the ACC, but it is a start (a bleak one at that). However,
every one of these present positions needs an upgrade, a MAJOR upgrade if we're gonna compete in
the ACC. Capel needs to recruit over what the above list indicates. We'll see.

Minor 32 Cummings 8
Cummings 24 Witherspoon 16
Dunning 20 Indrusaitis 20
Corhen 28 Dunning 12
Jackson 30 Kante 10

9 man rotation. I like our chances to make the ACC Tournament.

 

[Gep Dawg]

Minor 32 Cummings 8
Cummings 24 Witherspoon 16
Dunning 20 Indrusaitis 20
Corhen 28 Dunning 12
Jackson 30 Kante 10

9 man rotation. I like our chances to make the ACC Tournament.

I'm not excited about this team. I don't think anyone is. Watch...they will make the NCAAT because of it. Capel always pulls a rabbit out of his hat when he needs it the most.

 

[Pitt666]

I'm not excited about this team. I don't think anyone is. Watch...they will make the NCAAT because of it. Capel always pulls a rabbit out of his hat when he needs it the most.

You really only need 6 really good/decent players to make a run, but they would need huge steps forward by Cummings and Kante, need Witherspoon to be like Bub, and hit the jackpot with indru.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

I'm not excited about this team. I don't think anyone is. Watch...they will make the NCAAT because of it. Capel always pulls a rabbit out of his hat when he needs it the most.

Nobody is excited but these are all new teams. Essentially, the best 45 teams make the NCAAT. 30 have clinched due to superior coaching/large payrolls for players. So Pitt is competing with schools like WVU and others for those last 15 NCAAT spots. Schools with similar player payrolls. It's not totally impossible that this team ends up being good because you just don't know how they end up being. Who makes a great improvement? Who ends up being great defensively? Does the team gel?

 

[TheWerewolfFromTwilight]

Nobody is excited but these are all new teams. Essentially, the best 45 teams make the NCAAT. 30 have clinched due to superior coaching/large payrolls for players. So Pitt is competing with schools like WVU and others for those last 15 NCAAT spots. Schools with similar player payrolls. It's not totally impossible that this team ends up being good because you just don't know how they end up being. Who makes a great improvement? Who ends up being great defensively? Does the team gel?

At the end of the day, you need good players to win. Yeah, you'll get a Wake Forest or WVU team that punches above its weight class every now and again (of course, not enough to make the tournament), but that "gel" term just seems like fans blissfully pulling the wool over their own eyes.

If we land that #1 player in Australia, which seems to be a real possibility, consider me interested. Could be completely overhyped, but that'll at least give me something to sell myself. If we keep filling out the roster with the player caliber we have been lately, we'll probably finish under .500.

 

[MarshallGoldberg]

At the end of the day, you need good players to win. Yeah, you'll get a Wake Forest or WVU team that punches above its weight class every now and again (of course, not enough to make the tournament), but that "gel" term just seems like fans blissfully pulling the wool over their own eyes.

If we land that #1 player in Australia, which seems to be a real possibility, consider me interested. Could be completely overhyped, but that'll at least give me something to sell myself. If we keep filling out the roster with the player caliber we have been lately, we'll probably finish under .500.

Fwiw PSN's Aussie source said we 100% are signing him. Funny all the NBA draft gurus concerns is he's a true two sport athlete who will go pro in Rugby, which makes me wonder why go to Pitt. But hey it could be a good front court at least.

 

[TheWerewolfFromTwilight]

Fwiw PSN's Aussie source said we 100% are signing him. Funny all the NBA draft gurus concerns is he's a true two sport athlete who will go pro in Rugby, which makes me .wonder why go to Pitt. But hey it could be a good front court at least.

Aussie Troutman

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

At the end of the day, you need good players to win. Yeah, you'll get a Wake Forest or WVU team that punches above its weight class every now and again (of course, not enough to make the tournament), but that "gel" term just seems like fans blissfully pulling the wool over their own eyes.

If we land that #1 player in Australia, which seems to be a real possibility, consider me interested. Could be completely overhyped, but that'll at least give me something to sell myself. If we keep filling out the roster with the player caliber we have been lately, we'll probably finish under .500.

I sort of doubt Siulepa would be anything more than an average ACC player as an 18 year old. Nice to get him. A nice peace. But not a gamechanger.

I'm just saying that there has to be some Wake's, Pitt's, WVU's, Vandy's, Minnesota's that make it. 15 of them to be exact.

30 spots are locked

Final 15 come from a list of about 60 schools.

 

[TheWerewolfFromTwilight]

I sort of doubt Siulepa would be anything more than an average ACC player as an 18 year old. Nice to get him. A nice peace. But not a gamechanger.

I'm just saying that there has to be some Wake's, Pitt's, WVU's, Vandy's, Minnesota's that make it. 15 of them to be exact.

30 spots are locked

Final 15 come from a list of about 60 schools.

I'm talking about the individual player clout though; not the school. Who on this team is "power conference good?" Even last year we had Lowe and Leggett to build around (or so we thought, I guess).

Our NCAA run a few years ago was probably about as random as it gets, but even then we had Burton returning. Like has a team with such little returning power conference production, in conjunction with no top 100 recruits or top 100ish transfers, ever made the tournament?

We've seen plenty of teams with multiple stars not gel. But do poorly-coached teams with no studs typically gel into some magical homogeneous mixture that is significantly greater than the sum of its parts? I don't think so.

 

[9782978]

Corhen bashing aside, does current roster have even a remote chance of going .500 in the watered down ACC? Hum-hah.

 

[BTisinDC]

Corhen bashing aside, does current roster have even a remote chance of going .500 in the watered down ACC? Hum-hah.

Yes

 

[TheWerewolfFromTwilight]

Corhen bashing aside, does current roster have even a remote chance of going .500 in the watered down ACC? Hum-hah.

Absolutely not, in my opinion. Not the current ensemble. Guard play is way too weak, and, like a fallen angel, they're a wing short.

 

[BTisinDC]

Absolutely not, in my opinion. Not the current ensemble. Guard play is way too weak, and, like a fallen angel, they're a wing short.

I don’t think you’re giving enough credit to how bad the rest of the ACC is. Tourney good, no, but .500 in this league, definitely a chance.

 

[TheWerewolfFromTwilight]

I don’t think you’re giving enough credit to how bad the rest of the ACC is. Tourney good, no, but .500 in this league, definitely a chance.

We just went 8-12 with what was supposed to be one of the best backcourts in the league.

 

[BTisinDC]

We just went 8-12 with what was supposed to be one of the best backcourts in the league.

I hear ya, but I believe the league as a whole is expected to be worse next year, so I’m saying there’s a chance.

 

[Chescat1]

I hear ya, but I believe the league as a whole is expected to be worse next year, so I’m saying there’s a chance.

True about the ACC, no longer the powerhouse conference of the past. It's been that way for
quite awhile. Capel has gotten us out of the basement, but it took several yrs. As for this year, I'm
afraid it's easily worse than the last three years. Above 500 in the ACC is a real stretch with what
I see coming in here for this coming season. Capel has not been able to make the portal work
for him. My sense is he's hampered by limited NIL $$$$. We can blame whomever or whatever
we want, but IMO we ain't going over 500 in the ACC unless Capel suddeny lands a few, better
than what we have now out of the portal. I have my doubts about that happening at this point.

 

[AllegeneeGenacGenac]

I hear ya, but I believe the league as a whole is expected to be worse next year, so I’m saying there’s a chance.

Hubert Davis can only back the talent at UNC so much, Louisville should be stronger than last year, NCST and UVA will be improved, I don't see how Miami is as bad as they were last year again, and GA Tech seems to be on an upswing. Duke is going to reload, and Clemson and SMU should be solid. I expect BC to be terrible and the CA schools to be mediocre at best, with the rest of the league (including us) muddling along.

The only teams I expect to regress are FSU and maybe Wake, with them still in the sea of mediocrity that makes up most of the league.

Torvik appears to be projecting a significant improvement for next year.

I don't think it's going to remind anyone of the mid-2000s Big East, but where are you getting that the league as a whole will be worse?

 

[TheWerewolfFromTwilight]

Hubert Davis can only back the talent at UNC so much, Louisville should be stronger than last year, NCST and UVA will be improved, I don't see how Miami is as bad as they were last year again, and GA Tech seems to be on an upswing. Duke is going to reload, and Clemson and SMU should be solid. I expect BC to be terrible and the CA schools to be mediocre at best, with the rest of the league (including us) muddling along.

The only teams I expect to regress are FSU and maybe Wake, with them still in the sea of mediocrity that makes up most of the league.

Torvik appears to be projecting a significant improvement for next year.

I don't think it's going to remind anyone of the mid-2000s Big East, but where are you getting that the league as a whole will be worse?

Capel kind of takes the guesswork out of it for anyone wondering if an incoming Pitt team is going to somehow magically exceed the sum of its parts. It's not. So if there isn't a good bit of talent, well...

I mean, where would we project each guy in the starting lineup, assuming 5/10 is the ACC starter average grade for each position?

Minor - 3.5/10
Cummings - 4/10
Dunning - 5/10 (no idea, but I'm being generous)
Corhen - 4.5/10
Jackson - 6/10

Is that wrong? Not sure.

 

[Thee Jackie Treehorn]

We just went 8-12 with what was supposed to be one of the best backcourts in the league.

Exactly. Heading into January, some people were projecting ACC records of 16-4, 17-3, ridiculous stuff like that. With what we've seen so far on this roster, even in a pretty weak ACC, I have a hard time projecting an above .500 ACC record right now.

 

[FireballZ]

Exactly. Heading into January, some people were projecting ACC records of 16-4, 17-3, ridiculous stuff like that. With what we've seen so far on this roster, even in a pretty weak ACC, I have a hard time projecting an above .500 ACC record right now.

I have a hard time seeing a .500 OVERALL record. Forget the ACC.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Corhen bashing aside, does current roster have even a remote chance of going .500 in the watered down ACC? Hum-hah.

Yes, we have at least a "remote chance" of .500 in the ACC. It's a bad league. We could go 9-9. Probably something like 6-12 though

 

[MarshallGoldberg]

I don't think we have an ACC .500 roster at this point. It's not done yet though. My optimism has dimmed year after year but it hasn't gone to diminish in the west fully yet.

 

[TheWerewolfFromTwilight]

I don't think we have an ACC .500 roster at this point. It's not done yet though. My optimism has dimmed year after year but it hasn't gone to diminish in the west fully yet.

I would venture to guess we project to have something close to the worst backcourt in the ACC right now. If we add a combo guard who is of a similar caliber to like a Dunning, relative to his position, that would go a long way in igniting some optimism for me. Nothing against Cummings, but a starting role for him would feel like it was at least a year ahead of what his timeline should be.

 

[Pitt666]

Exactly. Heading into January, some people were projecting ACC records of 16-4, 17-3, ridiculous stuff like that. With what we've seen so far on this roster, even in a pretty weak ACC, I have a hard time projecting an above .500 ACC record right now.

I mean at the time, Pitt did have a top ten net, a blowout of WVU who beat Gonzaga, a road win at Ohio State, neutral win against LSU and a loss to undefeated Wisky.