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I know the real hockey heads will be indignant with this comment, and have a gazillion reasons to explain why I'm wrong, but I'll say it anyways...

Why the hell don't the players where full face masks? It's just plain stupid not to. Bonnino got hit in the face last night and had to come out for awhile. A guy for CBJ got really jacked up bad, they say he's done for the year. What logical reason is there to not protect your face? That one year Crosby got really messed up with a puck to the mouth, and missed like 30 games. I don't care if they want to act tough, but if it causes them to miss games, yeah I don't like it. Both these guys last night with a facemask are just stunned, play on, now the CBJ guy is done for the year! For what? I'd be pissed if it Crosby that would go out for the year right now and it's easily prevented.
 
Pitt79 said:
I know the real hockey heads will be indignant with this comment, and have a gazillion reasons to explain why I'm wrong, but I'll say it anyways...

Why the hell don't the players where full face masks? It's just plain stupid not to. Bonnino got hit in the face last night and had to come out for awhile. A guy for CBJ got really jacked up bad, they say he's done for the year. What logical reason is there to not protect your face? That one year Crosby got really messed up with a puck to the mouth, and missed like 30 games. I don't care if they want to act tough, but if it causes them to miss games, yeah I don't like it. Both these guys last night with a facemask are just stunned, play on, now the CBJ guy is done for the year! For what? I'd be pissed if it Crosby that would go out for the year right now and it's easily prevented.
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It is coming. Like everything else. That was a gruesome injury. Sid did in fact get something like that a few years back. Imagine this......up until the late 60's, goalies didn't wear masks. Can you imagine that?
 
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Pitt79 said:
I know the real hockey heads will be indignant with this comment, and have a gazillion reasons to explain why I'm wrong, but I'll say it anyways...

Why the hell don't the players where full face masks? It's just plain stupid not to. Bonnino got hit in the face last night and had to come out for awhile. A guy for CBJ got really jacked up bad, they say he's done for the year. What logical reason is there to not protect your face? That one year Crosby got really messed up with a puck to the mouth, and missed like 30 games. I don't care if they want to act tough, but if it causes them to miss games, yeah I don't like it. Both these guys last night with a facemask are just stunned, play on, now the CBJ guy is done for the year! For what? I'd be pissed if it Crosby that would go out for the year right now and it's easily prevented.
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Because Eddie Shore would not, that is why...old time hockey, eh
 
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I've never played hockey so I can't answer that, but if I did, I'd want to wear a full mask.

I think it's slowly coming. Helmets became mandatory in the 1980s and now visors are mandatory for everyone coming into the league I think starting last year.
 
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ThePanthers said:
I've never played hockey so I can't answer that, but if I did, I'd want to wear a full mask.

I think it's slowly coming. Helmets became mandatory in the 1980s and now visors are mandatory for everyone coming into the league I think starting last year.
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McTavish! I always remember this 40+ year old guy named McTavish that the last grandfathered in non-helmet wearer in the '90s. LOL.
 
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recruitsreadtheseboards said:
It is coming. Like everything else. That was a gruesome injury. Sid did in fact get something like that a few years back. Imagine this......up until the late 60's, goalies didn't wear masks. Can you imagine that?
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I flinch when my 5 year old swings his bat and hits a whiffle ball back to me, cant imagine my flinching if I was in net, facing an 85mph slaphsot.
 
Pitt79 said:
I know the real hockey heads will be indignant with this comment, and have a gazillion reasons to explain why I'm wrong, but I'll say it anyways...

Why the hell don't the players where full face masks? It's just plain stupid not to. Bonnino got hit in the face last night and had to come out for awhile. A guy for CBJ got really jacked up bad, they say he's done for the year. What logical reason is there to not protect your face? That one year Crosby got really messed up with a puck to the mouth, and missed like 30 games. I don't care if they want to act tough, but if it causes them to miss games, yeah I don't like it. Both these guys last night with a facemask are just stunned, play on, now the CBJ guy is done for the year! For what? I'd be pissed if it Crosby that would go out for the year right now and it's easily prevented.
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The answer would be the wire cages but the players claim it impedes their vision. So what are you going to do.It took them till the 50s for the goalies to start wearing primitive face masks.
 
Pitt79 said:
McTavish! I always remember this 40+ year old guy named McTavish that the last grandfathered in non-helmet wearer in the '90s. LOL.
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Yeah, it took a long time for everybody to be wearing helmets with the Grandfather rule. Some guys like Guy LaFleur wouldn't wear one because they liked how their hair blew in the breeze.
 
Pitt79 said:
I know the real hockey heads will be indignant with this comment, and have a gazillion reasons to explain why I'm wrong, but I'll say it anyways...

Why the hell don't the players where full face masks? It's just plain stupid not to. Bonnino got hit in the face last night and had to come out for awhile. A guy for CBJ got really jacked up bad, they say he's done for the year. What logical reason is there to not protect your face? That one year Crosby got really messed up with a puck to the mouth, and missed like 30 games. I don't care if they want to act tough, but if it causes them to miss games, yeah I don't like it. Both these guys last night with a facemask are just stunned, play on, now the CBJ guy is done for the year! For what? I'd be pissed if it Crosby that would go out for the year right now and it's easily prevented.
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In the days prior to the Pens, when we had the Hornets, they wore no head protection. That included the goalies. Our star goalie, Baz Bastein ( sp ) took one to the face and lost an eye. Some players started wearing head protection on the ice, but not all. But those guys retired and they all started to wear protection. HTP
 
recruitsreadtheseboards said:
It is coming. Like everything else. That was a gruesome injury. Sid did in fact get something like that a few years back. Imagine this......up until the late 60's, goalies didn't wear masks. Can you imagine that?
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I'm old. I remember those days and then when Jacques Plante for the Canadiens became the first goalie to wear a mask.

Only 6 teams then--Canadiens, Maple Leafs, Bruins, Rangers, Red Wings and Black Hawks. Canadiens dominated like the Yankees in baseball.
 
Within 10 years full face guards will be mandatory. It takes the old meatheads who control hockey a while to adapt.

Hopefully most will be dead in the next 25 years and Hockey will become the game it should be.
 
Gunga_Galunga said:
Within 10 years full face guards will be mandatory. It takes the old meatheads who control hockey a while to adapt.

Hopefully most will be dead in the next 25 years and Hockey will become the game it should be.
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Hockey will become the game it should be. I.e. hockey that it has not been for 100 years. Soccer on ice. Can orange slices and juice boxes be that far behind?
 
DC_Area_Panther said:
I'm old. I remember those days and then when Jacques Plante for the Canadiens became the first goalie to wear a mask.

Only 6 teams then--Canadiens, Maple Leafs, Bruins, Rangers, Red Wings and Black Hawks. Canadiens dominated like the Yankees in baseball.
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The story goes that Plante, who was the premier goalie of the era was experimenting with the mask in practice but was forbidden by the team to wear it in a game. One day Plante took one in the face and had to go to the dressing room for stitches and refused to ever play again without wearing the mask. The Habs had no choice but to relent.

I think Gump Worsley was the last goalie to play without a mask.
 
wbrpanther said:
The story goes that Plante, who was the premier goalie of the era was experimenting with the mask in practice but was forbidden by the team to wear it in a game. One day Plante took one in the face and had to go to the dressing room for stitches and refused to ever play again without wearing the mask. The Habs had no choice but to relent.

I think Gump Worsley was the last goalie to play without a mask.
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Nobody names their kids Gump or Jacques anymore.
 
pittdan77 said:
It's a sport where great minds disagree whether a guy should be suspended or not for breaking his stick over another guy's neck. Why a puck to the face would bother anyone is simply nonsense.
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Plus coming out and saying it was only a one game suspension because Kuhnackle wasn't hurt very badly. That is as Cro-Mag as it gets.
 
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upj87 said:
Hockey will become the game it should be. I.e. hockey that it has not been for 100 years. Soccer on ice. Can orange slices and juice boxes be that far behind?
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They get orange slices and juice boxes in little kids hockey leagues don't they?
 
pittdan77 said:
It's a sport where great minds disagree whether a guy should be suspended or not for breaking his stick over another guy's neck. Why a puck to the face would bother anyone is simply nonsense.
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I don't really care about them as people, I'm just saying if it was Crosby that was out for the season and we lost a chance at the Cup, I'd be pissed, when a simple mask would of prevented it.
 
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Pitt79 said:
They get orange slices and juice boxes in little kids hockey leagues don't they?
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who said I was talking about little kids? Thought the discussion was about the potential and ongoing wussification of a man's game.
 
I played HS football, wrestled and wrestled in college. During that time I had some bad injuries but I cant imagine having my teeth knocked out one or two at a time???
But that seems to be the way it works in hockey.
I noticed some players wear no face protection which is nuts IMO!
As other poster mentioned someone will be killed or have the eye knocked out or something really bad and that might spur changes!
Notice those guys get teeth broken or get cut bad I think both happened last night they go to the locker room and they come back to play wow! So maybe things wont change?
Wife and I are new to watching hockey ( 2003 to now) its the toughest, best sport I've ever watched and we're addicted. PENS fanatics!
When I was a kid growing up in NJ in the 60's we played football, wrestled, basketball, track or baseball. What's hockey, no rinks, no ice.
But when my company transferred me to Western Mass on the Vermont border all the guys I worked with played hockey as kids on ponds and backyard rinks since it was a cold climate. In fact they all played in adult leauges just like the Canadian guys!
When I went to Austria on business I took a walk the first night and there were hockey rinks in each neighborhood full of kids just like we have basketball or baseball fields full of kids.Hockey youth leauges just like Little Leauge here.
I guess it depended on where you grew up!
Hockey is the best sport on earth! Lots of hard working driven, focused, dedicated athletes!
 
My dad had teeth knocked out playing hockey in HS in Binghamton, NY (circa 1930). Kept him out of Navy OCS at start of WW II despite being a college grad. Finally sent to OCS in 1943. Missing teeth no longer mattered by then.
 
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There's lots of sports that could use protection, but never will. I remember my buddy telling me how many kids die a year by taking line drives to the cheat playing little league baseball, yet wearing a heart guard was not mandatory.

I hated playing with a cage, i felt it affected my vision on pucks in your feet....i hated a full face shield as it was harder to breathe and fogged up. Its good they wear visors, i'd leave it up to the players for what they want to wear.
 
upj87 said:
Hockey will become the game it should be. I.e. hockey that it has not been for 100 years. Soccer on ice. Can orange slices and juice boxes be that far behind?
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At one time football players didn't wear helmets. Then they wore helmets with no facemasks... you get where I'm going. Fighting in hockey was always stupid. It didn't make the game tough or the players tougher. It encouraged the use of no skill hacks who added no value to the game. It only placated the neanderthals in the sport.

No fighting in Olympic hockey, and hardly any fighting in playoff hockey. Both are the most popular forms of the game. Both still offer physical play along with a fast paced, high skill game. There is no worse hockey fan than the guy who sits there and constantly mutters hit'em every three seconds.
 
Gunga_Galunga said:
Within 10 years full face guards will be mandatory. It takes the old meatheads who control hockey a while to adapt.

Hopefully most will be dead in the next 25 years and Hockey will become the game it should be.
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You mean all the meathead players who choose not to right now?

Or all the meathead people who want to impose their "safety" on others. What do you care if someone gets a cut on their face. Should we all start to look at the habits in your life that we consider "unsafe."

I am sure the are many things that I should impose on you. Well, of course, if I was a do-gooder concerned about turning my feelings into action on your life.
 
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Gunga_Galunga said:
At one time football players didn't wear helmets. Then they wore helmets with no facemasks... you get where I'm going. Fighting in hockey was always stupid. It didn't make the game tough or the players tougher. It encouraged the use of no skill hacks who added no value to the game. It only placated the neanderthals in the sport.

No fighting in Olympic hockey, and hardly any fighting in playoff hockey. Both are the most popular forms of the game. Both still offer physical play along with a fast paced, high skill game. There is no worse hockey fan than the guy who sits there and constantly mutters hit'em every three seconds.
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All due respect, in many cases, "Olympic Hockey" is the most boring hockey out there. Not because of "no fighting". But because of the bigger ice surface that supposedly would allow the skilled, fast players more room to showcase never materializes? Why? Because with the bigger ice, especially wider, smartly coached defensive teams have an easier time keeping the offense on the perimeter, which makes it harder for plays to develop and increases the chances of random, not really skilled but more prayer attempted slap shots from far out going for a goal. Instead of well executed passing plays. The bigger ice essentially pushes players further out from the goal, and the high traffic areas around the goal is where scoring happens.
 
wbrpanther said:
Yeah, it took a long time for everybody to be wearing helmets with the Grandfather rule. Some guys like Guy LaFleur wouldn't wear one because they liked how their hair blew in the breeze.
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Same thing with Ron Duguay. The dude grew his hair long just so it could blow in the breeze.
 
Pitt79 said:
Don Cherry would have the best list of reasons. He's against helmets and visors because they interfere with fighting.
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All of the focus on safety is ruining the purity of the game. You just can't brain the other guy with your stick as easily if he's wearing a helmet.
 
Pitt79 said:
I don't care about safety, I don't care if a 4th liner from Wilkes-Barre get's hit in the face and DIES, F' HIM! But I do care if Sidney Crosby or Evgeni Malkin get hit in the mouth with a puck and it ends up costing the Pens a playoff run because it happened in the middle of the SCPs and it ruins MY ENTERTAINMENT. I'm no "do gooder" I HATE PEOPLE! I'm just pragmatic.
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I don't really think you are pragmatic. I do think you just hate people.
 
pittiswhereiamfrom2 said:
You mean all the meathead players who choose not to right now?

Or all the meathead people who want to impose their "safety" on others. What do you care if someone gets a cut on their face. Should we all start to look at the habits in your life that we consider "unsafe."

I am sure the are many things that I should impose on you. Well, of course, if I was a do-gooder concerned about turning my feelings into action on your life.
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I don't impose safety on any hockey player. I don't make the rules, nor do I help elect those that do impose the rules. Nice try though.
 
recruitsreadtheseboards said:
All due respect, in many cases, "Olympic Hockey" is the most boring hockey out there. Not because of "no fighting". But because of the bigger ice surface that supposedly would allow the skilled, fast players more room to showcase never materializes? Why? Because with the bigger ice, especially wider, smartly coached defensive teams have an easier time keeping the offense on the perimeter, which makes it harder for plays to develop and increases the chances of random, not really skilled but more prayer attempted slap shots from far out going for a goal. Instead of well executed passing plays. The bigger ice essentially pushes players further out from the goal, and the high traffic areas around the goal is where scoring happens.
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Your argument appears counter intuitive to me. More space should make the perimeter harder, not easier, to defend--much like spread offenses in football are harder to defend.
 
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