Artis' handle isn't optimum-hell he fumbles around with the ball 50% of the time he puts it on the floor. Young has nice offensive moves but for a PF, he's soft and a poor jumper. It doesn't take much in the way of jostling to throw Young completely off of his offensive game.If you don't think Mike and Jamel don't have the optimal offensive attributes as a four and three respectively, then I can't even fathom what your expectations or perspective could be.