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SMF predicted these WPIAL guys would start leaving at some point.
 
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Hey Cuckduzzi,

Stop offering these guys a lifeline to play their final years in front of friends and family, for a healthy sum of money, after they go out and get their fix at a bigger program. We can go 6-6 without them.

I have a dream. That one day these WPIAL burnouts will be judged not be the content of their football ability but by the uniform colors of the team they used to play for. No more Penn State castoffs who initially spurned us: please and thank you.
 

SMF predicted these WPIAL guys would start leaving at some point.
Bummer.... I hear the other WPIAL players are upset because they'll need another Old Maid card player for Saturdays in the fall.... No worries, reinforcements are on the way.....:p
 
Hey Cuckduzzi,

Stop offering these guys a lifeline to play their final years in front of friends and family, for a healthy sum of money, after they go out and get their fix at a bigger program. We can go 6-6 without them.

I have a dream. That one day these WPIAL burnouts will be judged not be the content of their football ability but by the uniform colors of the team they used to play for. No more Penn State castoffs who initially spurned us: please and thank you.
I wouldn't mind getting the 4 star WPIAL players on the rebound if they were any good and can help the team, but the vast majority have been proven to be overrated!....

Sadly, that won't stop posters from getting upset when Pitt loses them to other schools....

I'd rather get players from areas that have elite competition at the high school level.... Florida, Texas, Georgia, Louisiana, VMDC area. Even Michigan and Ohio are better...
 
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Pretty sure we'd have been happy to land Speca and/or Tatsch.

But then again, there's still time.
 
I wouldn't mind getting the 4 star WPIAL players on the rebound if they were any good and can help the team, but the vast majority have been proven to be overrated!....

Sadly, that won't stop posters from getting upset when Pitt loses them to other schools....

I'd rather get players from areas that have elite competition at the high school level.... Florida, Texas, Georgia, Louisiana, VMDC area. Even Michigan and Ohio are better...

I don't see how we'll ever get them out of high school once this paradigm has been established. They almost literally know they can go out and get a flavor of another program before Grandpa Duzz will welcome them back home with open arms. Petrishen, Devonshire, and McMillon were good players here... but I still would rather see us draw a line in the sand, or else we'll only get the ones who have been chewed up and spit out by other programs.
 
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Pretty sure we'd have been happy to land Speca and/or Tatsch.

But then again, there's still time.

Speca? Lol, Pine Richland gashed him and the rest of the vaunted PCC defense for over 200 yards rushing in the playoffs. You would think the big stars would step up in the big games.

Robinson was a good player but I wonder if he is fully recovered. Same worries about Tatsch, shoulder injury which could be hard to recover from. I wouldn't mind bringing Robinson in if there is mutual interest.
 
We'll see, and I am admittedly partial to PCC kids, but I think he'll be a good player. At PCC he was strictly a downhill LB who wasn't coached much, and he had a lot to learn.

Robinson was always going to be an uphill climb after missing his senior year and playing against crap competition to begin with. I would certainly take a flyer on him so long as he recognizes that he's not a finished product yet.
 
We'll see, and I am admittedly partial to PCC kids, but I think he'll be a good player. At PCC he was strictly a downhill LB who wasn't coached much, and he had a lot to learn.

Robinson was always going to be an uphill climb after missing his senior year and playing against crap competition to begin with. I would certainly take a flyer on him so long as he recognizes that he's not a finished product yet.
I'd be surprised if Robinson was not interested in Pitt the way Manalac has coached up the LB's. On the other hand, Manalac is very good at spotting talent and he might believe Robinson is not a good fit.
 
I don't see how we'll ever get them out of high school once this paradigm has been established. They almost literally know they can go out and get a flavor of another program before Grandpa Duzz will welcome them back home with open arms. Petrishen, Devonshire, and McMillon were good players here... but I still would rather see us draw a line in the sand, or else we'll only get the ones who have been chewed up and spit out by other programs.
Yes, Duzz has become the Statue of Liberty: “Give me your entitled, your underachievers/Your huddled masses yearning to play and make money,”

I don't like it, but if they can help I won't complain.
 
We'll see, and I am admittedly partial to PCC kids, but I think he'll be a good player. At PCC he was strictly a downhill LB who wasn't coached much, and he had a lot to learn.

Robinson was always going to be an uphill climb after missing his senior year and playing against crap competition to begin with. I would certainly take a flyer on him so long as he recognizes that he's not a finished product yet.

I thought another issue with Robinson was that he outgrew LB and was being moved to DE. Maybe not picking up that position?

These WPIAL kids that are great athletes in high school but don't have a true position always seem to struggle.
 
I look at this a bit differently. Rather than have a recruit tie up a roster spot while they mature and grow to be a P4 player, get them in the portal after another school use up a roster spot for them and feed and grow them for us.
We should 100% be doing this for OL. Why have a guy on the roster for 3-4 years producing nothing?
 
If PITT keeps taking these kids after they can't compete at their chosen school then Narduzzi will never get them right out of high school. Let them go elsewhere.
 
If PITT keeps taking these kids after they can't compete at their chosen school then Narduzzi will never get them right out of high school. Let them go elsewhere.
These guys aren't good enough to play at Pitt as FR and r-FR. Let them pocket a few hundred k from James from State College. Why waste money on guys not ready to play? Get them or others in years 4&5 when finally ready.
 
I, for one, am glad we had Petrishen on that 2021 ACC championship team. He had a solid season and helped us win. I'm happy I got to witness Devonshire's Pitt six against WVU. It was quite possibly the happiest fan base and best atmosphere I've ever seen at Heinz Field. I'm appreciative of the toughness and couple hundred tackles McMillon provided the team the last couple years. Hell, I'm even pleased having Derrick Davis Jr. get the Game winning TD in last years Brawl. If they have talent, can help you win, and the price is right, you take them. Period!
 
Hey Cuckduzzi,

Stop offering these guys a lifeline to play their final years in front of friends and family, for a healthy sum of money, after they go out and get their fix at a bigger program. We can go 6-6 without them.

I have a dream. That one day these WPIAL burnouts will be judged not be the content of their football ability but by the uniform colors of the team they used to play for. No more Penn State castoffs who initially spurned us: please and thank you.
Allusions on the lair at 4:38 pm? Happy hour?
 
I get the feelings of being spurned once and telling them to f*** off, but it's a different reality now. The typical Pitt player moving forward won't be the expensive 4-star freshman; it will be the formerly expensive 4-star freshman that either was overrated, or was in a program that had too many other expensive 4-5 star guys ahead of him, or a properly ranked 4-star that takes longer to develop and is forced to move on from his original school. If PN can get enough of that last group, it makes up for not having great freshman recruiting classes.

To be clear, the glory days are over. Not only here, but at all but maybe 20 schools total. A natty isn't happening. Probably an ACC championship isn't happening. But a good season can still be had and still be fun, so long as staffs/schools are realistic and can make changes away from the old model, which is no longer viable.

A guy like Robinson isn't necessarily pond scum because he can't break through the depth chart at a place like PSU. He can still be a good player at the ACC level, and I have no idea what the NIL costs are for guys like him, but we are better served saving money for guys with potential that come later on, than on guys who are 3-stars to begin with. Those guys, too, aren't playing for 2-3 years anyhow. Let the higher ranked programs develop some of these kids, and try to pick them up on the rebound when they can't break thru early enough to continue getting paid.
 
The scuttlebutt on X is that PSU is 12 scholarships over the limit. If this is true, more PSU players will be leaving soon...
 
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isnt the limit 125? So they have 137 scholarship players?


i have heard that Rich Rod down in morgantown does have a full allotment at 125. is pitt even at 75?
I thought the old system was an 85 scholarship limit and 125 roster limit, and now its no scholarship limit with a 105 roster limit. Could be wrong though.
 
From what I understand, the limit is up to 125 scholarships. You can have less. Each school decides. If you're smart, you want less than 125. It costs the schools more money for guys to stand on the sidelines and not contributing. Why have 40 players over 85? Most of the 85 can't get on the field anyway...In PSU's case, you are paying money for more card players on the sideline...
 
From what I understand, the limit is up to 125 scholarships. You can have less. Each school decides. If you're smart, you want less than 125. It costs the schools more money for guys to stand on the sidelines and not contributing. Why have 40 players over 85? Most of the 85 can't get on the field anyway...In PSU's case, you are paying money for more card players on the sideline...
Because a few of those guys that are 86-125 will turn out to be significant contributors. It's just playing the odds.
 
I think the idea that Franklin is obsessed with us here is overblown. Maybe a decade ago, but that ship has sailed. It just doesn't seem worth the bother to me, especially since PN seems to have given up on even trying to recruit the WPIAL. He strikes me as a thin-skinned guy, but that would describe a lot of his fellow coaches. I guess he could still have some kind of personal emnity towards PN, but they really aren't traveling in the same circles anymore.
 
I think the idea that Franklin is obsessed with us here is overblown. Maybe a decade ago, but that ship has sailed. It just doesn't seem worth the bother to me, especially since PN seems to have given up on even trying to recruit the WPIAL. He strikes me as a thin-skinned guy, but that would describe a lot of his fellow coaches. I guess he could still have some kind of personal emnity towards PN, but they really aren't traveling in the same circles anymore.

To say that it’s overblown is an understatement. It’s downright delusional and I laugh every time I read it.

Franklin is building a title contender at PSU. When you’re playing football at the highest level, these scholarships are like gold. He has legit prospects that he has to turn down every year.

He’s not going to waste spots on kids who can’t compete just to spite some goofy gym teacher coach from a middling ACC school.
 
To say that it’s overblown is an understatement. It’s downright delusional and I laugh every time I read it.

Franklin is building a title contender at PSU. When you’re playing football at the highest level, these scholarships are like gold. He has legit prospects that he has to turn down every year.

He’s not going to waste spots on kids who can’t compete just to spite some goofy gym teacher coach from a middling ACC school.

By taking WPIAL players? Good one!
 
I think coaches waste spots all the time, whether it be on a teammate of a better player, or an attempt to curry regional favor by taking a tweener or two. It surely happens, and it's happened in the WPIAL. I just don't think he's looking to put a knife in PN's back anymore.
 
I think coaches waste spots all the time, whether it be on a teammate of a better player, or an attempt to curry regional favor by taking a tweener or two. It surely happens, and it's happened in the WPIAL. I just don't think he's looking to put a knife in PN's back anymore.

Sure, but those types of instances are about making the program better in the long run, so you look at them like investments.

But taking a guy who you know has no chance to contribute, just to spite a coach and program that’s not even on your level? It would be downright foolish at the P4 level, and even dumber as a title contender.
 
Sure, but those types of instances are about making the program better in the long run, so you look at them like investments.

But taking a guy who you know has no chance to contribute, just to spite a coach and program that’s not even on your level? It would be downright foolish at the P4 level, and even dumber as a title contender.

Please stop saying that. I understand the stars aligned last season and some goofy teams were in it at the end, but Penn State is not a title contender. A playoff contender, yes. But not a contender for an actual championship.
 
Please stop saying that. I understand the stars aligned last season and some goofy teams were in it at the end, but Penn State is not a title contender. A playoff contender, yes. But not a contender for an actual championship.

Lol there’s 135 teams in college football, and PSU is top 5 in title odds everywhere you look. If that’s not a title contender, I don’t know what is.
 
Sure, but those types of instances are about making the program better in the long run, so you look at them like investments.

But taking a guy who you know has no chance to contribute, just to spite a coach and program that’s not even on your level? It would be downright foolish at the P4 level, and even dumber as a title contender.
Branch campus dummy U is a pretender and not a contender….” We are….stupid”, the Branch Campus dummy credo.
 
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