I'll bet you $10,000 that Penn State wins 0 national championships in the next ten years. It's a foregone conclusion. They recruit well, but not quite well enough.
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I'll bet you $10,000 that Penn State wins 0 national championships in the next ten years. It's a foregone conclusion. They recruit well, but not quite well enough.
Penn State isn't going to win a natty, but making the playoffs most years is a definite possibility.
That said, most other teams aren't going to win a natty, either. A handful of teams are going to win 90% of them, and when someone else wins it will be shocking.
That said, most other teams aren't going to win a natty, either. A handful of teams are going to win 90% of them, and when someone else wins it will be shocking.
NIL has kind of worked both ways. The list of teams that can win a national championship is larger. However, the playoff club is even more exclusive. Like, Pitt would have made it in 2021, but that will never happen again.
All this said, the last two years have been quirky. I expect the southern teams to reassert themselves back to a point where Ohio State and Michigan are basically the only northern teams that have a realistic chance. How many more years can Alabama, for example, go without winning a championship before they start taking some really desperate measures?
Penn State is in the 10-15 range as college football programs go (they'll often be ranked hire because the SEC teams will cannibalize each other). Penis head has them basically maxed out.
No intelligent fan would make such a bet, as winning a title involves far too many variables. Ohio State just went 10 years without winning a title, but were they not title contenders in every one of those years?
Being a title contender doesn’t guarantee you anything, but it puts you at the top of the sport. And in a sport with 135 teams and chaos every week, that’s the best any program could realistically ask for.
There are 135 teams in number, yes. But that's like telling someone there are 135 eligible bachelors, and then they get there and see Chaz Bono, Hank the Angry Drunken Dwarf, Bozo the Clown, the Three Stooges, Norman Bates, etc.
There are like 25 teams in college football that are reasonably competing.
That’s a fair take. I guess it’s all subjective in the end. To me, if you have top 5 odds to win a championship in your sport, you’re a title contender. But I wouldn’t argue if your cutoff is different.
High Pitch Eric not pleased at being left out. Not high pitch any more either I guess.
I'm not so much on the hate PSU train as I am on the hate college football train.
In a vacuum, if a team like PSU won and was actually Arizona or Kansas or some other such thing, we'd be happy about that. The day will come, soon, when no matter what underdog wins, we will be glad for it.
Eh, like I've said, I work with a bunch of PSU and ND and UM people. Pick your poison here. I've picked mine.
In a vacuum, if a team like PSU won and was actually Arizona or Kansas or some other such thing, we'd be happy about that. The day will come, soon, when no matter what underdog wins, we will be glad for it.
Eh, like I've said, I work with a bunch of PSU and ND and UM people. Pick your poison here. I've picked mine.
With that turd Allar at QB, they ain't winning a national title. They will be in it again, but he will choke out again when it matters.
There are two sentences I agree with. Now let me put them together....
"Franklin is building a title contender at PSU. It’s downright delusional and I laugh every time I read it." I agree! It's hilarious!!!
Go spend some time elsewhere...I hear Purina is looking for taste testers in their canine division, I’m sure you’ll qualify…
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Pitt was once involved with one of the top players in Pittsburgh during the 2023 recruiting cycle but lost out to Penn State as it snagged the four-star linebacker. Ta’Mere Robinson — a Brashear High School grad — had Pitt as a top-10 school before narrowing it down to Penn State, Miami and...pittsburghsportsnow.com
SMF predicted these WPIAL guys would start leaving at some point.
If true, that is a smart tactic. I remember that Wanny also placed a premium on establishing relationships with high school coaches.
True that, but I’d like to walk in their shoes for at least one or two seasons over the next ten years. PSU gets it right when hiring football coaches and staff. We seem to settle for mediocrity or less in football and athletic department hires generally.
They will go 11-1 with a dozen kids from shippensburg. They have the weakest turd of a schedule in the history of the Big 10. Their non conference schedule is a joke.
I don't know what it is. Franklin is suddenly in an interesting spot with recruiting. He's still doing very well but PSU isn't doing as well with NIL money.
yep, signing Dan LoHyde, Greg Webster and the rest of those WPIAL stars really helped Wanny land the big fish like Pryor, etc.
I remember Lohyde, Webster and Nix were going to be this formidable linebacking corps and it never came close to materializing.
Nix I'll give a pass on since it probably help land his 5-star brother.
Correct. Post House settlement leaves a roster of 105. Period.
Except for Oregon and OSU and maybe a few others, nobody thinks they are doing well with NIL money. Which is why the system sucks.
The kid from Seton is reported to have signed a 1.2 million dollar NIL deal in his sophomore year of high school.
We are not even in the same world as psu when it comes to NIL.
We aren't landing any of the "elite" wpial kids under this format.
We are not even in the same world as psu when it comes to NIL.
We aren't landing any of the "elite" wpial kids under this format.
PSU thinks they aren't in the same world as OSU. OSU thinks they aren't in the same world as Oregon. And so it goes. The whole thing just sucks.
PSU is much closer to OSU then we are to PSU.
The thing that sucks is we can complain that Narduzzi can't recruit the WPIAL but I'm of the belief no one PITT can hire can compete with PSU under this current system where PSU can lockdown HS sophomores by offering more in NIL then we can offer our current players.
It stinks that Pitt cannot get a combined $5 million from Rooney and Tepper to swell the collective and buy enough good players to have 10-win season. Then, the following year, can add a hefty NIL fee on tickets to put it on the fans to have a competitive team.
How is that deal with the Seton kid structured? Is it a promise of paying him that when he arrives on campus?
I thought is was a 105 limit. We had just under for the Spring Game. We want to bring more in, so we needed some players to enter the portal.
I thought that the 105 limit was part of the House settlement that has since been put on hold. If the hold gets lifted, it's hard to imagine that the change would be immediate. That wouldn't be fair to anyone.
yeah you would think there has to be some type of contingency built in, but probably slip him something while still in high school
Rooney should kick in $10 million per year as recompense for Pitt playing on the dump on the Northside.
Pitt doesn’t have near the total number of alums as the B1G state schools, but there’s still rich alums. Correct me if I’m wrong, but why is it that PSU can get the West Shore Homes guy and Terry Pegula or whoever to dump a bunch of money into the program but Tepper, Cuban, Rooney, etc. want nothing to do with it?
My guess is Cuban is an Indiana grad, Tepper I’ve heard doesn’t trust the administration (who can blame him?) and not sure why Rooney doesn’t except I guess he’s too cheap to do so.
I’ll give Cuban the benefit of the doubt because I don’t think anyone really feels the same tie to the institution if they just went there for the post graduate degree, but he’s also a total phony that loves to have his name floated about buying the pirates or “saving The O”, even though he never had any intention of doing either.
Perhaps. Cubans worth 5x what Nutting is though. Why even have that news put out there or act like it was a possibility unless you were an attention whore?
Cuban went to Pitt for like a semester as a freshman undergrad after leaving high school early, and transferred to Indiana. He has always donated to IU. He never went anywhere post grad.
Public pressure. He was trying.
Nobody can force Nutting to sell. I truly believe that at the time, Cuban would have jumped. And who really thinks that we are better off keeping Nutting as the owner?
The price since that time has increased by a billion. Cuban is no fool, like Nutting clearly is. Cuban created his fortune, Nutting inherited his. Big difference.
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