Ta'Mere Robinson in the portal

[Joe the Panther Fan]

Cuban went to Pitt for like a semester as a freshman undergrad after leaving high school early, and transferred to Indiana. He has always donated to IU. He never went anywhere post grad.

For the life of me I will never understand why so many Pitt fans think that a guy who was in school here for such a short period of time and who is an actual alumni of a different P4 school would ever be a Pitt donor of any sort.

But hey, he did come to that one basketball game here one time.

 

[Saboteur II]

PSU is much closer to OSU then we are to PSU.

The thing that sucks is we can complain that Narduzzi can't recruit the WPIAL but I'm of the belief no one PITT can hire can compete with PSU under this current system where PSU can lockdown HS sophomores by offering more in NIL then we can offer our current players.

If PSU tried to make their living off WPIAL players, they would be in the title game every year….the MAC title game.
Pitt wastes so much time, money and face by chasing WPIAL players they will never get.
Stop trying the same thing and expecting different results. Ignore the WPIAL and get players from DELMARVA, Florida and Georgia.
What are WPIAL coaches going to do that they aren’t already doing?

 

[steelcurtain55.]

If PSU tried to make their living off WPIAL players, they would be in the title game every year….the MAC title game.
Pitt wastes so much time, money and face by chasing WPIAL players they will never get.
Stop trying the same thing and expecting different results. Ignore the WPIAL and get players from DELMARVA, Florida and Georgia.
What are WPIAL coaches going to do that they aren’t already doing?

Pitt wastes virtually no money recruiting WPIAL kids they will never get. I think PITT fans think our coaches are living in a bubble waiting on WPIAL kids. When is the last time PITT has put all their resources into some local kid without offering several others at that same position? Pryor? Morelli?

Why would PITT have anymore success landing high end DMV kids with the same limited resources? I get the idea that going south is a strategy but how do you expect to keep a underrecruited prospect who is developed by our staff only to be recruited again 2 years later by a team with vastly different resources??

I'm not sure what the WPIAL coaches have to do with anything that involves PITT recruiting. 90% of HS recruiting doesn't involve the HS coach anymore.

 

[FireballZ]

PSU is much closer to OSU then we are to PSU.

The thing that sucks is we can complain that Narduzzi can't recruit the WPIAL but I'm of the belief no one PITT can hire can compete with PSU under this current system where PSU can lockdown HS sophomores by offering more in NIL then we can offer our current players.

Woah, woah, woah...

"We". "Our". Stop pretending here. You're a Temple guy that sleeps with a Pedo bear.

 

[forbesfield]

Woah, woah, woah...

"We". "Our". Stop pretending here. You're a Temple guy that sleeps with a Pedo bear.

Dude. You are really out of bounds here. I get that your shtick is to attack people by declaring them pedos or whatever, and frankly, it's kind of old and irrelevant, but this is not the guy to attack. You've attacked me and some others for whatever reason, and we really don't notice or care, primarily because some of us were on the old wooden bleachers at Pitt Stadium (before they were swapped out) before you were born, but this guy doesn't deserve it.

Really, my man, get a grip.

 

[steelcurtain55.]

Woah, woah, woah...

"We". "Our". Stop pretending here. You're a Temple guy that sleeps with a Pedo bear.

I have a degree from Pitt. I never went to temple nor do i sleep with stuffed animals.

Weren't you the one awhile back that said you only started following pitt because your husband is/was a huge fan? I get that you're a fanatic but relax on the insults.

 

[Saboteur II]

Pitt wastes virtually no money recruiting WPIAL kids they will never get. I think PITT fans think our coaches are living in a bubble waiting on WPIAL kids. When is the last time PITT has put all their resources into some local kid without offering several others at that same position? Pryor? Morelli?

Why would PITT have anymore success landing high end DMV kids with the same limited resources? I get the idea that going south is a strategy but how do you expect to keep a underrecruited prospect who is developed by our staff only to be recruited again 2 years later by a team with vastly different resources??

I'm not sure what the WPIAL coaches have to do with anything that involves PITT recruiting. 90% of HS recruiting doesn't involve the HS coach anymore.

In my business, the first criteria to be deemed an expert is that you must live at least 150 miles away.
Pitt is living in the shadow of PSU, ND and OSU. Like it or not, Pitt is not going to get 90% of WPIAL players recruited by those schools.
DELMARVA has a superabundance of talent. The WPIAL is shrinking by the day. But I get it. 1980 is never that far away.

 

[BigChungus90210]

In my business, the first criteria to be deemed an expert is that you must live at least 150 miles away.
Pitt is living in the shadow of PSU, ND and OSU. Like it or not, Pitt is not going to get 90% of WPIAL players recruited by those schools.
DELMARVA has a superabundance of talent. The WPIAL is shrinking by the day. But I get it. 1980 is never that far away.

This is true. Unless you were absolutely in love with the University growing up, why would you come here if you had an OSU or other equivalent school offer? I'm not sure any of us would even advise our own kid to do that.

 

[TheWerewolfFromTwilight]

I don't know what % of WPIAL players with blueish blood offers (we'll say Penn State, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Michigan, etc. ) we used to get, but it couldn't have been less than at least 40% under Wannstedt. Now, it's flat out 0%, which is wild to me.

Obviously NIL has something (you might even argue everything) to do with it, but it was trending downward under Narduzzi even before that. 2017 was supposed to be the best WPIAL class in years, and we missed on Wade, Jeter, Thorpe, Adams, Hinish, Hainsey, Lugg, and I'm sure a few others. Ever since then, with the exception of 2021, it's been awful.

 

[Richard A]

Dude. You are really out of bounds here. I get that your shtick is to attack people by declaring them pedos or whatever, and frankly, it's kind of old and irrelevant, but this is not the guy to attack. You've attacked me and some others for whatever reason, and we really don't notice or care, primarily because some of us were on the old wooden bleachers at Pitt Stadium (before they were swapped out) before you were born, but this guy doesn't deserve it.

Really, my man, get a grip.

Wasn’t fun pulling splinters out of your ass after sitting on the wooden benches!

 

[pittmeister]

 

[9782978]

For the life of me I will never understand why so many Pitt fans think that a guy who was in school here for such a short period of time and who is an actual alumni of a different P4 school would ever be a Pitt donor of any sort.

But hey, he did come to that one basketball game here one time.

I think he went to Pitt Law School

 

[BigChungus90210]

Talk about a culture shock between those towns.

 

[steelcurtain55.]

I don't know what % of WPIAL players with blueish blood offers (we'll say Penn State, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Michigan, etc. ) we used to get, but it couldn't have been less than at least 40% under Wannstedt. Now, it's flat out 0%, which is wild to me.

I would venture it is under 25%



Justin King - PSU
Jason Kacinko - Purdue
Sean Lee - PSU
Darrin Walls - ND
Nick Sukay - PSU
Stefen Wisnewiski - PSU
Rob Gronkowski - AZ
Toney Clemons - Michigan
Steve Paskorz - ND
Chris Drager -VT
Jon Ditto - PSU
Terelle Pryor - OSU
Andrew Sweat - OSU
Christian Wilson - UNC
Mike Yanich - PSU
Dorin Bell - OSU
Corey Brown - OSU
Jordan Hall - OSU
Cullen Christian - Michigan
Miles Diffenbach - PSU
Paul Jones - PSU
Mike Hull - PSU
Tom Ricketts - PSU
Kenny Wilkins - Michigan
Delvon Simmons - Texas Tech
Juan Price - OSU

Wanny was slightly better then Duzz at recruiting locally but JoePa handled him locally when it came to recruiting.

 

[forbesfield]

Some crazy names on that list, but to be frank, a lot of the losses turned out not to be losses.

 

[pittdan77]

Some crazy names on that list, but to be frank, a lot of the losses turned out not to be losses.

It ain't like the 80's when you could see a D1 prospect just about anywhere you went on Friday night.

 

[pittmeister]

Some crazy names on that list, but to be frank, a lot of the losses turned out not to be losses.

Bullseye... Here in my opinion were the loses....

Sean Lee - PSU
Darrin Walls - ND
Mike Hull - PSU
Terelle Pryor - OSU
Rob Gronkowski - AZ

 

[pittdan77]

Bullseye... Here in my opinion were the loses....

Sean Lee - PSU
Darrin Walls - ND
Mike Hull - PSU
Terelle Pryor - OSU
Rob Gronkowski - AZ

To be fair, I'm not sure Gronk would have stayed academically eligible at Pitt.

 

[forbesfield]

Bullseye... Here in my opinion were the loses....

Sean Lee - PSU
Darrin Walls - ND
Mike Hull - PSU
Terelle Pryor - OSU
Rob Gronkowski - AZ

Pretty sure I remember that Gronk was already committed to AZ by the time he arrived at Woody High.

 

[forbesfield]

To be fair, I'm not sure Gronk would have stayed academically eligible at Pitt.

Can you give me a name of any significant athlete at Pitt that became academically ineligible? The BB team, going way back to the Big East glory days of Charles Smith, and even in the Howland era, had a number of academic dimwits that never missed time. The football team wasn't immune to stupidity either, going back to Sherrill and Foge and Gottfried.

Now, I'm talking academics, not hijinks of the Herb Pope variety.

 

[Slick Manager of Champs]

Pretty sure I remember that Gronk was already committed to AZ by the time he arrived at Woody High.

I know it has been argued before but I don't consider Gronk to be WPIAL. A true rent a player.

 

[pittdan77]

Can you give me a name of any significant athlete at Pitt that became academically ineligible? The BB team, going way back to the Big East glory days of Charles Smith, and even in the Howland era, had a number of academic dimwits that never missed time. The football team wasn't immune to stupidity either, going back to Sherrill and Foge and Gottfried.

Now, I'm talking academics, not hijinks of the Herb Pope variety.

I agree but I think Pitt doesn't really pursue guys that aren't at least capable of being dragged through an academic program.

 

[ChiefJusticeMarshall]

I would venture it is under 25%



Justin King - PSU
Jason Kacinko - Purdue
Sean Lee - PSU
Darrin Walls - ND
Nick Sukay - PSU
Stefen Wisnewiski - PSU
Rob Gronkowski - AZ
Toney Clemons - Michigan
Steve Paskorz - ND
Chris Drager -VT
Jon Ditto - PSU
Terelle Pryor - OSU
Andrew Sweat - OSU
Christian Wilson - UNC
Mike Yanich - PSU
Dorin Bell - OSU
Corey Brown - OSU
Jordan Hall - OSU
Cullen Christian - Michigan
Miles Diffenbach - PSU
Paul Jones - PSU
Mike Hull - PSU
Tom Ricketts - PSU
Kenny Wilkins - Michigan
Delvon Simmons - Texas Tech
Juan Price - OSU

Wanny was slightly better then Duzz at recruiting locally but JoePa handled him locally when it came to recruiting.

What would make the list more relevant is if you included the guys Pitt actually got that were also recruited by P4 level schools in comparison.

 

[Slick Manager of Champs]

Can you give me a name of any significant athlete at Pitt that became academically ineligible? The BB team, going way back to the Big East glory days of Charles Smith, and even in the Howland era, had a number of academic dimwits that never missed time. The football team wasn't immune to stupidity either, going back to Sherrill and Foge and Gottfried.

Now, I'm talking academics, not hijinks of the Herb Pope variety.

Rod Brookin and Darnel Dickerson are two that come to mind

 

[forbesfield]

Rod Brookin and Darnel Dickerson are two that come to mind

Hah. Blasts from the past. One of these guys at one point had a GPA that was humorously low.

 

[Islanderpanther]

Rod Brookin and Darnel Dickerson are two that come to mind

Throw in the RB from Wash High….Davis. How about the nose tackle from Woody High who played for Walt Harris…can’t think of his name…..starred in Tangerine Bowl against NC State.

 

[TheWerewolfFromTwilight]

I would venture it is under 25%



Justin King - PSU
Jason Kacinko - Purdue
Sean Lee - PSU
Darrin Walls - ND
Nick Sukay - PSU
Stefen Wisnewiski - PSU
Rob Gronkowski - AZ
Toney Clemons - Michigan
Steve Paskorz - ND
Chris Drager -VT
Jon Ditto - PSU
Terelle Pryor - OSU
Andrew Sweat - OSU
Christian Wilson - UNC
Mike Yanich - PSU
Dorin Bell - OSU
Corey Brown - OSU
Jordan Hall - OSU
Cullen Christian - Michigan
Miles Diffenbach - PSU
Paul Jones - PSU
Mike Hull - PSU
Tom Ricketts - PSU
Kenny Wilkins - Michigan
Delvon Simmons - Texas Tech
Juan Price - OSU

Wanny was slightly better then Duzz at recruiting locally but JoePa handled him locally when it came to recruiting.

That's a long list, but do you know what else is a long list? The number of WPIAL players we used to land. Here is 2004-2010. I realize Wannstedt's first class was 2005, but I just did these seven years. I left off schools (in Erie, etc.) if I wasn't sure if they were in that WPIAL that year.

It's impossible to tell who actually had blue blood offers on this list, because the recruiting sites didn't used to list all their offers. However, it's pretty reasonable to discern that many of these guys were pretty highly sought after.

So it's possible the number is 40%. It's possible the number is even higher than that. And it's also possible it is 25%. However, to call Wannstedt only "slightly better" at recruiting locally is categorically false. Because Narduzzi has gotten zero - zip, zilch, nada - WPIAL guys with a legit Penn State offer in the last five classes. He's the worst local recruiter Pitt has ever seen.


Mckillop
Binson
Bokor
Davis
Gunn
Revis
Brooks
Brown
Campbell
Davis
Bachman
Murray
Pelusi
Williams
Ventrone
Webster
Hargrove
Loheyde
Nix
Pinkston
Smith
Malecki
Dickerson
Fields
Caragein
DeCicco
Lindsey
Jacobson
Williams
Nix
Hale
Saddler
Baldwin
Shanahan
Sunseri
Taglianetti
Turnley
Ezell
Thomas
Mason
Hollins
Schlieper
DeCicco
Carswell
Doakes
Donald
Ifill
Weatherspoon

 

[Slick Manager of Champs]

Throw in the RB from Wash High….Davis. How about the nose tackle from Woody High who played for Walt Harris…can’t think of his name…..starred in Tangerine Bowl against NC State.

I don't think Tyree Young was academics

 

[TheWerewolfFromTwilight]

What would make the list more relevant is if you included the guys Pitt actually got that were also recruited by P4 level schools in comparison.

Right, that list looks long by today's standards, but we were getting like 7 WPIAL guys/year back then, so it isn't really that many misses when taken into context.

 

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[TheWerewolfFromTwilight]

For Pete's sake, Paul Chryst landed Tyrique Jarrett, J.P. Holtz, Rusel Shell, Adam Bisnowaty, Deaysean Rippy, Dorian Johnson, Tyler Boyd, Scott Orndoff, Alex Bookser, Mike Grimm, Jordan Whitehead, etc. all without mumbling an audible word to any of them.

Narduzzi can't even crack some of these guys' top ten lists.

 

[forbesfield]

For Pete's sake, Paul Chryst landed Tyrique Jarrett, J.P. Holtz, Rusel Shell, Adam Bisnowaty, Deaysean Rippy, Dorian Johnson, Tyler Boyd, Scott Orndoff, Alex Bookser, Mike Grimm, Jordan Whitehead, etc. all without mumbling an audible word to any of them.

Narduzzi can't even crack some of these guys' top ten lists.

PC benefitted from the scandal. Holtz and Boyd fell into his lap there, and they were great players.

PN has to deal with the $$$ factor in a much bigger way.

On topic, though, I guess Robinson didn't even give us sniff?

 

[TheWerewolfFromTwilight]

PC benefitted from the scandal. Holtz and Boyd fell into his lap there, and they were great players.

PN has to deal with the $$$ factor in a much bigger way.

Notre Dame didn't have a scandal. They seem to have a taste for WPIAL players. Plenty of Big Ten and ACC teams didn't have one.

What was Narduzzi's excuse when he was missing out on the guys from 2017, 2018, 2019, and 2020, before NIL was a thing?

 

[ChiefJusticeMarshall]

To be fair, I'm not sure Gronk would have stayed academically eligible at Pitt.

Gronk was like an A student in High School.

 

[pittmeister]

It's official... I seriously doubt Narduzzi even inquired about his interest in Pitt.

 

[Slick Manager of Champs]

It's official... I seriously doubt Narduzzi even inquired about his interest in Pitt.

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lol, maybe 3rd time will be the charm and he ends up here to finish it out.

 

[Slick Manager of Champs]

For Pete's sake, Paul Chryst landed Tyrique Jarrett, J.P. Holtz, Rusel Shell, Adam Bisnowaty, Deaysean Rippy, Dorian Johnson, Tyler Boyd, Scott Orndoff, Alex Bookser, Mike Grimm, Jordan Whitehead, etc. all without mumbling an audible word to any of them.

Narduzzi can't even crack some of these guys' top ten lists.

It's really strange, Narduzzi's 1st year he came on strong, signing Hamlin (who said he wouldn't have considered Pitt without Narduzzi), flipped Matthews from the nits, came very close to also flipping Miles Sanders and was also very close with Khaleke Hudson. But something seemed to spook him with 2017. Jeter seemed like a sure thing, and then spurned him. Jurkovec (not that class but committed very early to ND), Lugg, Adams going to ND. Lamont Wade to the nits. Not sure how it all fell apart so quickly. Maybe a better finish in 2016 would have swayed a few of them? 8-5 was just more of the same, but a 10-3 or something like that might have went a long way.

 

[forbesfield]

The Sanders flip wasn't close. Mom wanted him out of town from the get-go, and it had nothing to do with Pitt and everything to do with the boys back home. I don't know how Miles felt about that, but Mom had strong feelings. Sanders came a lot closer to flipping to Michigan State, actually.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

I think he went to Pitt Law School

He did not.

 

[Slick Manager of Champs]

The Sanders flip wasn't close. Mom wanted him out of town from the get-go, and it had nothing to do with Pitt and everything to do with the boys back home. I don't know how Miles felt about that, but Mom had strong feelings. Sanders came a lot closer to flipping to Michigan State, actually.

yeah I remember the mom was heavily involved but I thought the story was Sanders really liked Cheney, the OC here at the time. Then Cheney left and that pretty much killed it.