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Teel on bowls and divisions

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He said its RA or Belk for VT. Now, this was Tuesday so I dont know if kt was before or after the CFP show and if FSU to the Orange had any affect on that.

David Hale saying VT to the Citrus is worst-case for Pitt because it leaves Louisville and Lamar Jackson for the RA and it might be difficult for the RA to do a Backyard Brawl instead of picking the Heisman winner.

I am confused as to why there isnt any smoke at all about a Florida-Miami Citrus Bowl. That seems like a no-brainer. Miami AD was quoted this week as saying he expects to be in Jacksonville or Orlando (doesn't say which Orlando bowl) but its amazing to me that NOBODY is talking about a potential UF-UM game in Orlando. Florida WAS there last year so maybe they dont want to go twice in a row but for a rivalry game like that, I thought they'd go for it.

For Pitt, best-case scenario is for Louisville to go to the Citrus. I think its very unlikely that VT goes to the RA to play 2 straight games vs WVU when they can play a respectable SEC team in Charlotte.

Louisville and Miami are the wildcards for Pitt. Both can get either Orlando bowl.

For Pitt, you have to hope the Citrus wants Louisville and Miami is off the board for the Belk because they prefer the TaxSlayer Bowl.

Its basically:

4 teams for Citrus, RA, TaxSlayer (Miami, Lou, Pitt, VT).

UNC and GT, mostly due to poor traveling fanbases will join a "leftover" from that first group in the Belk, Sun, and Pinstripe. Pitt to the Pinstripe WOULD seem like a no-brainer but there is thought that the Pinstripe wouldn't take Pitt and would take GT (or UNC) instead.


Switching gears, he also said the ACC will continue to look at their divisional setup, potentially either eliminating the annual crossover game by realigning divisions so you are in the same division with your rivals......or eliminating divisions and having the Top 2 teams play for the championship, but the NCAA recently ruled against that, saying you had to play a round robin so I don't know why they would look at that again.

If you realign the divisions, you dont have much wiggle room because of UNC. They have long-standing rivalry games with Duke, NCSU, and UVa. UNC-UVa's is the South's oldest rivalry and both schools would want to play every year. But, if OU/Neb can get split, so can UNC and UVa I guess.

The most interesting divisional idea that Teel threw out there was having all the "central teams" together (schools from VA, NC,SC) and having the 4 northern-most (Pitt, Syr, BC, Lou) join the 3 southern-most (GT, Miami, FSU). You can get an FSU-Clem champ game but you'd only get in the regular season about once every 3 years. Clemson would also lose their annual game with nearby GT. There's really no good way to do it.
 
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He said its RA or Belk for VT. Now, this was Tuesday so I dont know if kt was before or after the CFP show and if FSU to the Orange had any affect on that.

David Hale saying VT to the Citrus is worst-case for Pitt because it leaves Louisville and Lamar Jackson for the RA and it might be difficult for the RA to do a Backyard Brawl instead of picking the Heisman winner.

I am confused as to why there isnt any smoke at all about a Florida-Miami Citrus Bowl. That seems like a no-brainer. Miami AD was quoted this week as saying he expects to be in Jacksonville or Orlando (doesn't say which Orlando bowl) but its amazing to me that NOBODY is talking about a potential UF-UM game in Orlando. Florida WAS there last year so maybe they dont want to go twice in a row but for a rivalry game like that, I thought they'd go for it.

For Pitt, best-case scenario is for Louisville to go to the Citrus. I think its very unlikely that VT goes to the RA to play 2 straight games vs WVU when they can play a respectable SEC team in Charlotte.

Louisville and Miami are the wildcards for Pitt. Both can get either Orlando bowl.

For Pitt, you have to hope the Citrus wants Louisville and Miami is off the board for the Belk because they prefer the TaxSlayer Bowl.

Its basically:

4 teams for Citrus, RA, TaxSlayer (Miami, Lou, Pitt, VT).

UNC and GT, mostly due to poor traveling fanbases will join a "leftover" from that first group in the Belk, Sun, and Pinstripe. Pitt to the Pinstripe WOULD seem like a no-brainer but there is thought that the Pinstripe wouldn't take Pitt and would take GT (or UNC) instead.


Switching gears, he also said the ACC will continue to look at their divisional setup, potentially either eliminating the annual crossover game by realigning divisions so you are in the same division with your rivals......or eliminating divisions and having the Top 2 teams play for the championship, but the NCAA recently ruled against that, saying you had to play a round robin so I don't know why they would look at that again.

If you realign the divisions, you dont have much wiggle room because of UNC. They have long-standing rivalry games with Duke, NCSU, and UVa. UNC-UVa's is the South's oldest rivalry and both schools would want to play every year. But, if OU/Neb can get split, so can UNC and UVa I guess.

The most interesting divisional idea that Teel threw out there was having all the "central teams" together (schools from VA, NC,SC) and having the 4 northern-most (Pitt, Syr, BC, Lou) join the 3 southern-most (GT, Miami, FSU). You can get an FSU-Clem champ game but you'd only get in the regular season about once every 3 years. Clemson would also lose their annual game with nearby GT. There's really no good way to do it.
Thanks SMF, you always provide Football Content and create good discussion on the Lair, many can agree or disagree, but I appreciate reading them even though i don't respond to all of them.

I like the Idea up for Discussion for the ACC realignments but the CFB Playoff Committee has to add 8 Teams to the Playoff Bowls and then let the conferences align anyway they want to determine their Champion that will represent the Power 5 Conferences and fight over the next 3 Entries. Including allowing the Big-12 to have a Champ Game anyway they want too.

It is so simple for the future and they made it so complicated today.
 
Yeah seems the only way to do it now is realign divisions-
But the current if clem wins has gotten acc in the playoff 4 years in a row.
But the southern teams really don't care about increasing rotations.
So I highly doubt it
 
How it should be. No crossover games. Then you'll play every team twice in 7 years instead of twice in 12. Sorted by this year's standings.

ACC Central

Clemson
Virginia Tech
UNC
NC State
Wake Forest
Duke
Virginia

ACC Metro
Florida State
Louisville
Miami
Pitt
Georgia Tech
BC
Syracuse
 
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How it should be. No crossover games. Then you'll play every team twice in 7 years instead of twice in 12. Sorted by this year's standings.

ACC Rural

Clemson
Virginia Tech
UNC
NC State
Wake Forest
Duke
Virginia

ACC Metro
Florida State
Louisville
Miami
Pitt
Georgia Tech
BC
Syracuse
 
Florida wants no part of a rivalry with Miami so if Florida was presented that option they would decline. Now Florida has a new AD but Foley wanted no part of Miami.
 
How it should be. No crossover games. Then you'll play every team twice in 7 years instead of twice in 12. Sorted by this year's standings.

ACC Central

Clemson
Virginia Tech
UNC
NC State
Wake Forest
Duke
Virginia

ACC Metro
Florida State
Louisville
Miami
Pitt
Georgia Tech
BC
Syracuse
 
Other problem with this is that it is almost old Big East vs old ACC, and that could cause unforseen problems. Need integration deployment.
 
Other problem with this is that it is almost old Big East vs old ACC, and that could cause unforseen problems. Need integration deployment.

That might be kinda cool though. 6 of the original ACC 8 (pre-FSU) would be in the "Central." The Metro would have 5 former Big East teams plus the 2 other "newest" ACC teams (FSU 1991, GT 1979).

The 2 distance between the northern-most (UVa) and southern-most Central team (Clemson) is only 400 miles making it by fsr the most geographicly-centric P5 division. It would be old-school ACC and if the Championship game is moved back to Charlotte, their champ is guaranteed to sell a lot of tickets.
 
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