Texas Covid threat now severe
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What I want to say is my freaking life isnt great either but I dont expect anyone to help me.
I have to help myself.
I have to help myself.
It’s been known for 3 months
Unfortunately - our ppe production never stepped up or was led -
As surgical masks are better than cloth masks .
They are way overstated
Mostly because cops created conflicts and then lied to justify it
weirdly - once police were told to stand back - reported violence disappeared
back on point -
Masks worked to mitigate spread
Ehhhhhhh. That last sentence is questionable.
My wife’s service had to draw a hard line in the sand that they wouldn’t enter the rooms for a code stroke until they got N95 masks. They’d just run them from outside the room.
They had 4 different people on their service test positive for COVID after only being given surgical masks by the ER team and then getting coughed on by COVID-positive stroke patients. Given the risk of spread, they couldn’t deal with that level of risk of infection.
Surgical and cloth masks are basically the same. Not much protection from COVID, good at protecting others from you. We both wear FIGS masks with filters inserted. It’s not perfect but those are perfectly fine cloth masks.
Of course a mask can be lifted. But that's my point.
Regardless I am on the record as being pro-mask. But I also think this virus and the numbers require context. I get those hospitalized and deaths. That is undisputed. As are the demographics of that group (along with outliers).
But I also think we should keep in mind this virus exists and will exist - so who is testing positive? Are they asymptomatic or self limiting? Just because someone tests positive does not mean anything without context.
This virus WILL spread. No solution is perfect. IMHO it's all about protecting those most vulnerable and allowing others to resume daily activities with caution.
The Medical Center is admitting adults into Children’s Hospital to make more room but yes Steve the Pirate actually knows what is going on because his one eye can see through the BS.
The year was 1918....
World War I was in full force….
Number of Deaths: 20 Million
Then the Spanish Flu….
Confirmed cases: 500 Million
Number of deaths: 50 Million
We can get through this…. Keep positive... Don't panic or go overboard... Be brave... Many have come before us with a lot more obstacles and prevailed. We can't hide under our beds....We have to get out there and live, but be cautious!
Just a couple of years away from full on Muslim head coverings.
Just announced: 90 new COVID cases in Allegheny County. To this date, this is the highest one-day surge.
Of course, this had to be expected. When people started socializing again and not taking recommended precautions, it had to get worse before it gets better.
Of course, this had to be expected. When people started socializing again and not taking recommended precautions, it had to get worse before it gets better.
Not sure where you get your numbers but I've linked the official site for Allegheny County. The highest spike was 40 on 6/23. There was 20 on 6/24 and 9 on 6/25.
And again testing positive needs context. Are they exhibiting symptoms? Is it self-limiting? Are they hospitalized? The reality is there are a lot of people out there who would test positive but not even know. Just because there is a spike doesn't necessarily mean anything without this context.
https://www.alleghenycounty.us/Health-Department/resources/COVID-19/Covid-19.aspx
An increase isn’t good in any context with maybe the exception if there is lag reporting which would require some adjustment/context. But overall the more people that are positive the more dangerous it becomes. Period.
It seems that the spread is now has moved into the younger population. Which makes sense with things opening up. So for them the death and hospitalization rates will be lower. But it’s never good for the numbers to rise. Of course we knew they would rise and it’s not out of control. But with how contagious this is it goes up pretty quickly.
People who vacation in Florida and contract covid should be made to wear shirts that say “I went to Florida for vacation and all I brought back was this lousy Covid.”
Obviously we'd like it to just go away but without a vaccine, the obvious course is to protect those most vulnerable. If you are in this group or are uncomfortable about it, Iimit all activities and really stay home as much as possible.
But for those like my children they will proceed with their lives being respectful, wearing masks, practicing good hygiene, etc. They very well may catch it but the odds are greatly in their favor that they will be asymptomatic or self-limiting. There is no reason for them to quarantine.
And again saying "the spread" means NOTHING without context. Of course people are going to catch this! It's out there and not going away - no one has natural antibodies for it. And the more people who are tested means more people will be found to be positive.
It’s not going away. Protect the vulnerable. Repeat. No kidding. Those are things even the most opposites among us agree on.
And it’s not just the increased testing. That’s Trump’s (and others) stupid and incorrect talking point. The percentage positive is going up in a lot of places but I don’t know what it is here in Allegheny County. Florida is on the same track as NYC.
And the spread needs context in some regards so maybe I wasn’t clear enough. My point is that the more people that have it the more dangerous it becomes. Even assuming people isolate after a positive diagnosis there is still a long period where they can unknowingly be spreaders. That doesn’t need context.
To be fair it does in some regards. The age groups matter in terms of potential death and hospitalization rates. But like I said the more infected, the more dangerous it is for the community.
Opinion based on media history:
If Biden were in office, these numbers would be:
A. Suppressed
B. Presented with a more positive spin.
C. Presented with all the data.
Examples:
"Of the 9,000 new cases, 5% needed hospitalization, of that number, only 1% resulted in death. All of the deaths were people 60 years of age or older"
"Covid cases have increased in recent weeks. However, the increase was expected due to the increase in testing. Many people may have had the virus for weeks and had very few symptoms if any."
"The CDC has stopped the practice of counting patients that have died with the virus as the cause of death. They are now counting the actual cause of death"
"Now that Joe Biden has been swore into office, will the covid numbers decrease? With us to discuss this possiblity is congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez"
If Biden were in office, these numbers would be:
A. Suppressed
B. Presented with a more positive spin.
C. Presented with all the data.
Examples:
"Of the 9,000 new cases, 5% needed hospitalization, of that number, only 1% resulted in death. All of the deaths were people 60 years of age or older"
"Covid cases have increased in recent weeks. However, the increase was expected due to the increase in testing. Many people may have had the virus for weeks and had very few symptoms if any."
"The CDC has stopped the practice of counting patients that have died with the virus as the cause of death. They are now counting the actual cause of death"
"Now that Joe Biden has been swore into office, will the covid numbers decrease? With us to discuss this possiblity is congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez"
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I get the latest numbers from the CBS-Pittsburgh app.
I interpret the spike as meaning that these people who tested positive have gotten sick enough to be seen by professionals, so they got tested - leading to the stats.
What does a spike mean to you? To me, it means that there are more people out there spreading the virus.
Since no one knows how they themselves might react to the virus - until they themselves contract it - it should behoove everyone to do whatever it takes to not come into contact with it. (Personally, I'm alleged to be more "at risk" because I'm 60+ and have an A+ blood type.)
The policies of Europe, Australia, and New Zealand were much stricter than the US, and they seemed to have gotten a good grasp on it. Maybe it's time that we look at what they did differently and emulate it, instead of our nation acting like a bunch of smug know-it-all Americans...?
Of the 90 new cases reported today, 38 of them are people between 19-24 and 31 are people between 25-49. So 69 out of 90 between 19-49.
Hey! Young people! Start wearing masks! Start social distancing!
Hey! Young people! Start wearing masks! Start social distancing!
Those numbers make perfect sense, given that this is the age group most likely to be pushing the boundaries of socializing and being out 'n about.
The good news is that they'll (hopefully) have milder symptoms and respond with a quicker, more complete recovery. The bad news is that they could be spreading it to other people who may not be so fortunate.
But meanwhile, there's this:
https://www.medscape.com/viewarticl...t_wir&uac=81922SG&spon=17&impID=2436312&faf=1
No worries. I'm sure none of those people have parents or spouses or kids or grandparents or coworkers or anything like that.
Huh - still not being reported on their actual website. Not sure why.
https://www.alleghenycounty.us/Health-Department/resources/COVID-19/Covid-19.aspx
The pittsburgh zoo two weekends ago was enough for us to be very concerned
We love the zoo and can literally walk to it
But told my son we will only go on weekdays when it’s less crowded
It was really disturbing to total disregard most had .
I was someplace a week or two ago where there were maybe ten people total there including the two people working there, and me and one woman were the only people in the whole place wearing masks. I got out of there as quickly as I could.
Takeaway? People are stupid.
