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fell flat on his face..............Yeah he was under pressure and most QBs wont play well in that sitaution but he flat out quit on his team..........made no attempt to fall on the ball whe the game was on the line then acted like a two year old after the game...

He might be the most talented QB in the NFL but he's a sore loser. Gotta say I thoroughl enjoyed watching him get beat up all night...........almost as much as watching Brady get beat.

Easy to be the class clown when youre winning but how you act when the chips are down reveals your tru character
 
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fell flat on his face..............Yeah he was under pressure and most QBs wont play well in that sitaution but he flat out quit on his team..........made no attempt to fall on the ball whe the game was on the line then acted like a two year old after the game...

He might be the most talented QB in the NFL but he's a sore loser. Gotta say I thoroughl enjoyed watching him get beat up all night...........almost as much as watching Brady get beat.

Easy to be the class clown when youre winning but how you act when the chips are down reveals your tru character
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Great defense trumps everything---he did fail in the game and after
 
TD_6082 said:
He's a little immature, but I think Cam is basically a good guy.
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Agree. The ridicule he takes is ridiculous. He really choked big time yesterday, although his O-Line gets a sure F grade for that performance.
 
Jeffburgh said:
Yeah, just a longer learning/maturing curve with the guy in some ways ...
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He's taking a lot of "heat" today from ex NFLers + others. Someone should advise him to move along the learning curve a bit faster. Lots of money to be lost if a player exhibits bad behavior. Bing ( like google) Cam Newton bad behavior and you'll see quite a few incidents over the past few years that have angered some of his teammates. The hood was a nice fashion statement but maybe he was cold.
 
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BuffetParrothead said:
He's taking a lot of "heat" today from ex NFLers + others. Someone should advise him to move along the learning curve a bit faster. Lots of money to be lost if a player exhibits bad behavior. Bing ( like google) Cam Newton bad behavior and you'll see quite a few incidents over the past few years that have angered some of his teammates. The hood was a nice fashion statement but maybe he was cold.
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Not saying it is unfounded, he puts himself out with a lot of bravado and "swag" so he opens himself up to it.
 
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Pittx9 said:
Agree. The ridicule he takes is ridiculous. He really choked big time yesterday, although his O-Line gets a sure F grade for that performance.
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tends to happen to guys who give up by not diving for get-able loose footballs with the look of them having kryptonite to his superman persona and act like 10 years olds in during their post game press obligations...
 
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tends to happen to guys who give up by not diving for get-able loose footballs with the look of them having kryptonite to his superman persona and act like 10 years olds in during their post game press obligations...
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Carolina never had a chance last night. The Denver D was like a pack of wild dogs playing at warp speed. The DBs for both teams were allowed to get away with absolute murder. Not sure about the officiating there.

Cam really tarnished his image by refusing to get his jersey dirty and go after that fumble. That said a lot about him. Only way he'll ever live that down is to go out and win a SB.

On a side note, Denver CB Talib is a real punk. Not the first time he's revealed it, but what an a$$hole. I'd like to see someone lay him out for the long count some time.
 
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Cam does a lot for the Charlotte community, so I'll cut him some slack. He absolutely didn't handle himself well after the game.

However, he wasn't arrested for DUI, he didn't beat his girlfriend, he didn't get into a fight with parking attendent at 3:00 AM at a strip club... It seems we tolerate those things better than a young adult acting immature...
 
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thebadby2 said:
Carolina never had a chance last night. The Denver D was like a pack of wild dogs playing at warp speed. The DBs for both teams were allowed to get away with absolute murder. Not sure about the officiating there.

Cam really tarnished his image by refusing to get his jersey dirty and go after that fumble. That said a lot about him. Only way he'll ever live that down is to go out and win a SB.

On a side note, Denver CB Talib is a real punk. Not the first time he's revealed it, but what an a$$hole. I'd like to see someone lay him out for the long count some time.
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Not going for that fumble looked really bad. I also think Ted (run out of bounds) Ginn, Jr. didn't make himself look very good.
 
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burgerczar said:
Cam does a lot for the Charlotte community, so I'll cut him some slack. He absolutely didn't handle himself well after the game.

However, he wasn't arrested for DUI, he didn't beat his girlfriend, he didn't get into a fight with parking attendent at 3:00 AM at a strip club... It seems we tolerate those things better than a young adult acting immature...
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Yes its a good thing that Newton didn't do any of those things but that's not the point. He was the starting QB in Superbowl 50. Better behavior would have been to his benefit.
I disagree with you about tolerating Manziel's antics. He's critized constantly and should be but he didn't play last night Newton did.
In my opinion he's finished or almost finished in the NFL. No team will tolerate a career of that stuff although Pac Adam Jones survived somehow.
 
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pittbb80 said:
fell flat on his face..............Yeah he was under pressure and most QBs wont play well in that sitaution but he flat out quit on his team..........made no attempt to fall on the ball whe the game was on the line then acted like a two year old after the game...

He might be the most talented QB in the NFL but he's a sore loser. Gotta say I thoroughl enjoyed watching him get beat up all night...........almost as much as watching Brady get beat.

Easy to be the class clown when youre winning but how you act when the chips are down reveals your tru character
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I don't consider him the face of the NFL. And the Panthers as a team fell flat on their faces. Yes, Newton looked bad but I am crediting Denver's defense with that one. Super performance for that unit.
 
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burgerczar said:
Cam does a lot for the Charlotte community, so I'll cut him some slack. He absolutely didn't handle himself well after the game.

However, he wasn't arrested for DUI, he didn't beat his girlfriend, he didn't get into a fight with parking attendent at 3:00 AM at a strip club... It seems we tolerate those things better than a young adult acting immature...
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Not the point. The point is he painted himself as a prima donna pu$$y for not going after that absolutely critical fumble right in front of his feet--he actually backed away from it--and then acted like a whiny little kid after the loss. His sideline reaction after Denver converted his fumble into a TD was pathetic as well.

The point is is he changed a lot of peoples' impressions of him as a player and a man last night. Only way he fixes that is to go out and win the big one.
 
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I had no opinion of him one way or the other until he pansied out and didn't go after that fumble. All his talk and bravado. And the Beats commercial. And he PUNKS OUT when the game was still in reach. Good luck being a leader for your team after that, much less the face of the NFL.
 
Even with all of the turnovers, Carolina was in that game late. If Cam was guilty of anything it was trying to do too much (forced pass, holding the ball too long).

He needs to grow up. Don't mind the swagger but you have to own a loss too.
 
SoufOaklin4Life said:
He's an idiot who has been given a free pass for years.
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I don't agree with that at all. Not sure what your basis is for that statement. But that shameless shilling last night definitely showed his colors. He should be ashamed of himself--all the way to the bank. And I love the Budweiser public retort: "Gee thanks for the pub Peyton, we had no idea that was coming." As Don King would say, only in America.
 
pittdan77 said:
Even with all of the turnovers, Carolina was in that game late. If Cam was guilty of anything it was trying to do too much (forced pass, holding the ball too long).

He needs to grow up. Don't mind the swagger but you have to own a loss too.
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Tried to do too much right up to the point where he refused to do the absolute minimum required of him. The overwhelming majority of people who have ever played even backyard football would have dove for that loose fumble instinctively without even thinking about it, even if it was a sandlot game. Against his instincts, in the biggest game of his life, at a critical moment, Cam visibly bailed away from his own fumble. There is no sugar coating that act.

Holding the ball too long over and over instead of cutting it loose isn't trying to do too much. It's simply holding the ball too long. The coverage was excellent but at some point the QB has to make his decision and let it rip. Holding the ball too long against a good NFL pass rush is not an option.
 
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fell flat on his face..............Yeah he was under pressure and most QBs wont play well in that sitaution but he flat out quit on his team..........made no attempt to fall on the ball whe the game was on the line then acted like a two year old after the game...

He might be the most talented QB in the NFL but he's a sore loser. Gotta say I thoroughl enjoyed watching him get beat up all night...........almost as much as watching Brady get beat.

Easy to be the class clown when youre winning but how you act when the chips are down reveals your tru character
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He is a flat out child.
 
SoufOaklin4Life said:
Cam should shill for Budweiser on national t.v. Or talk about getting drunk over and over.

Like a class act should.
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The Budweiser reference and the comment about drinking a lot of beers after the game were real head scratchers and, in my mind, totally out of character for Manning. And to be fair, the reason he repeated the Budweiser and beer drinking comments over again is because Jim Nantz asked him to repeat what he said to Tracy Wolfson because it couldn’t be heard by the people in the stands.

Say what you want about his ability to play well in big games or the fact that the Manning’s have become the First Family of the NFL, but to question the man’s class or character because of two atypical comments is rather unfair.

Before condemning him, I would suggest examining his complete body of work when it comes to behavior. Maybe I missed it in this thread but I didn’t see any reference to his actions (within 90 seconds of the ones he’s being skewered over in this thread) when someone put a Super Bowl Champion hat on his head during the Wolfson interview and he took it off when congratulated by Cam Newton and then again when Ron Rivera approached him. To be that aware of the moment to show that degree of sportsmanship by not appearing to rub it in their faces speaks volumes about his character.

I am by no means a Peyton Manning apologist but I am a fan of athletes with off-field behavior as stellar as their on-field performance. With so many Pacman Jones’ in the NFL and all of their dreadful on and off field behavior, I think there are certainly more deserving targets for contempt than Peyton Manning.
 
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He's an idiot who has been given a free pass for years.
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Probably should have hid under a hood mumbling nearly in audibly
And before that played scared...
And lost !
Yeah that's what Manning should have done ..........
 
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Peyton Manning is the best QB in the history of the NFL. Apologies to Marino of course..
 
Question (one I know the answer to already). Why does Manning get a free pass but posters here are excoriating Cam?

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Peyton Manning didn't shake hands with New Orleans Saints players after his Indianapolis Colts lost 31-17 in Super Bowl XLIV. Apparently some think this is a sign of poor sportsmanship from the NFL's greatest player. It's not.

Walking off the field without congratulating Drew Brees may go against our misguided notion of what sportsmanship should be, but it wasn't at all disrespectful or bitter. It shows how much Peyton Manning wanted to win the game. And who can argue about that?
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Ski11585 said:
Question (one I know the answer to already). Why does Manning get a free pass but posters here are excoriating Cam?

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because we are racist. I do hate the apologists for poor sportsmanship though, blaming their unquenchable desire to win. Heard it with Lebron after he acted like a baby too. " Oh, it's ok, he really wanted to win, cant blame him." Like these guys are the only ones that wanted to win and are competitors and past athletes aren't. There is good sportsmanship and poor sportsmanship, spare me the excuses. Cam is a baby and despite Manning's skin color, if he acted like this, he was a baby too..
 
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because we are racist. I do hate the apologists for poor sportsmanship though, blaming their unquenchable desire to win. Heard it with Lebron after he acted like a baby too. " Oh, it's ok, he really wanted to win, cant blame him." Like these guys are the only ones that wanted to win and are competitors and past athletes aren't. There is good sportsmanship and poor sportsmanship, spare me the excuses. Cam is a baby and despite Manning's skin color, if he acted like this, he was a baby too..
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Yes. I agree. I think athletes are 100% entitled to get pissed off after a championship loss and act like a baby. But I definitely do think cultural factors are at play when we assess said poor sportsmanship.
 
Ski11585 said:
Yes. I agree. I think athletes are 100% entitled to get pissed off after a championship loss and act like a baby. But I definitely do think cultural factors are at play when we assess said poor sportsmanship.
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Please elaborate on this ski, interested in what you mean
 
I just read that NFL players aren't allowed to endorse alcohol.. WHAT?? The nfl can makes tens of millions off of beer sales and selling air time to Budweiser, the rights for Miller Lite to be the official beer of the NFL but players cant endorse alcohol? LOL, honestly cant think of anything more hyprocritical than this.
 
SoufOaklin4Life said:
Cam should shill for Budweiser on national t.v. Or talk about getting drunk over and over.

Like a class act should.
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guy likes bud...so do I. Said it for free. I don't recall his saying he was going to get drunk. If he did, so what, so would have I. Not sure how that shows a lack of class. Drinking alcoholic beverages in celebration, why I'm appalled. Guessing if he would have lost he would have shown up at the presser in a suit and tie and humbly answered questions instead of acting like a spoiled ten year old...
 
Ski11585 said:
Question (one I know the answer to already). Why does Manning get a free pass but posters here are excoriating Cam?

Link for historical fun!
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Cam's act following the game might have been better received if he had given it his all to win, left it all on the field. Instead, he deliberately failed to dive on his own fumble at the most critical moment of the game. To me, that selfish, cowardly and deliberate act demonstrated that he's not just a sore loser, which is excusable, he's just a loser--period.
 
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guy likes bud...so do I. Said it for free. I don't recall his saying he was going to get drunk. If he did, so what, so would have I. Not sure how that shows a lack of class. Drinking alcoholic beverages in celebration, why I'm appalled. Guessing if he would have lost he would have shown up at the presser in a suit and tie and humbly answered questions instead of acting like a spoiled ten year old...
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Manning's shout out to Bud is important because of the hypocritical stance the NFL has towards alcohol endorsements. The league can bring in money from beer advertisements, but players aren't allowed to advertise for alcohol. So Manning, who has a stake in Bud, is skirting around some issues here.

thebadby2 said:
Cam's act following the game might have been better received if he had given it his all to win, left it all on the field. Instead, he deliberately failed to dive on his own fumble at the most critical moment of the game. To me, that selfish, cowardly and deliberate act demonstrated that he's not just a sore loser, which is excusable, he's just a loser--period.
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I have no problem with folks getting on Cam's case for not going after the fumble, it's all the other stuff I think is problematic.
 
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Manning's shout out to Bud is important because of the hypocritical stance the NFL has towards alcohol endorsements. The league can bring in money from beer advertisements, but players aren't allowed to advertise for alcohol. So Manning, who has a stake in Bud, is skirting around some issues here.



I have no problem with folks getting on Cam's case for not going after the fumble, it's all the other stuff I think is problematic.
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You mean that he pulled his hood on and stormed out of the post game press conference???
That's a first! Most players show up to that presser with a jacket and tie, address the media, and answer questions! Ok you lost and you were part of the loss so be a big guy and own it!
That's problematic!
 
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